Inxi -Fazy says pipewire is running, but I cannot delete it as Add/Remove says it isnt installed?

Not yet … Im still a linux noob and after formatting my machine approx 20 times last year every time a update happened in PopOs & broke the Amdgpu-pro dependencies ( bleeding long story) … I have a mass fear of updating just because. :frowning:

Would just updating my kernel really be enough to fix these issues?

Im half considering just downloading the lastest Iso and installing from scratch if Pipewire has already taken over … Would it be setup from the get go if I did that?

Forget about that inxi output. And forget about removing pipewire package. Why is this coming up every few days. Many things depend on pipewire even if it is not in use.

If you want to remove package x and 100 things depend on it, isn’t this a big enough clue by itself, that it most probably shouldn’t be removed?

How to know which audio server you are running?

pactl info

If you get Server Name: pulseaudio then you are using PulseAudio.
If you get Server Name: PulseAudio (on PipeWire 0.3.52) then you are using PipeWire.

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I just installed the latest release and I don’t remember pipewire being setup by default.

Can you do me a favour and post output of:

grep -m1 pipewire /var/log/pacman.log && stat /

You are kind of “advice-resistent”. Remove the aur/git pacages first (i.e.: you have both pipewire-alsa and pipewire-alsa-git). Remove that mess, get a clean setup, update you system and then ask for advice for what you want to archive.

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Hi & thx for the input.

Here is my output - I am running pulse

Server String: /run/user/1000/pulse/native
Library Protocol Version: 35
Server Protocol Version: 35
Is Local: yes
Client Index: 16
Tile Size: 65472
User Name: rob
Host Name: rob-Manj-22
Server Name: pulseaudio
Server Version: 16.0
Default Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
Default Channel Map: front-left,front-right
Default Sink: alsa_output.usb-Plantronics_Plantronics_Blackwire_3220_Series_AD024E0046484CA98515CE4E74B9607C-00.analog-stereo
Default Source: alsa_output.usb-Plantronics_Plantronics_Blackwire_3220_Series_AD024E0046484CA98515CE4E74B9607C-00.analog-stereo.monitor
Cookie: 88d9:94a4

So basically dont remove anything as there are obviously some pipewire dependencies (steam I think ) and continue just to use pulse. (This was my inital thought after going thru a lot of guides & suggestions found on here after a week of looking ). So I feel that Im kinda back at square one now with my inital problem.

TLDR … Im getting errors from modules on boot that have “NOTHING” to do with PEffects as I have been told by the dude who supports it on github.

The modules that are causing an issue cannot be removed because they are being used by Timeshift & gnome-disk-utility … Of which I dont now wish to remove as I like using them.

What I need to know if how I can go about trying to remove the modules from loading up in PEffects as they are not needed n so shouldnt cause a issue if I remove some lines (I assume via a config file).

I do not know how to do this or what approach I should take to resolve this?

Imo … This has nothing to do with Pulse or flatpak its to do with a config file … one that I need to edit … am I thinking right or am I missing something obvious?

P.s … If I am thinking correct, do you know what path(s) im likely to run across the config file :smiley:

Sorry for my typos … Im dyslexic

[2021-11-26T21:22:08+0000] [ALPM] upgraded pipewire (1:0.3.38-1 -> 1:0.3.40-1)
  File: /
  Size: 4096            Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   directory
Device: 8,1     Inode: 2           Links: 17
Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2022-02-04 00:40:33.431954513 +0000
Modify: 2022-06-15 18:54:53.323085596 +0100
Change: 2022-06-15 18:54:53.323085596 +0100
 Birth: 2021-11-17 02:08:36.000000000 +0000

Ill give it a go thx :slight_smile:

I’ll second what @banjo said. Go through your pipewire list and remove any aur/git packages. AFAIK it’s a very bad idea to have repo and aur versions of the same package installed on top of each other.

https://arcolinux.com/clean-up-your-computer-and-delete-the-pacman-cache/

Would running the -S and the -U command help? … Or does this link have nothing to do with what were are talking about?

Ill give that a goo too :slight_smile:

Thx for your help peeps … I let you know how it goes.

Enjoy your day :slight_smile:

first open the add/remove software click installed and foreign and post what you have installed here
or run this command:
pamac list -qm

Hi,

anbox-modules-dkms-git
balena-etcher
breath2-wallpaper
dvbsnoop
gnome-icon-theme
gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
gst-plugins-pulseeffects-legacy-git
lib32-lzo
libkipi
librepfunc
linux513
mingw-w64-tools
pacmixer
playonlinux
python2-wxpython3
spice-guest-tools-windows
ttf-ms-fonts
virtio-win
w_scan_cpp
woeusb

you need to run system update… first remove the 513 kernel:
sudo pacman -R linux513

Ok … old kernel removed

Updated system …

Its saying I gotta reboot, but before I do that … Do I assume the route to take now would be to go back and remove any pipewire aur/git packages as you suggested before?

  Kernel: 5.15.46-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.1.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.15-x86_64
    root=UUID=ce855673-fe32-42db-ad8d-b31e5de8e913 rw radeon.si_support=1
    radeon.cik_support=1 apparmor=1 security=apparmor
    resume=UUID=757b5e60-6999-41b8-a9df-8c2136460b4a udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.24.5 tk: Qt v: 5.15.4 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 1 dm: SDDM
    Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: P8H61-M LE/USB3 v: Rev x.0x
    serial: <superuser required> BIOS: American Megatrends v: 4601
    date: 09/18/2013
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-2500 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Sandy Bridge
    gen: core 2 built: 2010-12 process: Intel 32nm family: 6 model-id: 0x2A (42)
    stepping: 7 microcode: 0x2F
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 256 KiB
    desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 6 MiB
    desc: 1x6 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1599 high: 1608 min/max: 1600/3700 scaling:
    driver: intel_cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 1596 2: 1596 3: 1596
    4: 1608 bogomips: 26347
  Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf
    mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT disabled
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: spec_store_bypass
    mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
  Type: spectre_v1
    mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, IBRS_FW,
    STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Hawaii PRO [Radeon R9 290/390] driver: radeon v: kernel
    alternate: amdgpu arch: GCN 2 process: GF/TSMC 16-28nm built: 2013-17 pcie:
    gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s ports:
    active: HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-1,DVI-D-1,DVI-D-2 bus-ID: 01:00.0
    chip-ID: 1002:67b1 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.3 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X:
    loaded: radeon unloaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa gpu: radeon
    display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x285mm (20.00x11.22")
    s-diag: 582mm (22.93")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-0 model: LG (GoldStar) 42LF66
    serial: <filter> built: 2007 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 49 gamma: 1.2
    size: 1000x550mm (39.37x21.65") diag: 802mm (31.6") ratio: 16:9 modes:
    max: 1920x1080 min: 720x400
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD HAWAII (LLVM 13.0.1 DRM 2.50 5.15.46-1-MANJARO)
    v: 4.5 Mesa 22.1.1 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Hawaii HDMI Audio [Radeon R9 290/290X / 390/390X]
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 2-1.3:3 pcie: gen: 2
    chip-ID: 047f:c056 class-ID: 0300 speed: 5 GT/s serial: <filter> lanes: 16
    link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aac8
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Creative Labs Sound Core3D [Sound Blaster Recon3D / Z-Series]
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
    bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1102:0012 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Plantronics Plantronics Blackwire 3220 Series type: USB
    driver: plantronics,snd-usb-audio,usbhid
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.15.46-1-MANJARO running: yes
  Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no
  Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 16.0 running: yes
  Sound Server-4: PipeWire v: 0.3.52 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: ASUSTeK P8P67 and other motherboards driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 04:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp4s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Ralink RT5370 Wireless Adapter type: USB driver: rt2800usb
    bus-ID: 1-1.1:3 chip-ID: 148f:5370 class-ID: 0000 serial: <filter>
  IF: wlp0s26u1u1 state: up mac: <filter>
  IF-ID-1: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: TP-Link UB500 Adapter type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 2-1.6:6 chip-ID: 2357:0604 class-ID: e001 serial: <filter>
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: see --recommends
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 2.04 TiB used: 1.51 TiB (74.1%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 model: SATA3 120GB SSD size: 111.79 GiB
    block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD
    serial: <filter> rev: 7A0 scheme: MBR
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Kingston model: SA400S37120G
    size: 111.79 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
    type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 71E0 scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM003-9YN162
    size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
    type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> rev: CC4H scheme: MBR
  ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM010-2EP102
    size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
    type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> rev: CC43 scheme: MBR
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 102.99 GiB size: 100.81 GiB (97.89%)
    used: 69.26 GiB (68.7%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 10 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 8.8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 64.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
  Processes: 289 Uptime: 5h 15m wakeups: 0 Memory: 15.59 GiB
  used: 3.62 GiB (23.2%) Init: systemd v: 251 default: graphical
  tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.1.0 clang: 13.0.1 Packages: 1751
  pacman: 1708 lib: 499 flatpak: 24 snap: 19 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9 default: Bash
  v: 5.1.16 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.19

yes reboot … and you dont have the same aur and official repo packages, so dont need to remove anything

Ok, Thank you :slight_smile:

Gotta get my dinner on but will report back to advise what happened.

Thanks again for your time :+1:t2:

I wonder why do you need 90% of those packages…doubt you know either. AUR should be locked with password on Manjaro tbh. :smiley:

Yes that probably is a good idea :joy:

On the contrary tho … I do know why at least 50% of them are installed for … Gaming/emulation being the most prevalent … Im learning :slight_smile:

What a mess if misinformation.
@GCandy77 you should have done your due diligence and checked why pipewire package was installed on your system (what other package is requiring it):

$ pactree -r pipewire

This would have told you, kwin (an essential part of your KDE installation) is requiring pipewire-media-session and therefor pipewire … even if you’re still using pulseaudio as your audio server.

You can disable it’s socket/service as mentioned above - but you won’t be able to remove it (since that package is a requirement).