Veracrypt does not recognize `ntfs3`

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No, it is not just a naming. There are 3 different drivers now.
Ntfs-3g is the paragon thing that is not updated a long time and is not in the kernel.
Ntfs3 is the current kernel driver that got seriously updated in the 7 series kernels
Ntfs will be a new kernel driver coming in 7.2 currently in development.

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I meant the naming of filesystem.

says tuxera is doing it. Tuxera is partnering with Microsoft since 2009.

Mod edit: changed Wikipedia URL to point to the English page

NTFS3 in kernel 5.15 is from Paragon. (I had trouble with it)

This thread says it all. The default in veracrypt seems
–filesystem=ntfs3
but now you need
–filesystem=ntfs

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To read the above topic and change the setting is what we told you 20 posts ago. Which you didn’t really confirm if you did. But i still think there is one more thing to do, i suspect adjusting you blacklisting.
There was at least one more topic on the matter where screenshots of that setting/mounting options were posted, i just couldn’t find it. I was set to auto, one had to change it. No command line.

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No, more accurately… :backhand_index_pointing_down:

  • ntfs was the old reverse-engineered in-kernel driver, which only really offered read-only support. Writing was only possible if you only overwrote existing disk blocks within the file without that the file size would increase. In other words, it was basically useless and has since been abandoned.

  • ntfs-3g is a more complete reverse-engineered driver that runs in userspace via the fuse framework. Running in userspace does of course make it slower.

  • ntfs3 is the Paragon-developed in-kernel driver.

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I think you mean this one :down_arrow:, which has been referred to as ntfsplus (but I think I remember seeing a reference to it being called ntfs).

Edit:

The link seems to refer to it as ntfs, but I’m sure I saw it elsewhere. Anyway it does seem to be called both ntfs and ntfsplus on the github page.

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I checked with live stick 26-04 and kernel 6.18. No blacklist, just of the box. Same error message using cryptsetup not veracrypt.

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@Aragorn @dmt thanks for the clarifications.

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This is basically it. But it should be emphasised that ntfs3 is the mainstream kernel new default, and it looks like where most of the new development efforts will be. (Even though rocky at first.)

You can get around this just by not using auto and specify ntfs-3g if you want it working like before. (I think you were using before, it’s getting hard to decipher all this.) If you can’t do this in VeraCrypt, why not mount it yourself? I am honestly confused why this an issue, but I haven’t touched VeraCrypt in eons.

I was even trying it out last week, it used ntfs3 for me in 7.1. And I rebooted to 6.18 on the same install, and it was back to ntfs.

As far as I can tell this is all done by a patch to util-linux?

Currently, the mapping from fs-type to mount-type is hardcoded in
libmount as a temporary solution. The final implementation should
provide configuration files (e.g., /etc/mount/fs.d/) for these
mappings.

The current default mapping is implemented only for NTFS. It can be
modified during compilation with:

./configure --with-ntfs-mounttype=TYPE
# or
meson setup build -D ntfs-mounttype=TYPE

The default is “ntfs3”.

(And this is obviously at compile time.)

And of course, ntfs3 doesn’t exist in 6.18.

It appears an /etc configuration will be eventually implemented, but for now you may have to pick which one you want to use.

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Are you using modulejail? If so, may be it’s not allowing a necessary module to load? You can run journalctl --system --since "1 day ago" | grep 'modulejail' to see modules that failed to load.

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The current version of modulejail, if desktop profile is used, has ntfs3 module whitelisted.

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Are you sure? :slight_smile:

I’m using kernel 6.18 (LTS) and the only NTFS filesystem driver I have is ntfs3, which continues to provide trouble-free service.

Nonetheless, I look forward to trying “NTFS Plus” in the near future.

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I only hope they will really call it ntfsplus and not just ntfs. This is already very confusing as is ntfs vs. ntfs3 vs. ntfs-3g

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No, but it aligned with my reading about it, and which kernels have what.

I did mount it myself too, and checked.

The above was also a guess. (Hence it was a question.)

But I can’t find where else it could be?

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I’d possibly prefer something like…

ntfsforked

Or, is that an oversimplification?!

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At least that one doesn’t trigger the swear filter. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Well, there should be a colloquial name reserved for the older drivers, don’t you think?! :wink:

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I am happy now. no veracrypt, just a small script does the job.
After Update I need to add -t ntfs-3g to make it work.

sudo cryptsetup open --type tcrypt "$CONTAINER" "$MAP_NAME"
sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/mapper/"$MAP_NAME" "$MOUNT_POINT"

(P.S.: mabox-linux-26.04-Istredd-260503-linux618.iso has ntfs-3g installed)

I thank everybody here for his contribution an patience.

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@DataXL

Where did you discover information for this; or did you resolve it yourself?

Either way, a Solution post must be marked.

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Besides information here Google-AI helped me. I think Google uses information out of this forum.

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It depends on the information you feed it.

If, for example, you ask a question while mentioning that you are using a Manjaro OS, the probability is high that it will reference any possible data that includes the word “Manjaro”.

The Manjaro forum would then be an obvious candidate for scraping, if relevant information isn’t already cached.

One needs to be specific in all questions, otherwise the agent will simply play it’s own difference engine games, continuously weighing one data point against another, until the returned information cannot be relied upon.

One needs to be specific in all questions

This is also important when dealing with humans in a Support context – it’s unfortunate that many seem unable to research effectively enough to ask a coherent question. :person_shrugging:

Thanks for clarifying and marking a Solution – in this instance, marking your own post was appropriate.

Regards.