whenever I open a file with kate, it uses as much as 25% cpu, but usually hovers around 15-13% usage.I have to kill kate in system monitor if I want it to stop running. my power consumption also jumps from 6 watts to 18.
kate version 22.04.3-1
has kate always used this much cpu?
let me know what other information I need to include
thank you for your time
Have you checked for errors by launching it from the terminal?
That doesn’t tell much without knowing what kind of CPU you use.
Hi @jake3,
I’ve just checked, and Kate uses 0.0% of my CPU. So I think it’s one of two reasons, or a combination of the two:
Which one? 
I get no errors when launching from terminal, and the cpu I have is a intel i7-1165g7 I have turbo turned on in bios, its a 4 core processor, runs at 4.70 Ghs max. I can run other things like games with not super intensive graphics, like minecraft and tabletop simulator at 60 fps without needing to turn down graphics settings. as far as I can remember, kate has never used this much resources before. maybe I was just not paying attention, but it is hard not to notice my fans ramping dramatically, and my battery level decreasing far faster than it was a moment ago
If you just let Kate sit their idle without doing anything, does she get lonely?
If you just let Kate sit their idle without doing anything, does the CPU still hover around 15%?
Does the increased CPU activity remain, even after much time has passed without using Kate? Even if Kate is minimized?
What if you temporarily disable Kwin’s compositor? Same behavior?
What GPU is this?
Are you using a particular theme or one of the standard ones shipped with Manjaro KDE?
Did you test this on a live USB of the latest Manjaro ISO? (To rule out a persistent user setting.)
(Posting more complete system information can help as well.)
As an aside, I personally would disable Intel’s “Turbo Boost” feature. It’s more of a sales gimmick than useful for typical desktop/laptop home user. Even when it’s “enabled” and supported, it doesn’t really confer much benefit except for very specific use-cases.
is with all files or some ?
kate can use some plugins …
for exemple LSP can take a lot of resources
I suppose a plugin
letting kate Idle brings the cpu usage down to a normal level
forcing block compositor in special window settings immediately fixes the issue.
No GPU, only integrated graphics
my theme is brise dark lightly
16 gig ram, 500 gb ssd, framework laptop
turbo came pre-enabled on the device when I got it and I haven’t touched it since
Can you post your system info in here?
My hunch is removing xf86-video-intel, clearing any extraneous configs under /etc/X11, and finally rebooting might help.
output from inxi -v7azy:
System:
Kernel: 5.18.17-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.1.1
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.18-x86_64
root=UUID=f6898bf0-f23e-4f8c-8f59-2b16eaa17936 rw
resume=UUID=f6898bf0-f23e-4f8c-8f59-2b16eaa17936 resume_offset=11597824
quiet apparmor=1 security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.24.6 tk: Qt v: 5.15.5 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 1 dm: SDDM
Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Framework product: Laptop v: AB
serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: Framework model: FRANBMCP0B v: AB serial: <superuser required>
UEFI: INSYDE v: 03.10 date: 07/19/2022
Battery:
ID-1: BAT1 charge: 46.6 Wh (100.0%) condition: 46.6/55.0 Wh (84.8%)
volts: 17.4 min: 15.4 model: NVT Framewo type: Li-ion serial: <filter>
status: discharging cycles: 51
Memory:
RAM: total: 15.42 GiB used: 9.65 GiB (62.6%)
RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges
required.
CPU:
Info: model: 11th Gen Intel Core i7-1165G7 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
arch: Tiger Lake gen: core 11 built: 2020 process: Intel 10nm family: 6
model-id: 0x8C (140) stepping: 1 microcode: 0xA4
Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache:
L1: 320 KiB desc: d-4x48 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 5 MiB desc: 4x1.2 MiB
L3: 12 MiB desc: 1x12 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 939 high: 1091 min/max: 400/4700 scaling:
driver: intel_pstate governor: powersave cores: 1: 532 2: 1072 3: 1050
4: 622 5: 1047 6: 1091 7: 1087 8: 1011 bogomips: 44864
Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat
arch_capabilities arch_perfmon art avx avx2 avx512_bitalg avx512_vbmi2
avx512_vnni avx512_vp2intersect avx512_vpopcntdq avx512bw avx512cd
avx512dq avx512f avx512ifma avx512vbmi avx512vl bmi1 bmi2 bts cat_l2
cdp_l2 clflush clflushopt clwb cmov constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16
cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est f16c flexpriority
flush_l1d fma fpu fsgsbase fsrm fxsr gfni ht hwp hwp_act_window hwp_epp
hwp_notify hwp_pkg_req ibpb ibrs ibrs_enhanced ibt ida intel_pt invpcid
invpcid_single lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe movdir64b
movdiri msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx ospke pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm
pdpe1gb pebs pge pku pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pts rdpid rdrand rdseed
rdt_a rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep sha_ni smap smep split_lock_detect ss ssbd
sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc
tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer tsc_known_freq umip vaes vme vmx vnmi
vpclmulqdq vpid x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr
Vulnerabilities:
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB
filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel TigerLake-LP GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] driver: i915 v: kernel
arch: Gen-12.1 process: Intel 10nm built: 2020-21 ports: active: eDP-1
empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, DP-4 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:9a49
class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.4 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.3
compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa
gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2256x1504 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 596x397mm (23.46x15.63")
s-diag: 716mm (28.19")
Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: BOE Display 0x095f built: 2019 res: 2256x1504
hz: 60 dpi: 201 gamma: 1.2 size: 285x190mm (11.22x7.48") diag: 343mm (13.5")
ratio: 3:2 modes: 2256x1504
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel Xe Graphics (TGL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 22.1.6
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Tiger Lake-LP Smart Sound Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel alternate: snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3
chip-ID: 8086:a0c8 class-ID: 0403
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.18.17-1-MANJARO running: yes
Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no
Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: yes
Sound Server-4: PipeWire v: 0.3.56 running: yes
Network:
Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX210/AX211/AX411 160MHz driver: iwlwifi v: kernel
pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: aa:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2725
class-ID: 0280
IF: wlp170s0 state: up mac: <filter>
IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
broadcast: <filter>
IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
IF-ID-1: ipv6leakintrf0 state: unknown speed: N/A duplex: N/A
mac: <filter>
IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: global
IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
IF-ID-2: proton0 state: unknown speed: 10 Mbps duplex: full mac: N/A
IP v4: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: global broadcast: <filter>
IP v6: <filter> virtual: stable-privacy scope: link
WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
bus-ID: 3-10:4 chip-ID: 8087:0032 class-ID: e001
Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: see --recommends
Logical:
Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 175.79 GiB (37.7%)
SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital
model: WDS500G3X0C-00SJG0 size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
rev: 111130WD temp: 49.9 C scheme: GPT
Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 465.46 GiB size: 457.09 GiB (98.20%) used: 175.79 GiB
(38.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 label: N/A
uuid: f6898bf0-f23e-4f8c-8f59-2b16eaa17936
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%) used: 292 KiB
(0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1 label: NO_LABEL
uuid: 85C4-F9C5
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 20 GiB used: 1.72 GiB (8.6%) priority: -2
file: /swapfile
Unmounted:
Message: No unmounted partitions found.
USB:
Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 1 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
Device-1: 2-1:5 info: Silicon Motion - Taiwan (formerly Feiya ) USB DISK
type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s
power: 504mA chip-ID: 090c:3350 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 12 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
Device-1: 3-4:6 info: Framework HDMI Expansion Card type: Billboard,HID
driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s
power: 100mA chip-ID: 32ac:0002 class-ID: 0300 serial: <filter>
Device-2: 3-9:3 info: Shenzhen Goodix USB2.0 MISC type: <vendor specific>
driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA
chip-ID: 27c6:609c class-ID: ef00 serial: <filter>
Device-3: 3-10:4 info: Intel AX210 Bluetooth type: Bluetooth driver: btusb
interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 8087:0032
class-ID: e001
Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 56.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 371 Uptime: 10h 19m wakeups: 11294 Init: systemd v: 251
default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.1.1 clang: 14.0.6
Packages: 1816 pacman: 1777 lib: 477 flatpak: 25 snap: 14 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9
default: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: yakuake inxi: 3.3.20
Remove the package xf86-video-intel
Make sure there are no custom configs under/etc/X11/ (or its subdirectories) that you might have created at one point. (You can leave alone the included defaults.)
Reboot.
I don’t think that fixed it, its still using 15% CPU
Does this happen with any other native KDE application besides Kate?
not as far as I can tell
I also tried reinstalling kate but no dice
Can you repeat this test, but with the standard default theme?
by test do you mean opening kate or do you mean rebooting after removing xf86-video-intel?
if the former, then no change
I literally wrote “Reboot” in my post…
no change
After changing the theme or after rebooting without xf86-video-intel? (Or both?)
well I did not add xf86-video-intel back after removing it the first time and I changed the theme and rebooted, so, both?
Then I would test this on a live USB session.
Or even create a new user account on your current system, log in with it, and then test this.
If it does not happen with the temporary new user account, then it points to a configuration/config file on your main user account.