The new feature I’d like to request is to create GUI integrating and grouping as many maintenance options as possible to Manjaro Setting Manager. In addition, this new feature could be integrated with Manjaro Notifier KDE Settings for notifications related to maintenance.
Text box could be used to show user current size of some temp files, buttons could be used to clear temp files, slide bars could be used to define max log size, or even define triggers to receive notifications when a threshold is reached, check box could be used to set witch option the user wants to monitor, and so on. GUI is a very important alternative for command lines, and we could benefit from the GUI grouping the must important maintenance subjects to keep our eyes on. As the first step, this GUI could be create with single option and growing up according to future releases and users feedback. For sue someone have better idea than me for UX.
Hard Disk Fragmentation (if applicable)
Browser Cache
Current Back-ups Size (monitor total size from time shift or other app)
Kernel end of Life
New features introduced after system updates that user must set manually (Example: KDE System Monitor backing in time 2021)
Note: At below thread related to new features for KDE introduced with system updates, philm said:
“We don’t change users installations and add new apps without their willing. Feel free to install the new applications on your own.”
But user can argue, how could I know about new feature if the system do not notify me? detailed documentation sometimes isn’t widely available and people sometimes may not have time or interest to read them.
This same concept could be carried over to the menu (i.e., XFCE Whisker Menu).
Most maintenance, it seems, once established, is automatic, and taken care of by anacron, cron or systemd timers. Most of the things I add are tools. I remapped the Super Key, so Super-S brings up XFCE System Settings.
My proposal is for Plasma KDE Desktop Environment. It can be extended for other DE.
The request is for Manjaro developers to design and implement this Feature Request regardless if user can do or not, in Linux all users can do anything if they have knowledge for it, but this thread is not focused on DIY.
Seems like a nice idea if anyone could support updates of such list at least for major features
You mean some button to clean it?
Some pointers for KSystemLog could be done but not sure in what context.
Pamac is in tray already, no reason to keep two versions of effectively the same function
Might be more appliable as a feature request for Baloo KCM.
Thank you! Overall I like your ideas and would ask you to share more in MCP discussion as I’m working on it now. Dashboard module looks like a perfect place to put some this functions.
Yes, it’s, but in my suggestion I was considering a GUI tool for maintenance related to the bulleted items. If you read the bullet stand alone you will understand a different thing and you did. They are grouped.
Going in detail about packages and updates, the maintenance GUI could be used to integrate the following command lines:
To clear the cache of packages that are no longer installed
$ sudo pacman -Sc
these are pretty aggressive options. especially the second one can ruin your system, if the next (i.e. not yet installed) version of an essential package is broken.
pacui uses more conservative means:
# remove all packages, which are not installed on this system, except the latest versions (this is a back up, in case somebody removes networkmanager)
sudo paccache -rvu -k 1
# remove all package versions, except the latest 3
sudo paccache -rv -k 3
I took those for instance, all the content needs to be discussed from developers for better integration with the system. Below you can find an image to better illustrate my suggestions. It’s a simple GUI, but the amount of contents and how to implement them, you guys know much better then me.
eh … because its a cheap gui, and most of the functions are poorly designed.
Well … thats my opinion …
As to why someone else hasnt used it … you would have to ask someone else
“manjaro setting mannager” : is for configuring you propose an application for something else : delete caches
For me, these graphical model options are only interesting for the disk space maniacs (a minimal BleachBit clone)
These are only personal choices and certainly not interesting for everyone (clear journald 1…3 ??? i have 3 ?)
packages : we have a timer, no reason to clear the cache. You delete it to save space ? so you have a problem and this “button” is not a perennial answer (best is to post here and not clear all days )
backup ?? no idea what you mean timeshift, other … btrfs or not , … an incremental backup takes very very little space and no reason to keep 36 backups - each backup type has its own system settings
journal logs : takes little space and no interest to enlarge ( to 1Go or more !?) - me: i limit in time and log level - too bad: it was the only thing that could interest me
I’ve never cleaned these files : journalctl --disk-usage > Archived and active journals take up 288.0M in the file system.
There’s a systemd timer pamac-cleancache that does this monthly.
OnCalendar=Sat *-*-1..7 15:00:00
See also: /etc/pamac.conf - KeepNumPackages (it’s also viewable via GUI)
Don’t forget about logrotate, too.
It’s nice to have a place to go, as described above, but don’t forget that it can all be automated too. And some of it already has (ie., pamac-cleancache).
Papajoke, you need to abstract, I can’t objectively point all Linux information precisely, so you can understand the numbers as a subgroup of the same journal or different journal.
Kernel LOG X.Org LOG
etc
And also for the same LOG I may wanna delete only the warnings and keep with Errors and Alerts.
Feel free to think out of the box
Saving space is very important, if you have Android Phone you will see that you have the ability to clear caches for all APP, if you use windows, you will see that windows explorer gives you option to clear a lot of different caches. If you may have old notebook or old PC you may also have disk space constrains, so yes, this is important and is not related to “disk space maniacs”, maybe you just have a lot of free space available in your system.
It’s important to mention adding this reply, to indicate that also PAMAC has one of my suggestions already implemented trough GUI, check the image below at bottom and you will find configuration for cache and a button to clean.
From my point of view, if manjaro developers are able to design and implement a central place with as many options as possible for maintenance in a GUI, it will be very useful.
