Dysfunctional Pamac

With both older manjaro xfce machines (acer acer aspire 7738G AND lenovo thinkpad X240):

Running updates in xfce-pamac, repeatingly the window disappears. Restarting pamac shows, “waiting for annother packetmamanager to finish” for a while. Thereafter, updates are displayed done.
Once I killed pamac, thinking it got totally stuck, which meant to reinstall the whole system.
Any idea, why pacman-windows vanishes while still working?

Second phenomenon, xfce sometimes freezes when moving cursor across the pamac-window. Same when trying to install “ausweis2app” from AUR. Have to restart system.

Possibly because some graphical components has been updated - forcing a window manager restart.

The recommendation is to switch to a TTY and do the system sync there as doing this will ensure the sync process is not interrupted by a window manager reset.

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Also ensure that you are NOT updating custom scripts in the same transaction - always split into

sudo pacman -Syu

Or

pamac upgrade --no-aur

And rebuild custom packages when the above succeeds

pamac upgrade --aur

Custom build scripts is intirely unsupported.

[Need-To-Know] About Manjaro and AUR

Disable AUR - it is know that Pamac may cause excessive resource usage when AUR is enabled in the GUI.

Disabling AUR will not change the ability to build custom packages from the command line.

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Only Pamac or any GTK4 application? I had problems with GTK4 programs, especially because of the Renderer, which also crashed Pamac.

I used this:

GSK_RENDERER=gl pamac-manager

I put this variable into /etc/environment.

But gl is now unfortunately obsolete and will be replaced by ngl. If nothing is specified, then vulkan is used if possible, which is not fully supported on some Intel GPUs, or not at all, which then leads to crashes.

That should display all possibles values:

GSK_RENDERER=help zenity --info

You can also test whether the older version pamac-gtk3 works better.

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Latest Manjaro Xfce ISOs include pamac-gtk3
but systems that were installed before July 2023 would still be using pamac-gtk`