Hi.
Well that. I read some links in the forum that seems to be that not, it is not possible.
But i ask to the chatgpt… for distros based in arch that support out of the box secure boot and mention “manjaro”… and i always use manjaro in my pc, but this is the first time that im installing dual boot…
So, there is out of the box secure boot?
Thanks
No. Manjaro does not support Secure Boot by default. It is possible to roll-your-own but that would require you to do your own research; basically, do it yourself.
There is a guide somewhere on the forum that explains one possible way to achieve it. I’ll post a link as soon as I find it. The guide is written by @linux-aarhus .
Perhaps it’s best not to rely on ChatGPT for serious information.
You might find the following article of interest considering that you wish to multiboot Manjaro and Windows:
Regards.
Yeah.
Thanks for the link.
I was looking at the arch documentation but seems maybe a little too complicated for me, more that i read something like “you can end with a brick”
So… im not sure.
If you do it wrong, maybe.
The long-and-short of it is - secure boot is supported in that you can use various methods to either use your own keys or a signed bootloader.
But short of doing those things - manually - then no, you will not be able to boot manjaro with Secure Boot enabled.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unified_Extensible_Firmware_Interface/Secure_Boot
that will be?
Section 3.2 in the link above
or, if you have another system like Debian, Ubuntu …
Their boot loader supports it - and could also boot Manjaro (I think).
https://wiki.debian.org/SecureBoot
oh, then maybe if support manjaro. I could install a little ubuntu server besides windows 11 and later manjaro… mmm i will ask in the ubuntu/debian forum.
Thanks!!
Edit: maybe later i could delete the ubuntu? mmmmm
oh, one more question.
If i disable Secure Boot and install Manjaro besides Windows 11.
If later i enable again Secure Boot, i could start windows 11?
Because maybe i could enter to the boot when i want to use windows and viceversa. I will probably be all the time in Manjaro. Windows is just for… games (and i dont play too much, almost nothing)
Thanks
With Rufus you can also disable (unofficial) Secure Boot and TPM on a Win11 install, how long that will works? I dont know…
If you, by out of the box, mean installer or ISO boot support, the answer is no.
Secure Boot is not secure as it does not secure anything.
What it is designed to do, is to verify if the given binary loader is signed by a certificate stored in NVRAM.
No: Manjaro does not implement secure boot
Yes: You can setup Verified (Secure) Boot on Manjaro
Read the following proof of concept article. Do note there is other ways to achieve the same goal, this is how I have done.
Rather not.
Because then it is that systems boot loader which also picks up Manjaro as in a dual boot scenario.
You’d need that system, and you’d need to boot it each time you change Manjaro’s boot configuration and probably each time a kernel is updated or a new one installed.
Not very practical.
… that is how I understand it
if we’re talking about the Bios setting,then i didn’t have to disable it on two motherboards in order to install Manjaro.
i also didn’t touch the TPM option; but i don’t recall how is it set out of the box.
chatgpt has no concept of veracity and is not aware of basic facts about Manjaro
UEFI - Install Guide - Manjaro Wiki
The following guide aims to install Manjaro on a machine with UEFI enabled, Secure boot disabled, and using GUID Partition Table (GPT) disk(s).
Linux users do not need a Microsoft gatekeeper
mmm i will avoid this. Thanks for the post but for what i read you can break the hardware… and this is the more expensive pc i buy… my GF will gonna kill me and i will hang up.
But:
Can i install besides Windows 11 and when im gonna use Manjaro i disable secure boot, and when i go to windows use again Secure Boot? or if i install manjaro that will break something in the secure boot, and will dont let me boot to windows again?
I will probably be all the time in Manjaro, so… just for the occasions, or that will not work?
Sorry for the delay in replying, but I very much doubt any actual hardware damage can occur:
As for secure boot, if you are happy to switch that in (U)EFI when you need to use Windows, I don’t see a problem with that. (Maybe Windows can be installed &/or used without SB?)
Cheers!
In closing:
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Manjaro does not support Microsoft’s implementation of Secure Boot and will be unbootable if it is enabled.
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Toggling Secure Boot via BIOS settings may be possible in some circumstances (depending on BIOS), though I imagine this might quickly become too cumbersome for sustained practice.
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The easiest and most effective way to manage multiple booting between Manjaro and Windows is to disable Secure Boot. Disabling Secure Boot should not damage a computer; if Secure Boot needs to be enabled again in the future, there is usually a simple way to restore the keys in BIOS. You can also bypass the Windows 11 Secure Boot requirement if Windows will not play nicely without Secure Boot.
I believe this thread has reached its natural conclusion.