Some apps start with delay

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Note: prior to starting this text, I found (and read) Apps starts with delay after login.

It appears as a bit annoying that (even) some small apps like nautilus and gnome-text-editor appear only up to two seconds after selecting it (via trackpad). Well, today I recognize the small coloured circle that indicated business, so when I had seen this earlier, I’d know that the system is responding. Nevertheless…

Nautilus, invoked from the commandline, takes also up to two seconds to come up. When I close Nautilus, the prompt is not immediately visible - it reappears after 10-13 seconds. Within this time, when I start Nautilus from the application bar on the screen’s bottom, it appears immediately. When that time has passed, then it takes 1-2 seconds.

BTW: Nautilus from the commandline also says:

** Message: 20:27:49.172: Connecting to org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files

… which seem to suggest that Nautilus is installed as flatpak. But after inspection I see that it is just a normal repository install.

Gnome text editor: slow response seems to originate from library issues:

[martina@martina-notebook ~]$ LC_ALL=C gnome-text-editor
(gnome-text-editor:4632): libenchant-WARNING **: 20:46:50.745: broker.vala:159: Error loading plugin: libhspell.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
(gnome-text-editor:4632): libenchant-WARNING **: 20:46:50.746: broker.vala:159: Error loading plugin: libnuspell.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
(gnome-text-editor:4632): libenchant-WARNING **: 20:46:50.746: broker.vala:159: Error loading plugin: libaspell.so.15: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
(gnome-text-editor:4632): libenchant-WARNING **: 20:46:50.746: broker.vala:159: Error loading plugin: libvoikko.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[martina@martina-notebook ~]$

Possibly related information:

I’d suggest that the editor would show up immediately without these warnings.

I know that Wayland is not as mature as X11, but I’d not switch back to X11 because only Wayland supports screen scaling in smaller increments (in my case: 1.25, in Settings->screens).

System: Thinkbook T14 G7 ARP (AMD Ryzen 5:7xxx, 8GB RAM, 0.5 GB shared display memory, Manjaro up to this date)

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Welcome to the forum! :wave:

That’s issue is long fixed and never applied to GNOME.

That’s the Application ID. As you can see, it’s part of localsearch (previously tracker3-miners):

❯ sudo pacman -Fyx org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files
extra/localsearch 3.8.2-1 [installed: 3.8.2-2]
    usr/share/dbus-1/interfaces/org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files.Index.xml
    usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files.Control.service
    usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files.service
    usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files.gschema.xml
    usr/share/localsearch3/miners/org.freedesktop.Tracker3.Miner.Files.service

Nope. It’s just complaining because you don’t have optional language packages like enchant, aspell, nuspell or libvoikko installed.

Nothing from the terminal output you posted is related. Those are normal info / warning messages.

I can’t reproduce on three machines with both AMD and NVIDIA GPU’s using Wayland.

Please post your system info as outlined here:

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Yesterday I did try to install libaspell or libhspell (names as written in the error reports), but that resulted in an error. Therefore I gave up. It’s just your mentioning of these words without the prefixing lib that let me try it again - successfully (enchant was already installed).
I’m not sure whether it’s usual that arch names library packages without lib-prefix (then in contrast to Debian/Ubuntu packages).

The question now is: why are this libs not already part of the default Manjaro installation?

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Well, I intended to insert the output of nxi -zv8 into my profile but than it is warned that the 3,000 character count is exceeded. However I can’t imagine that it’s helpful to insert the output in the posting itself. I’ll do it now here (can be removed if it makes sense)

$ lsb_release -sirc
ManjaroLinux 25.0.0 Zetar
$ inxi -zv8
System:
  Kernel: 6.12.12-2-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.1
    clocksource: hpet avail: acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12-x86_64
    root=UUID=4ad50bf4-5d81-48bc-99ca-b098cfe6e553 rw quiet splash
    apparmor=1 security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: GNOME v: 47.4 tk: GTK v: 3.24.43 wm: gnome-shell
    tools: gsd-screensaver-proxy dm: GDM v: 47.0 Distro: Manjaro
    base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 21MV v: ThinkBook 14 G7 ARP
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 v: ThinkBook 14 G7 ARP
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0T76530 WIN
    serial: <superuser required> part-nu: LENOVO_MT_21MV_BU_idea_FM_ThinkBook
    14 G7 ARP uuid: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO v: P6CN17WW
    date: 04/18/2024
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 31.3 Wh (70.2%) condition: 44.6/45.0 Wh (99.1%)
    power: 5.3 W volts: 12.1 min: 11.5 model: Sunwoda L22D3PE0 type: Li-poly
    serial: <filter> status: discharging cycles: 39
Memory:
  System RAM: total: 8 GiB available: 6.33 GiB used: 3.85 GiB (60.7%)
  Message: For most reliable report, use superuser + dmidecode.
  Array-1: capacity: 64 GiB slots: 2 modules: 1 EC: None
    max-module-size: 32 GiB note: est.
  Device-1: Channel-A DIMM 0 type: no module installed
  Device-2: Channel-B DIMM 0 type: DDR5 detail: synchronous unbuffered
    (unregistered) size: 8 GiB speed: spec: 5600 MT/s actual: 4800 MT/s
    volts: note: check curr: 1 min: 1 max: 1 width (bits): data: 64 total: 64
    manufacturer: Samsung part-no: M425R1GB4PB0-CWMOL serial: <filter>
PCI Slots:
  Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 7535HS with Radeon Graphics bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Zen 3+ gen: 3 level: v3 note: check built: 2022
    process: TSMC n6 (7nm) family: 0x19 (25) model-id: 0x44 (68) stepping: 1
    microcode: 0xA404107
  Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 1 cores: 6 threads: 12 tpc: 2
    smt: enabled cache: L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB
    desc: 6x512 KiB L3: 16 MiB desc: 1x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1108 min/max: 400/4603 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: amd-pstate-epp governor: powersave cores: 1: 1108 2: 1108 3: 1108
    4: 1108 5: 1108 6: 1108 7: 1108 8: 1108 9: 1108 10: 1108 11: 1108
    12: 1108 bogomips: 79080
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1
    bmi2 bpext cat_l3 cdp_l3 clflush clflushopt clwb clzero cmov cmp_legacy
    constant_tsc cpb cppc cpuid cqm cqm_llc cqm_mbm_local cqm_mbm_total
    cqm_occup_llc cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de debug_swap decodeassists erms
    extapic extd_apicid f16c flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fsrm fxsr fxsr_opt
    ht hw_pstate ibpb ibrs ibs invpcid irperf lahf_lm lbrv lm mba mca mce
    misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor movbe msr mtrr mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl
    npt nrip_save nx ospke osvw overflow_recov pae pat pausefilter pclmulqdq
    pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_llc perfctr_nb pfthreshold pge pku pni
    popcnt pse pse36 rapl rdpid rdpru rdrand rdseed rdt_a rdtscp rep_good
    sep sha_ni skinit smap smca smep ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3
    stibp succor svm svm_lock syscall tce topoext tsc tsc_scale umip
    user_shstk v_spec_ctrl v_vmsave_vmload vaes vgif vmcb_clean vme vmmcall
    vpclmulqdq wbnoinvd wdt x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveerptr xsaveopt
    xsaves xtopology
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled
    via prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW;
    STIBP: always-on; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not
    affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Rembrandt [Radeon 680M]
    vendor: Lenovo driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 code: Navi-2x
    process: TSMC n7 (7nm) built: 2020-22 pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
    lanes: 16 ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, DP-4, DP-5,
    DP-6, HDMI-A-1, Writeback-1 bus-ID: 75:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:1681
    class-ID: 0300 temp: 25.0 C
  Device-2: Syntek Integrated Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 5-1:2 chip-ID: 174f:1820
    class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter>
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.15 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.5
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: gpu: amdgpu display-ID: 0
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: AU Optronics 0x20a7 built: 2022 res: 1920x1200
    dpi: 162 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.569 y: 0.341 green: x: 0.353 y: 0.569
    blue: x: 0.161 y: 0.110 white: x: 0.314 y: 0.329
    size: 301x188mm (11.85x7.4") diag: 355mm (14") ratio: 16:10
    modes: 1920x1200, 1920x1080, 1600x1200, 1680x1050, 1280x1024, 1440x900,
    1280x800, 1280x720, 1024x768, 800x600, 640x480
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi
    device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: kms_swrast surfaceless: drv: radeonsi
    wayland: drv: radeonsi x11: drv: radeonsi
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.3.4-arch1.1
    glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon 660M (radeonsi
    rembrandt LLVM 19.1.7 DRM 3.59 6.12.12-2-MANJARO) device-ID: 1002:1681
    memory: 500 MiB unified: no display-ID: :0.0
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo x11: xprop
Audio:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Rembrandt Radeon High
    Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 75:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1640
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor
    vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_pci_acp6x v: kernel alternate: snd_pci_acp3x,
    snd_rn_pci_acp3x, snd_pci_acp5x, snd_acp_pci, snd_rpl_pci_acp6x,
    snd_pci_ps, snd_sof_amd_renoir, snd_sof_amd_rembrandt,
    snd_sof_amd_vangogh, snd_sof_amd_acp63, snd_sof_amd_acp70 pcie: gen: 4
    speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 75:00.5 chip-ID: 1022:15e2
    class-ID: 0480
  Device-3: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio
    vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
    lanes: 16 bus-ID: 75:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.12.12-2-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off tools: N/A
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.2.7 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
    status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: Lenovo driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
    lanes: 1 port: 5000 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8852CE PCIe 802.11ax Wireless Network vendor: Lenovo
    driver: rtw89_8852ce v: kernel pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1
    port: 4000 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:c852 class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  Info: services: NetworkManager, systemd-timesyncd, wpa_supplicant
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Realtek Bluetooth Radio driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 1.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 3-3:2 chip-ID: 0bda:5852
    class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 6 state: up address: see --recommends
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 28.55 GiB (12.0%)
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD PC
    SN740 SDDPMQD-256G-1101 size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 73116001 temp: 20.9 C scheme: GPT
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 185.11 GiB size: 181.14 GiB (97.86%)
    used: 28.52 GiB (15.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5
    label: N/A uuid: 4ad50bf4-5d81-48bc-99ca-b098cfe6e553
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 260 MiB size: 256 MiB (98.46%)
    used: 36.2 MiB (14.2%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
    label: SYSTEM_DRV uuid: 2E21-9C0F
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 size: 16 MiB fs: <superuser required>
    label: N/A uuid: N/A
  ID-2: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3 size: 51.14 GiB fs: bitlocker
    label: N/A uuid: N/A
  ID-3: /dev/nvme0n1p4 maj-min: 259:4 size: 1.95 GiB fs: ntfs
    label: WINRE_DRV uuid: 0ED22317D2230297
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-3:2 info: Elan Micro ELAN:ARM-M4 type: <vendor specific>
    driver: N/A interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1
    mode: 1.1 power: 100mA chip-ID: 04f3:0c8c class-ID: 0000
  Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 3 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 3-3:2 info: Realtek Bluetooth Radio type: bluetooth
    driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 1.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1
    mode: 1.1 power: 500mA chip-ID: 0bda:5852 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 5-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-1:2 info: Syntek Integrated Camera type: video
    driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 5 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 500mA chip-ID: 174f:1820 class-ID: fe01
    serial: <filter>
  Hub-6: 6-0:1 info: Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub ports: N/A rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 7-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-8: 8-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 1 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-9: 9-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-10: 10-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 1 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 26.6 C mobo: 22.2 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 26.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 1302 pm: pacman pkgs: 1297 libs: 363
    tools: gnome-software,pamac,yay pm: flatpak pkgs: 5
  Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
    1: http://ftp.belnet.be/mirrors/manjaro/repos/stable/$repo/$arch
    2: https://mirror.futureweb.be/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
Processes:
  CPU top: 5 of 369
  1: cpu: 2.3% command: gnome-shell pid: 1050 mem: 463.0 MiB (7.1%)
  2: cpu: 1.4% command: vivaldi-bin pid: 8433 mem: 297.6 MiB (4.5%)
  3: cpu: 1.2% command: chromium pid: 11461 mem: 228.1 MiB (3.5%)
  4: cpu: 1.0% command: chromium pid: 11638 mem: 218.4 MiB (3.3%)
  5: cpu: 0.8% command: vivaldi-bin pid: 10714 mem: 244.6 MiB (3.7%)
  Memory top: 5 of 369
  1: mem: 787.5 MiB (12.1%) command: thunderbird pid: 8589 cpu: 0.3%
  2: mem: 463.0 MiB (7.1%) command: gnome-shell pid: 1050 cpu: 2.3%
  3: mem: 297.6 MiB (4.5%) command: vivaldi-bin pid: 8433 cpu: 1.4%
  4: mem: 293.4 MiB (4.5%) command: vivaldi-bin pid: 8388 cpu: 0.6%
  5: mem: 271.6 MiB (4.1%) command: vivaldi-bin pid: 8464 cpu: 0.3%
Info:
  Processes: 369 Power: uptime: 15h 8m states: freeze,mem,disk
    suspend: s2idle wakeups: 3 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot,
    suspend, test_resume image: 2.51 GiB services: gsd-power,
    power-profiles-daemon, upowerd Init: systemd v: 257 default: graphical
    tool: systemctl
  Compilers: gcc: 14.2.1 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.37 running-in: gnome-terminal
    inxi: 3.3.37
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This is indeed helpful. It tells us you have 8G of RAM and no swap; this can lead to issues with memory allocation, especially when using e.g. Firefox.

I’d at least create a swap file, if not a partition.

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Because they’re optional dependencies for packages like enchant. They are not required unless one wants spell checking features:

❯ pacman -Sii enchant | grep -A4 'Optional Deps'
Optional Deps   : aspell: for aspell based spell checking support
                  hspell: for hspell based spell checking support
                  hunspell: for hunspell based spell checking support
                  libvoikko: for libvoikko based spell checking support
                  nuspell: for nuspell based spell checking support
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Given the fact that numerous GUI-programs produce output on the shell if started from it, the lack of these libs is harmless. After having installed these, I didn’t see a quicker start.

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Hm, upon installation, I didn’t care about defining a swap (partition). Thanks for the hint. At 8 GB that makes sense, especially because the System sees only 6.3 GiB due to shared graphics memory.

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Anybody who can say anything about (a bit curious) Nautilus start delay as described? If anything is not clear, please complain :slight_smile: