Recent update breaks a lot of stuff

I’m having problems finding your original request for support in this forum. All I can find in your user activity (All - Activity - wtechgo - Manjaro Linux Forum) is a tutorial you posted ([HowTo] Getting NVIDIA Geforce GT740m working on Manjaro with mhwd and Bumblebee390xx) and the above post.

Why do you consider this community to be unhelpful if you (apparently) never requested help in the first place?

@scotty65 That post was made with another account progonkpa.

I made this account because the account name WTechGo is relevant to my video editing and programming activities.

On Reddit, my post was done under WTechGo.

Edit: @linux-aarhus I wasn’t aware of that rule and have no intentions of trolling or sockpuppeting.

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Correct link to the post (minus the /3 at the end which sends it to a non-existent page):

My bad. The original link pointed to an answer, so I removed the trailing segment of the URL, badly.

@scotty65 @linux-aarhus In my view, all comments after comment are unnecessary clutter and may be deleted if you guys agree.

I also updated /t/all-versions-of-kdenlive-crash-on-startup, because my troubleshooting continued after the OP and I have included that process.

Are you still using the .appImage version of Kdenlive?; the one you were informed (in your previous thread) was broken in all arch-based distributions?

Indeed, informing you of the Kdenlive .appImage compatibility should be considered very helpful. It has been your choice to continue using it despite the information given, and your responsibility; please, don’t put the blame on the Manjaro community, or others, for your own apparent ignorance.

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You take the effort to attack me while not even reading the title.

ALL versions of Kdenlive crash on startup.”

When you read the post, you discover I tried from package manager and AUR too.

I could try to update and install Kdenlive from package manager, the only problem, the update breaks my system what this post is about.

It was not an attack on you; moreover, a defense of the Manjaro community. Perhaps you would be best served remaining with Windows for your video editing needs.

Aside;- I’m not sure that the video card; especially with the older unsupported drivers, is ideal for your needs. I presume you have better capability on the multiboot system; which again, may be better suited.

On the topic of ‘updates breaking stuff’, well, things do seem to break sometimes, but experience has shown it’s rarely an update that does it. Rather a consequence of the update and how it affects a pre-existing condition; usually user-induced.

If there is a choice between installing any package from the official repo’s, or somewhere else… the ‘somewhere else’ is seldom more reliable.

Incidentally, the last few updates (at least for me) haven’t resulted in any perceived breakages. Yes, I use video editing packages, and much more; the main differences are that I use KDE (on Wayland), AMD graphics (amdgpu), and am cautious about the packages I introduce to the environment. Some might argue I’m too cautious, at times; and yet, I have a stable system with a great record of uptime.

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I did a fresh install with a Manjaro Gnome 6.5 kernel iso, tried Kdenlive appimage, and it worked.

Then I did an update without touching the GPU stuff, and I was back in the same predicament. That cuts out a lot of user-induced problems.

I can’t remember if I tried the package manager and AUR route at the time. I assume I did not, which I find unfortunate now.

The installation process didn’t go smooth as described in this comment I made today.

Regardless, remember, Kdenlive worked after plowing through the installation. Only after updating, it stopped working.

I’ve done all I can do to give clues to what could be going on. I certainly don’t know.

This is an old laptop but it works fine. 2.7 GHz quad core does the job without me having to wait all day. Sure, a newer laptop would be nice, but that’s for later.

@wongs No, it means I did not open Manjaro Settings and execute an Auto-install proprietary drivers.

@wtechgo you can get today’s build of stable branch ISO and just install kdelive in the live-session to check if everything works with the latest package updates. This way you don’t change your internal installation at all: Release 202312100136 · manjaro/release-review · GitHub

This user might have a similar issue: All versions of Kdenlive crash on startup
You can also switch to testing to get the latest kdelive version.

That user is also this user, with an alternate account.

You hadn’t mentioned it was a laptop; I imagine that only compounds the complication. Is this laptop also the Windows multiboot system you mentioned? I took it to mean you had a separate multiboot system.

Does that mean it was not a full update of ALL updatable packages?

It’s a laptop with Intel-Nvidia hybrid, meaning an Intel GPU and a dedicated Nvidia GPU, hence Bumblebee390.

It’s a multiboot install on an SSD of 512GB with two partitions, one for Windows (first) and one for Linux, as recommended and executed by Manjaro iso install process, a long time ago.

It seems Nvidia 545 driver has a lot of regressions with hybrid cards. So it is recommended to stay on 535 series we don’t support anymore …

That’s a good idea, I’ll give it a go.

Fyi, the KDE zip throws an error when I try to extract it with archive manager. Other zips work fine.

Nvidia 545 doesn’t support my GT 740m card, only 390 supports it I think.

Are you sure? Nvidia 535 doesn’t seem to specifically list the GT 740m as being supported. These driver versions seem to be the latest supporting the GeForce GT 740M (Notebooks):

The zip file is likely damaged. Download it again. Actually, use torrent, if you can (if it’s available); it’s generally more reliable.

New for me, but it seems we have to do this hat trick.

cat manjaro-kde-23.1-231210-linux66.iso.z01 manjaro-kde-23.1-231210-linux66.iso.zip > manjaro66.zip
unzip manjaro66.zip

Multipart zips; :man_facepalming: annoying, but yes, they need to be catenated.

I did the live USB KDE thing and Kdenlive package works, appimage does not, fine package then.

I installed KDE 6.6 to disk and had to jump through all the hoops again as described in the 2nd part of this comment All versions of Kdenlive crash on startup - #5 by progonkpa

Noteworthy, my password did not authenticate which I worked around by resetting it as root in live USB env.

Once booted from disk, system time was 1 hour in the future, fixed that.

Then, I ran update and got the arch-keyring error, no permission to write to file or can’t find file, it says.

Now I have commands to work around that too, but last time I did that, I ended up stranded.

I’m running memtest86 atm and will continue with the arch-keyring commands when that finished successfully, like resetthe keyring and do an init of the keyring.

However, when things don’t go smooth from the get-go, it’s often bad news.

If somebody has some inputs on the situation, shoot.

Yeah.

What “second part”.
Give us the exact commands you use.

What password? User password? Sudo password? Root password?

Ok… Logs???

Then don’t do that. Clearly those “commands” are incorrect but we have no idea what commands and why they fail.

I agree, but without us knowing EXACTLY what procedures you use to do things, there is not much for us to do.

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