I find that very hard to believe.
Random, off-topic comments and discussion are normally not tolerated on #announcements posts.
@Frog has a point - dbus-x11 came pre-installed with Manjaro Xfce as recently as a year ago. All those users will still have it installed if they haven’t manually changed it since then.
Adding a warning in the wiki is the least that can be done - so I’ve gone ahead and done that.
FYI: regardless of stance on whether or not gui applications should be launched as root, dbus-x11 is no longer required to do that. launching thunar and subsequently mousepad as root using pkexec under dbus has worked for quite some time now. I have not encountered any other tasks that would require dbus-x11 over dbus.
Ideally, dbus-x11 (version 1.14.4-1) would be automatically replaced with dbus with manjaro-system to reduce manual required intervention for the update. Anyone wanting to keep the package from the AUR would install version 1.15.0-2 and would not be affected afterward.
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Yes (you can search for “dbus” in the pkgs text file). Official ISOs offered by the manjaro site prior to 21.2.1 (released 2022-01-03) came with dbus-x11 instead of dbus.
Unless you are implying that it was included more recently than that by default, which would be even more reason to automate the transition.
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We provided nocsd once. However the XFCE Classic project only updated to 4.17.0 so far. I pushed now that package to our extra repos, however I don’t know if that project is still active or not. I opened an issue: libxfce4ui 4.18.0 released · Issue #15 · Xfce-Classic/libxfce4ui-nocsd · GitHub If there is no response in a timely manner we consider to drop the package from our repos. Just let me know if 4.17.0 fixes your panel issue or if it is still there.