When I do a full update the packages download works fine as well as the installation of “regular” packages. Then the system hangs and becomes unusabale for a few minutes when it upgrade kernel module ( pasted below)
281/416) upgrading linux-firmware [########################################################################################] 100%
(282/416) upgrading mkinitcpio-busybox [########################################################################################] 100%
(283/416) upgrading linux414 [########################################################################################] 100%
(284/416) upgrading linux414-r8168 [########################################################################################] 100%
(285/416) upgrading linux419 [########################################################################################] 100%
(286/416) upgrading linux419-r8168 [########################################################################################] 100%
(287/416) upgrading linux54 [########################################################################################] 100%
(288/416) upgrading linux54-r8168 [########################################################################################] 100%
Cpu and ram are low during the freeze so I’m not sure what cause this. I’ve never had that before on any other OS nor Manjaro.
Moreover, I think I’ve had the problem since the installation 2 year ago, I’m not sure. Usually I upgrade when I’m afk.
Thanks,
F.f
Fabby
28 April 2021 22:24
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You haven’t give us any system information but those are very disk-intensive operations so if you still have spinning rust a 5400 RPM HDD that could be causing the “freeze” as CPU wait time is not taken into account in all CPU monitors and the system is just waiting for disk I/O to finish.
The os is on a a nvme ssd. So that shouldn’t be an issues, isn’t?
inxi --admin --verbosity=7 --filter --no-host --width
System:
Kernel: 5.4.112-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4-x86_64
root=UUID=30a427ca-5791-4920-aced-f594086744ca rw quiet
cryptdevice=UUID=5a87230c-02e9-4b45-b42c-bfb1a2e5ad19:luks-5a87230c-02e9-4b45-b42c-bfb1a2e5ad19
root=/dev/mapper/luks-5a87230c-02e9-4b45-b42c-bfb1a2e5ad19
resume=/dev/mapper/luks-5a87230c-02e9-4b45-b42c-bfb1a2e5ad19
Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.24 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 vt: 7
dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME H310M-A v: Rev X.0x
serial: <filter> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 0803 date: 06/20/2018
Battery:
Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
RAM: total: 31.22 GiB used: 5.31 GiB (17.0%)
RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
Info: 6-Core model: Intel Core i5-8600 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Kaby Lake
note: check family: 6 model-id: 9E (158) stepping: A (10) microcode: DE
cache: L2: 9 MiB bogomips: 37213
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/4300 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800
4: 800 5: 800 6: 800
Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon art
avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush clflushopt cmov constant_tsc cpuid
cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est
f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr hle ht hwp hwp_act_window
hwp_epp hwp_notify ibpb ibrs ida intel_pt invpcid invpcid_single lahf_lm lm
mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe mpx msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat
pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti pts
rdrand rdseed rdtscp rep_good rtm sdbg sep smap smep smx ss ssbd sse sse2
sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust
tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt
xsaves xtopology xtpr
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Vulnerable
Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1
mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional,
IBRS_FW, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT disabled
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 630 vendor: ASUSTeK driver: i915 v: kernel
bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:3e92 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: ARC Camera type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-3:2
chip-ID: 05a3:9331 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
Display: x11 server: X.org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: intel
unloaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa resolution: <missing: xdpyinfo>
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 630 (CFL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.0.2
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl,snd_sof_pci bus-ID: 00:1f.3
chip-ID: 8086:a348 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: ARC Camera type: USB driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo bus-ID: 1-3:2
chip-ID: 05a3:9331 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.4.112-1-MANJARO running: yes
Sound Server-2: sndio v: N/A running: no
Sound Server-3: JACK v: 0.125.0 running: no
Sound Server-4: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes
Sound Server-5: PipeWire v: 0.3.25 running: no
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8168 v: 8.048.03-NAPI modules: r8169 port: 3000
bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
IF: enp2s0 state: up speed: 10 Mbps duplex: half mac: <filter>
IP v4: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: global broadcast: <filter>
IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Message: No bluetooth data found.
Logical:
Message: No logical block device data found.
Device-1: sda1_crypt maj-min: 254:1 type: LUKS dm: dm-1 size: 3.64 TiB
Components:
p-1: sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 3.64 TiB
Device-2: luks-5a87230c-02e9-4b45-b42c-bfb1a2e5ad19 maj-min: 254:0
type: LUKS dm: dm-0 size: 111.5 GiB
Components:
p-1: sdb2 maj-min: 8:18 size: 111.5 GiB
RAID:
Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 3.75 TiB used: 2.55 TiB (68.0%)
SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital model: WD40EZRZ-22GXCB0
size: 3.64 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> rev: 0A80 scheme: GPT
ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Western Digital
model: WDS120G2G0B-00EPW0 size: 111.8 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s rotation: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0000
scheme: GPT
Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 111.5 GiB size: 109.25 GiB (97.98%)
used: 84.27 GiB (77.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 254:0
mapped: luks-5a87230c-02e9-4b45-b42c-bfb1a2e5ad19 label: N/A
uuid: 30a427ca-5791-4920-aced-f594086744ca
ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
used: 408 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 label: N/A
uuid: 00A6-59C6
ID-3: /home/<filter>/thiccboi raw-size: 3.64 TiB size: 3.58 TiB (98.40%)
used: 2.47 TiB (68.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-1 maj-min: 254:1
mapped: sda1_crypt label: N/A uuid: N/A
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 50 (default 60) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 5.86 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
file: /swapfile
ID-2: swap-2 type: file size: 20 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 10
file: /home/<filter>/thiccboi/.swapfile
Unmounted:
Message: No unmounted partitions found.
USB:
Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 16 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
Device-1: 1-3:2 info: ARC Camera type: Video,Audio
driver: snd-usb-audio,uvcvideo interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
power: 200mA chip-ID: 05a3:9331 class-ID: 0102 serial: <filter>
Device-2: 1-5:3 info: Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 type: Mouse
driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 1.5 Mb/s
power: 100mA chip-ID: 045e:00cb class-ID: 0301
Device-3: 1-6:4 info: Logitech DeLuxe 250 Keyboard type: Keyboard,HID
driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 1.5 Mb/s
power: 100mA chip-ID: 046d:c312 class-ID: 0300
Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 27.8 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 249 Uptime: 28m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 247 tool: systemctl
Compilers: gcc: 10.2.0 clang: 11.1.0 Packages: pacman: 1946 lib: 454
Shell: Bash v: 5.1.0 running-in: terminator inxi: 3.3.04
I think it’s simply that your hd is full, at that stage shown, pacman needs disc space to extract the package files.
pacman -Sc
Fabby
30 April 2021 15:24
5
No it isn’t:
I.E.
The “drives” section of inxi shows the partitions, so if the disk is fully allocated to partitions, it’s 100% (in this case ~2% isn’t actually allocated)
The “partitions” section shows the actual disk usage as per df, so the 109 GB / only has 84 GB in use.
No, it isn’t: it’s on an M2 SSD …
Well, M2s are much faster than HDDs but even the speed of an M2 isn’t infinite neither, so next time before running a large update, start:
sudo iotop
in another terminal in parallel and then you’ll see it even maxes out a WD M2 green when updating 3 kernels…
P.S. After you do the above, please don’t forget to come back and click the 3 dots below the answer to mark a solution like this below the answer that helped you most:
Thanks for both replies,
I’ve already checked with iotop, disk usage is far from saturating the drive.
I’ve never experienced this on another setup, with a graphic environment or headless or with arch or debian based OS. My laptop has worse spec and a sata ssd (and even before a hdd) and update are smooth.
I’m not talking about a slow down of the system, the whole thing freeze for 10 minutes. I guess I could test if a limiter such as ionice fix the issue but this is not a “normal” behaviour.
