Problem with endless refreshing/skipping of pacman keys

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I have been dealing with issue for quite some time. But I seem to update Manjaro just fine, so I have learned to live with it for a while.

I have looked at a lot of posts, wikis, and guides to attempt to fix this.

My logs are 100s of pages of entries like this:

Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4B1DE545A801D4549BFD3FEF90CB3D62C13D4796 with UID farseerfc@archlinuxcn.org...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4B1DE545A801D4549BFD3FEF90CB3D62C13D4796 with UID farseerfc@gmail.com...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4BE61D684CB4E31741614E7089AA27231C530226 with UID arch@kge.pw...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4BE61D684CB4E31741614E7089AA27231C530226 with UID kgizdov@gmail.com...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4BE61D684CB4E31741614E7089AA27231C530226 with UID kgizdov@keybase.io...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4D913AECD81726D9A6C74F0ADA6426DD215B37AD with UID guillaume@archlinux.org...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4D913AECD81726D9A6C74F0ADA6426DD215B37AD with UID guillaume@alaux.net...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4D913AECD81726D9A6C74F0ADA6426DD215B37AD with UID guillaume@linux.com...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4FCF887689C41B09506BE8D5F3E1D5C5D30DB0AD with UID me@andreascarpino.it...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4FCF887689C41B09506BE8D5F3E1D5C5D30DB0AD with UID andrea@archlinux.org...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 4FCF887689C41B09506BE8D5F3E1D5C5D30DB0AD with UID scarpino@kde.org...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 50F33E2E5B0C3D900424ABE89BDCF497A4BBCC7F with UID mail@ambrevar.xyz...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 50F33E2E5B0C3D900424ABE89BDCF497A4BBCC7F with UID ambrevar@gmail.com...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 50F33E2E5B0C3D900424ABE89BDCF497A4BBCC7F with UID pe.neidhardt@gmail.com...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 50F33E2E5B0C3D900424ABE89BDCF497A4BBCC7F with UID pe.neidhardt@googlemail.com...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 50F33E2E5B0C3D900424ABE89BDCF497A4BBCC7F with UID pierre@atlas.engineer...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 5134EF9EAF65F95B6BB1608E50FB9B273A9D0BB5 with UID johannes@kyriasis.com...
Apr 03 15:10:11 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Refreshing key 5134EF9EAF65F95B6BB1608E50FB9B273A9D0BB5 with UID demize@archlinux.org...
Apr 03 15:10:26 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66179]: pub   rsa8192 2014-01-14 [SC] [expires: 2024-01-05]
Apr 03 15:10:26 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66179]:       5134EF9EAF65F95B6BB1608E50FB9B273A9D0BB5
Apr 03 15:10:26 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66179]: uid           [marginal] Johannes Löthberg <johannes@kyriasis.com>
Apr 03 15:10:26 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66179]: uid           [  full  ] Johannes Löthberg <demize@archlinux.org>
Apr 03 15:10:26 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66179]: sub   rsa8192 2014-01-14 [E] [expires: 2024-01-05]
Apr 03 15:10:26 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66179]: sub   rsa8192 2014-09-21 [S] [expires: 2024-01-05]
Apr 03 15:10:26 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Refreshing key 531ECF3644A44FEA0B47DBCDE1E3CF0539448BFF with UID ike.devolder@archlinux.org...
Apr 03 15:10:42 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66187]: pub   ed25519 2021-10-30 [SC] [expires: 2023-10-30]
Apr 03 15:10:42 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66187]:       531ECF3644A44FEA0B47DBCDE1E3CF0539448BFF
Apr 03 15:10:42 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66187]: uid           [  full  ] Ike Devolder <ike.devolder@archlinux.org>
Apr 03 15:10:42 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66187]: sub   cv25519 2021-10-30 [E] [expires: 2023-10-30]
Apr 03 15:10:42 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 5357F3B111688D88C1D88119FCF2CB179205AC90 with UID eric@archlinux.org...
Apr 03 15:10:42 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Skipping key 535F8C0339450F054A4D282706096A6AD1CEDDAC with UID lordheavym@gmail.com...
Apr 03 15:10:42 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Refreshing key 535F8C0339450F054A4D282706096A6AD1CEDDAC with UID lordheavym@archlinux.org...
Apr 03 15:10:58 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66223]: pub   rsa2048 2011-10-30 [SC]
Apr 03 15:10:58 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66223]:       535F8C0339450F054A4D282706096A6AD1CEDDAC
Apr 03 15:10:58 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66223]: uid           [marginal] Laurent Carlier <lordheavym@gmail.com>
Apr 03 15:10:58 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66223]: uid           [  full  ] Laurent Carlier <lordheavym@archlinux.org>
Apr 03 15:10:58 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[66223]: sub   rsa2048 2011-10-30 [E]
Apr 03 15:10:58 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65959]: Refreshing key 54C1FD273361EA514A237793F296BDE50368C6CE with UID blakkheim@archlinux.org...

It took a while to even spot it, but it does eventually seem to error like so:

Apr 03 14:57:20 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65230]: Skipping key C57F35931F317BF9058F834F682758BC60D8F87A with UID chris@the-brannons.com...
Apr 03 14:57:20 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65230]: Skipping key 1793DAD5D803A8FFD7451697BB992F9864FAD168 with UID dave@sleepmap.de...
Apr 03 14:57:20 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65230]: Error refreshing key 48C3B1F30DDD0FE67E516D16396E3E25BAB142C1 with UID keenerd@archlinux.org.
Apr 03 14:57:20 mbox archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync[65230]: Error refreshing key B8151B117037781095514CA7BBDFFC92306B1121 with UID andrew@archlinux.org.
Apr 03 14:57:20 mbox systemd[1]: archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync.service: Main process exited, code=exited, status=2/INVALIDARGUMENT
Apr 03 14:57:20 mbox systemd[1]: archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync.service: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Apr 03 14:57:20 mbox audit[1]: SERVICE_STOP pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295 subj=unconfined msg='unit=archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? res=failed'
Apr 03 14:57:20 mbox systemd[1]: archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync.service: Consumed 1.545s CPU time.

I have done many things including attempting to redo the whole thing like so:

  1. Moved /etc/pacman.d/gnupg and made a new empty directory.
  2. Reinstalled the packages: pacman -Sy gnupg archlinux-keyring manjaro-keyring
  3. Reinitialized the keyring: pacman-key --init
  4. Load the signature keys: pacman-key --populate archlinux manjaro
  5. Update keys: pacman-key --refresh-keys

Seems the next time the archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync.timer goes off, I’m back to square one.

2

have you before retry

sudo pacman-mirrors -c all
3

I have redone my mirrors over a dozen times in a variety of different ways. (That was the first thing I tried many months ago, and even did it a few days ago.)

4

try this way

sudo pacman -Syy
sudo pacman -S archlinux-keyring manjaro-keyring
sudo pacman-key --init
sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux manjaro
sudo pacman-key --refresh-keys
5

I did that first, I forgot to include it.

Last attempts were following:

and

6

can you report

sudo pacman -Qdt
sudo pacman -Sc
7

I started another reinitialization, so I’ll have to wait a bit for that…

8

are you using wifi / bluetooth or ethernet network ?

9

Oh I can do the first one while this happens…

pacman -Qdt
alsa-card-profiles 1:0.3.67-1
asciidoctor 2.0.18-1
celt 0.11.3-6
colord-gtk 0.3.0-2
dmd 1:2.102.2-1
dub 1.31.1-1
dynamic-wallpaper-editor 2.7-2
elfutils 0.189-1
ffmpeg4.4 4.4.3-1
gfbgraph 0.2.5-1
gnome-bluetooth 3.34.5-4
gnome-shell-extension-gamemode 8-1
gnome-shell-extension-unite 70-1
go 2:1.20.2-1
itstool 1:2.0.7-1
js78 78.15.0-4
js91 91.13.0-1
kvantum-theme-matchama 20191118-1
lib32-alsa-lib 1.2.8-1
lib32-readline 8.2.001-2
libcddb 1.3.2-7
libchamplain 0.12.21-1
libcheese 43.0-1
libcroco 0.6.13-2
libdazzle 3.44.0-1
libgweather 40.0+r87+g80e5a652-2
libofa 0.9.3-9
libvisual 0.4.1-1
manjaro-gnome-extension-settings 20230109-1
matcha-gtk-theme 20221115-1
meson 1.0.1-1
metis 5.1.0.p11-1
nm-connection-editor 1.30.0-1
pugixml 1.13-1
python-appdirs 1.4.4-7
python-cssutils 2.6.0-1
python-importlib-metadata 5.0.0-3
python-nspektr 0.4.0-2
python-pydrive 1.3.1-5
python-pysmbc 1.0.23-3
python-pyxdg 0.28-1
rest 0.8.1+r4+ge5ee6ef-1
shared-color-targets 0.1.7-4
t1lib 5.1.2-8
xcursor-breeze 5.27.3-1
zita-alsa-pcmi 0.6.1-1
zita-resampler 1.10.1-1

Not that it should matter but I’ve wired my house and all my workstations with CAT6 cable. (So a mix of GigE, 2.5G, and 10G Ethernet.)

10

Soon as I start the sync service, it’s back to the same thing. =(

11

may be this issue

keep these

alsa-card-profiles 1:0.3.67-1

lib32-alsa-lib 1.2.8-1
manjaro-gnome-extension-settings 20230109-1

recheck with pactree -r :

gfbgraph 0.2.5-1
gnome-bluetooth 3.34.5-4
gnome-shell-extension-gamemode 8-1
gnome-shell-extension-unite 70-1
12

Keep those… Sure, so do nothing.
Do you mean remove the rest aside from those from pacman -Qdt?

My biggest regret is installing Steam. I was scared to remove all the dependencies it s41t all over my system, but I did try to clean much of the mess it made. I don’t even use Steam in Linux now, and do all Steam related stuff in Qemu with IOMMU/GPU passthrough in Windows now.

archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync.timer does contain:
[Install]
WantedBy=timers.target

That post is very vague.

13

What exactly is your issue?

If it’s about the service, why don’t you disable it?

systemctl disable --now archlinux-keyring-wkd-sync.timer
14

Hahah. That’s why I’ve been living with it for so long, updates seem to work fine. When I don’t want 100s of pages of log spam I disable it.

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I was laughing before because I was tired and delirious. Thanks for the tip, but yes I know how to manage services.

I thought “my issue” was apparent in the first post.