I have the problem described in this post. However, I have cleaned the touchpad several times (the solution in the post), but it doesn’t work. It consistenly only works with the extra finger: 2 fingers to move and 3 to scroll.
How can I debug this? Any idea?
maybe the error is on the software side.
are you using gnome or kde? an inxi --verbosity=8 --filter could be helpful.
can you try to start a live-linux from a usb-stick (preferably a fresh manjaro version) and see how it behaves there.
I’m using Gnome. I will download and run it using USB and report back.
System:
Kernel: 6.12.25-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 14.2.1
clocksource: tsc avail: acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12-x86_64
root=UUID=75d705ae-4b78-421e-b212-c3d72d25ff1c rw quiet
cryptdevice=UUID=3b0f96f9-124f-4a61-b2e4-756ee1ed8907:luks-3b0f96f9-124f-4a61-b2e4-756ee1ed8907
root=/dev/mapper/luks-3b0f96f9-124f-4a61-b2e4-756ee1ed8907 splash
apparmor=1 security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
Desktop: GNOME v: 48.1 tk: GTK v: 3.24.49 wm: gnome-shell
tools: gsd-screensaver-proxy dm: GDM v: 48.0 Distro: Manjaro
base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 21AHCTO1WW v: ThinkPad T14 Gen 3
serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
Mobo: LENOVO model: 21AHCTO1WW serial: <superuser required>
part-nu: LENOVO_MT_21AH_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad T14 Gen 3
uuid: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO v: N3MET16W (1.15 )
date: 06/25/2023
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 37.5 Wh (78.6%) condition: 47.7/52.5 Wh (90.9%)
power: 36.2 W volts: 17.5 min: 15.5 model: Sunwoda 5B10W51867 type: Li-poly
serial: <filter> status: charging cycles: 281
Memory:
System RAM: total: 32 GiB available: 31.06 GiB used: 14.65 GiB (47.2%)
Message: For most reliable report, use superuser + dmidecode.
Array-1: capacity: 256 GiB slots: 8 modules: 2 EC: None
max-module-size: 32 GiB note: est.
Device-1: Controller0-ChannelA type: DDR4 detail: synchronous size: 16 GiB
speed: 3200 MT/s volts: curr: 1 width (bits): data: 64 total: 64
manufacturer: Micron Technology part-no: 4ATS2G64HZ-3G2B1 serial: N/A
Device-2: Controller0-ChannelB-DIMM0 type: no module installed
Device-3: Controller0-ChannelC-DIMM0 type: no module installed
Device-4: Controller0-ChannelD-DIMM0 type: no module installed
Device-5: Controller1-ChannelA-DIMM0 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous
size: 16 GiB speed: 3200 MT/s volts: curr: 1 width (bits): data: 64
total: 64 manufacturer: SK Hynix part-no: HMAA2GS6CJR8N-XN
serial: <filter>
Device-6: Controller1-ChannelB-DIMM0 type: no module installed
Device-7: Controller1-ChannelC-DIMM0 type: no module installed
Device-8: Controller1-ChannelD-DIMM0 type: no module installed
PCI Slots:
Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
Info: model: 12th Gen Intel Core i7-1270P bits: 64 type: MST AMCP
arch: Alder Lake level: v3 note: check built: 2021+
process: Intel 7 (10nm ESF) family: 6 model-id: 0x9A (154) stepping: 3
microcode: 0x436
Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 6 cores: 12 threads: 16 mt: 4 tpc: 2
st: 8 smt: enabled cache: L1: 1.1 MiB desc: d-8x32 KiB, 4x48 KiB; i-4x32
KiB, 8x64 KiB L2: 9 MiB desc: 4x1.2 MiB, 2x2 MiB L3: 18 MiB desc: 1x18 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 682 min/max: 400/4800:3500 scaling: driver: intel_pstate
governor: powersave cores: 1: 682 2: 682 3: 682 4: 682 5: 682 6: 682 7: 682
8: 682 9: 682 10: 682 11: 682 12: 682 13: 682 14: 682 15: 682 16: 682
bogomips: 79888
Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat
arch_capabilities arch_lbr arch_perfmon art avx avx2 avx_vnni bmi1 bmi2
bts clflush clflushopt clwb cmov constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8
de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb erms est f16c flush_l1d fma fpu fsgsbase
fsrm fxsr gfni hfi ht hwp hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_notify hwp_pkg_req
ibpb ibrs ibrs_enhanced ibt ida intel_pt invpcid lahf_lm lm mca mce
md_clear mmx monitor movbe movdir64b movdiri msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx
ospke pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pconfig pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge pku pln
pni popcnt pse pse36 pts rdpid rdrand rdseed rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep
serialize sha_ni smap smep smx split_lock_detect ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1
sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tsc tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer
tsc_known_freq umip user_shstk vaes vme vpclmulqdq waitpkg x2apic xgetbv1
xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
Type: reg_file_data_sampling mitigation: Clear Register File
Type: retbleed status: Not affected
Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced / Automatic IBRS; IBPB:
conditional; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: BHI_DIS_S
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-P GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics] vendor: Lenovo
driver: i915 v: kernel alternate: xe arch: Xe process: Intel 10nm
built: 2021-22+ ports: active: DP-3 off: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-4,
HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:46a6 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: Bison Integrated RGB Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 3-4:2 chip-ID: 5986:2142
class-ID: fe01 serial: <filter>
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.16 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.6
compositor: gnome-shell driver: gpu: i915 display-ID: 0
Monitor-1: DP-3 model: LG (GoldStar) ULTRAFINE serial: <filter>
built: 2022 res: 3840x2160 dpi: 163 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.682
y: 0.318 green: x: 0.259 y: 0.678 blue: x: 0.149 y: 0.059 white: x: 0.314
y: 0.329 size: 600x340mm (23.62x13.39") diag: 690mm (27.2") ratio: 16:9
modes: 3840x2160, 2560x1440, 1920x1080, 1280x720, 1024x768, 800x600,
720x480, 640x480
Monitor-2: eDP-1 model: AU Optronics 0xd291 built: 2020 res: 1920x1200
dpi: 162 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.655 y: 0.333 green: x: 0.286 y: 0.620
blue: x: 0.137 y: 0.051 white: x: 0.310 y: 0.337
size: 301x188mm (11.85x7.4") diag: 355mm (14") ratio: 16:10
modes: 1920x1200
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel iris platforms: device: 0 drv: iris
device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: iris surfaceless: drv: iris wayland:
drv: iris x11: drv: iris
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: intel mesa v: 25.0.4-arch1.1
glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel Iris Xe Graphics (ADL
GT2) device-ID: 8086:46a6 memory: 15.16 GiB unified: yes display-ID: :0.0
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo x11: xprop,xrandr
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Alder Lake PCH-P High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo
driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl alternate: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_avs,
snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl bus-ID: 00:1f.3 chip-ID: 8086:51c8 class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.12.25-1-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off tools: N/A
Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.4.2 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: pipewire-media-session status: active 3: pipewire-alsa
type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli
Network:
Device-1: Intel Alder Lake-P PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi v: kernel
bus-ID: 00:14.3 chip-ID: 8086:51f0 class-ID: 0280
IF: wlp0s20f3 state: up mac: <filter>
IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
broadcast: <filter>
IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
Device-2: Intel Ethernet I219-LM vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel
port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:1a1e class-ID: 0200
IF: enp0s31f6 state: down mac: <filter>
IF-ID-1: docker0 state: up speed: 10000 Mbps duplex: unknown mac: <filter>
IP v4: <filter> scope: global broadcast: <filter>
IP v6: <filter> virtual: proto kernel_ll scope: link
IF-ID-2: tailscale0 state: unknown speed: -1 duplex: full mac: N/A
IP v4: <filter> scope: global
IP v6: <filter> scope: global
IP v6: <filter> virtual: stable-privacy proto kernel_ll scope: link
IF-ID-3: vethd678d5b state: up speed: 10000 Mbps duplex: full
mac: <filter>
IF-ID-4: vethe0ac69d state: up speed: 10000 Mbps duplex: full
mac: <filter>
Info: services: NetworkManager, sshd, systemd-timesyncd, wpa_supplicant
WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Intel AX211 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0
speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 3-10:6 chip-ID: 8087:0033
class-ID: e001
Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: see --recommends
Logical:
Message: No logical block device data found.
Device-1: luks-3b0f96f9-124f-4a61-b2e4-756ee1ed8907 maj-min: 254:0
type: LUKS dm: dm-0 size: 476.64 GiB
Components:
p-1: nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 size: 476.64 GiB
RAID:
Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 384.21 GiB (80.6%)
SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Micron model: MTFDKBA512TFH
size: 476.94 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 63.2 Gb/s
lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 0002P7LN temp: 50.9 C
scheme: GPT
Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 476.64 GiB size: 468.09 GiB (98.21%)
used: 384.21 GiB (82.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 254:0
mapped: luks-3b0f96f9-124f-4a61-b2e4-756ee1ed8907 label: N/A
uuid: 75d705ae-4b78-421e-b212-c3d72d25ff1c
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
used: 448 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1 label: N/A
uuid: 34FE-C0D1
Swap:
Alert: No swap data was found.
Unmounted:
Message: No unmounted partitions found.
USB:
Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 1 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
class-ID: 0900
Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 3 rev: 3.1
speed: 20 Gb/s (2.33 GiB/s) lanes: 2 mode: 3.2 gen-2x2 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
class-ID: 0900
Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 12 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
class-ID: 0900
Device-1: 3-4:2 info: Bison Integrated RGB Camera type: video
driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 5 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s)
lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 500mA chip-ID: 5986:2142 class-ID: fe01
serial: <filter>
Hub-4: 3-6:8 info: Realtek RTS5411 Hub ports: 5 rev: 2.1
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 0bda:5411
class-ID: 0900
Device-1: 3-6.3:9 info: LG USA 27UP850 - WK.AEUDCSN External Monitor 4K
type: HID,abstract (modem),CDC-data driver: cdc_acm,hid-generic,usbhid
interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1
chip-ID: 043e:9a39 class-ID: 0a00 serial: <filter>
Device-2: 3-7:7 info: Logitech Logi Bolt Receiver type: keyboard,mouse,HID
driver: hid-generic,hid-multitouch,usbhid interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0
speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 98mA
chip-ID: 046d:c548 class-ID: 0300
Device-3: 3-10:6 info: Intel AX211 Bluetooth type: bluetooth driver: btusb
interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1
power: 100mA chip-ID: 8087:0033 class-ID: e001
Hub-5: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 56.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (rpm): fan-1: 2474
Repos:
Packages: pm: pacman pkgs: 1546 libs: 400 tools: gnome-software,pamac
pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
1: http://ftp.tu-chemnitz.de/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
2: https://mirror.23m.com/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
3: https://mirror.alpix.eu/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
4: https://manjaro.kurdy.org/stable/$repo/$arch
5: http://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
6: https://mirror.netcologne.de/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
7: http://ftp.rz.tu-bs.de/pub/mirror/manjaro.org/repos/stable/$repo/$arch
8: https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
Processes:
CPU top: 5 of 444
1: cpu: 45.8% command: firefox pid: 5934 mem: 451.7 MiB (1.4%)
2: cpu: 37.9% command: firefox pid: 5747 mem: 1271.4 MiB (3.9%)
3: cpu: 9.5% command: localsearch-extractor-3 pid: 44268
mem: 37.4 MiB (0.1%)
4: cpu: 8.2% command: gnome-shell pid: 1213 mem: 531.0 MiB (1.6%)
5: cpu: 4.8% command: slack pid: 3139 mem: 717.1 MiB (2.2%)
Memory top: 5 of 444
1: mem: 1271.4 MiB (3.9%) command: firefox pid: 5747 cpu: 37.9%
2: mem: 796.2 MiB (2.5%) command: firefox pid: 28597 cpu: 3.3%
3: mem: 763.1 MiB (2.3%) command: dockerd pid: 1282 cpu: 2.1%
4: mem: 717.1 MiB (2.2%) command: slack pid: 3139 cpu: 4.8%
5: mem: 688.3 MiB (2.1%) command: firefox pid: 5919 cpu: 0.7%
Info:
Processes: 444 Power: uptime: 1h 52m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: s2idle
wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot, suspend, test_resume
image: 12.41 GiB services: gsd-power, power-profiles-daemon, upowerd
Init: systemd v: 257 default: graphical tool: systemctl
Compilers: clang: 19.1.7 gcc: 14.2.1 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9 running-in: guake
inxi: 3.3.38
could you also post the result of this command?
gsettings list-recursively | grep touchpad
io.github.realmazharhussain.GdmSettings.touchpad disable-on-external-mouse false
io.github.realmazharhussain.GdmSettings.touchpad disable-while-typing true
io.github.realmazharhussain.GdmSettings.touchpad enable true
io.github.realmazharhussain.GdmSettings.touchpad natural-scrolling true
io.github.realmazharhussain.GdmSettings.touchpad speed 0.34999999999999998
io.github.realmazharhussain.GdmSettings.touchpad tap-to-click true
io.github.realmazharhussain.GdmSettings.touchpad two-finger-scrolling true
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad accel-profile 'default'
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad click-method 'fingers'
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad disable-while-typing true
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad edge-scrolling-enabled false
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad left-handed 'mouse'
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad middle-click-emulation false
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad natural-scroll true
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad send-events 'enabled'
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad speed 0.71282051282051273
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad tap-and-drag true
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad tap-and-drag-lock false
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad tap-button-map 'default'
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad tap-to-click true
org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad two-finger-scrolling-enabled true
org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys touchpad-off ['']
org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys touchpad-off-static ['XF86TouchpadOff']
org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys touchpad-on ['']
org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys touchpad-on-static ['XF86TouchpadOn']
org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys touchpad-toggle ['']
org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys touchpad-toggle-static ['XF86TouchpadToggle', '<Ctrl><Super>XF86TouchpadToggle']
Older versions of gnome ISO may have included the gnome-shell-extension-x11gestures package.
A note in the current iso-profile indicates it has been removed because it has not been updated for gnome 48
→ manjaro/gnome/Packages-Desktop · master · Profiles & Settings / iso-profiles · GitLab
I am guessing - but It could be this extension causing the issue.
Well, I have just disconnect my laptop from the power supply, suspend it and open it back, and it now works 
in germany we say ‘relative mondfeuchte (relative lunar humidity)’
I’d be inclined to plug in another touchpad first - if I didn’t (and I don’t) have one lying around, I’d drag my ass down to the local jib hardware shop and ask if I could quickly test one of theirs.
My TV currently has an issue which persists for between 5 seconds and 20 minutes of startup - not sure what, could be a dodgy connection or failing component that needs to settle down to an ambient temperature to resume normal operation.