Please help with high CPU usage while browsing

Hello,

please, as the title says, I am having this issue with my new laptop. I have been using Manjaro since its beginnings, have always been amateur diy user, but now I am not able to find a solution on any of forums.

Just a short history of installations:

  • on the very first installation it all worked as a charm. It was KDE. Then I reinstalled it to adjust the partitions better and the problem already occured, even though all the partitions have more than enough required space.
    The cpu goes up while browsing and, if I understand well, it’s related to flash. But maybe I am wrong…
    I have tried changing the browsers as well; firefox, palemoon, chromium, opera, brave…

After couple of reinstallations, I decided to go back to XFCE (been using it forever and I like to have thunar root option…) , formated everything, just for the case, but the issue remained. Now, on XFCE, alongside the browser, sometimes XFCE-panel and taskmanager may go a bit up - only a few percentages, but when the cpu is already on 80-90% it is noticeable.

System: 
Kernel: 5.8.16-2-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 Distro: Manjaro Linux 
Machine:  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A317-32 v: V1.04

CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N4000 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  L2 cache: 4096 KiB 
  Speed: 1890 MHz min/max: 800/2600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1846 2: 1816 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 605 driver: i915 v: kernel 
  Device-2: Quanta VGA WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 driver: intel unloaded: modesetting 
  resolution: 1600x900~60Hz 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 600 (GLK 2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.1.8 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 38.47 GiB (4.1%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MQ04ABF100 size: 931.51 GiB 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 364.27 GiB used: 9.53 GiB (2.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 
  ID-2: /home size: 529.60 GiB used: 28.92 GiB (5.5%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda4 
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 19.53 GiB used: 28.1 MiB (0.1%) 
  dev: /dev/sda2 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 175 Uptime: 8h 02m Memory: 3.65 GiB used: 1.22 GiB (33.3%) 
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.1.05

mhwd -l
> 0000:01:00.0 (0200:10ec:8168) Network controller Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
         network-r8168            2016.04.20                true            PCI


> 0000:00:02.0 (0300:8086:3185) Display controller Intel Corporation:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
           video-linux            2018.05.04                true            PCI
     video-modesetting            2020.01.13                true            PCI
            video-vesa            2017.03.12                true            PCI

Any ideas how to solve this problem?
Thank you all!

I don’t think you can call that a new laptop, but anyway i have also such CPU on my laptop and experiencing also the same issue with any browser. I think it is just the fact the browsers today need a lot of resources especially for flash or videos. Not to forget the bloated websites, which meant to be user-friendly.

However… one solution could lower the cpu usage: Hardware acceleration.

For video:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox#Hardware_video_acceleration
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Chromium#Hardware_video_acceleration

There is also an option to do this also for general surfing the web which could decrease the cpu usage.

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lolz. It is true that I cannot afford too much, but it is still newer than the last one which did not have such issues.

But, thank you for replying! :slight_smile: I will look into your links, although hardware acceleration did not help with opera.

Anything else maybe I could do? … I am also considering installing 32bit (this laptop would support that) :thinking:

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:+1: Welcome to Manjaro! :+1:

Please read this:


and post some more information so we can see what’s really going on. Now we know the symptom of the disease, but we need some more probing to know where the origin lies…
  1. An inxi --admin --verbosity=7 --filter --no-host --width would be the minimum required information as yours just shows the bare minimum… (Personally Identifiable Information like serial numbers and MAC addresses will be filtered out by the above command)
  2. A screenshot of the top 10 processes in about:performance in Firefox would help us too.

:+1:

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I am sorry. I somehow remained noob user. It’s probably because I never had any problems with Manjaro :slight_smile:

However, today I was trying out different manjaro editions and got back to xfce again. Now, this fresh installation seems to be a bit faster but have no clue what has cause that. So I am not sure that screenshot will help any.
Opening 10 tabs made cpu usage go high up for a moment again, but this was still faster than the previous installation.
I am still afraid the same will happen again and am providing you with the details you asked. Any hint would be useful.

btw. i cannot install 32bit distro. uefi doesn’t recognize 32bit installation media (although this laptop should be able to run 32 bit OS as well)

Please also, let me know if I can provide more details from the thread you linked me.
Thanks a lot!

System:
  Kernel: 5.8.16-2-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: N/A 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.8-x86_64 
  root=UUID=e09bdf14-2011-483e-b28e-109b0632f073 rw quiet apparmor=1 
  security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.20 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 
  dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Manjaro Linux 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A317-32 v: V1.04 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: GLK model: Dopey_GL v: V1.04 serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 1.04 
  date: 11/13/2019 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 32.7 Wh condition: 35.4/36.7 Wh (96%) volts: 12.5/11.3 
  model: LG PABAS0241231 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
Memory:
  RAM: total: 3.65 GiB used: 2.56 GiB (70.1%) 
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N4000 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Goldmont Plus family: 6 model-id: 7A (122) stepping: 1 microcode: 32 
  L2 cache: 4096 KiB bogomips: 4378 
  Speed: 2484 MHz min/max: 800/2600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2487 2: 2533 
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_capabilities 
  arch_perfmon art bts cat_l2 cdp_l2 clflush clflushopt cmov constant_tsc 
  cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts ept ept_ad erms est 
  flexpriority fpu fsgsbase fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ibrs_enhanced ida intel_pt 
  lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe mpx msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl 
  nx pae pat pbe pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti 
  pts rdpid rdrand rdseed rdt_a rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep sha_ni smap smep ss 
  ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc 
  tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer tsc_known_freq umip vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic 
  xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds status: Not affected 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 605 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:3185 
  Device-2: Quanta VGA WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus ID: 1-7:5 
  chip ID: 0408:a031 serial: <filter> 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 driver: intel unloaded: modesetting 
  alternate: fbdev,vesa display ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1600x900 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 423x238mm (16.7x9.4") 
  s-diag: 485mm (19.1") 
  Monitor-1: eDP1 res: 1600x900 hz: 60 dpi: 107 size: 380x210mm (15.0x8.3") 
  diag: 434mm (17.1") 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 600 (GLK 2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.1.8 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  alternate: snd_soc_skl,snd_sof_pci bus ID: 00:0e.0 chip ID: 8086:3198 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.8.16-2-MANJARO 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 1000 
  bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
  IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter 
  vendor: Lite-On driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel port: 1000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  chip ID: 168c:0042 
  IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global 
  broadcast: <filter> 
  IP v6: <filter> type: deprecated dynamic noprefixroute scope: global 
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global 
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link 
  Device-3: Lite-On Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb 
  bus ID: 1-5:4 chip ID: 04ca:3015 
  WAN IP: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 40.19 GiB (4.3%) 
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MQ04ABF100 size: 931.51 GiB 
  block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> rev: 1J scheme: GPT 
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: HL-DT-ST model: DVDRAM GUE1N rev: 1.00 
  dev-links: cdrom 
  Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes 
  rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running 
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data was found. 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 429.69 GiB size: 421.94 GiB (98.20%) used: 8.02 GiB (1.9%) 
  fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 label: N/A 
  uuid: e09bdf14-2011-483e-b28e-109b0632f073 
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw size: 300.0 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%) 
  used: 312 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 label: N/A uuid: 10A0-5E41 
  ID-3: /home raw size: 491.77 GiB size: 483.05 GiB (98.23%) 
  used: 32.09 GiB (6.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 label: N/A 
  uuid: b688508e-77d2-40ee-bea3-3a9f67dbb18e 
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 9.77 GiB used: 79.6 MiB (0.8%) 
  priority: -2 dev: /dev/sda2 label: N/A 
  uuid: 5aaa0290-9c9e-4e4c-b67d-929f92a7d995 
Unmounted:
  Message: No unmounted partitions found. 
USB:
  Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 9 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
  chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
  Device-1: 1-4:3 info: Maxxter Wireless Optical Mouse ACT-MUSW-002 
  type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s 
  chip ID: 248a:8366 
  Device-2: 1-5:4 info: Lite-On Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Bluetooth 
  type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s 
  chip ID: 04ca:3015 
  Device-3: 1-7:5 info: Quanta VGA WebCam type: Video driver: uvcvideo 
  interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 0408:a031 serial: <filter> 
  Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 7 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s 
  chip ID: 1d6b:0003 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 53.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 184 Uptime: 4h 29m Init: systemd v: 246 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.0 
  Packages: pacman: 1125 lib: 340 flatpak: 0 Shell: Bash v: 5.0.18 
  running in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.1.05 

Luckily I asked you to provide a full inxi:

  • Upgrade your RAM, because swapping uses a lot of CPU (and CPU in wait state)
    OR
  • open less applications and run them at a lower resolution.

You’ve done already the right thing to go back to XFCE as KDE is indeed overkill for your hardware as XFCE is much lighter.

We can do a lot, but we can’t do magic…

:wink:

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agree OP should aim to upgrade to 8GB of ram.
also, newer websites are known for running a lot of java script and this can cause a lot of CPU usage.

To get around this I suggest a few standard add-ons to the firefox browser.
Add block - I use UblockOrigin
Mozilla containers - restricts social media tracking
as a last step you can play with no script it’s a great tool but can take some tweaking to get the sites you want working correctly.

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Oh gosh, thank you both a lot!!

I was so much focused on cpu and never tought the ram capacity could be a culprit.

This is now quite an easy solution :slight_smile:

Thank you for the add ons suggestions as well!

I’ve marked the below answer as the solution to your question as it is by far the best answer you’ll get.

However, if you disagree with my choice, please feel free to take any other answer as the solution to your question or even remove the solution altogether: You are in control! (If you disagree with my choice, just send me a personal message and explain why I shouldn’t have done this or :heart: or :+1: if you agree)

:innocent:
P.S. In the future, please don’t forget to come back and click the 3 dots below the answer to mark a solution like this below the answer that helped you most:
Solution
so that the next person that has the exact same problem you just had will benefit from your post as well as your question will now be in the “solved” status.

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So embarrassing! I should have done that. Was so overwhelmed and replied in a hurry :monkey_face:

Really bad first impression from my side

:joy: No worries: I do this about 3/day… (mostly with other people’s answers though…)

:grin:

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Hello everybody

I am sorry for bringing this thread to life. I was somewhat busy meanwhile, and before I finally contact acer support (I am not sure that I am allowed to upgrade ram myself, because I might lose warranty) I started doubting that the RAM is an actual problem.

The reason for that is that I was checking full inxi each time I would experience +96% of cpu usage but ram would never reach more than 40ish %. It made me think that maybe that time when ram was at 70% it was because i opened all tabs suddenly and started a video and then ran inxy in a hurry…

However, today I started with home office and am barely managing to have or god forbid participate in video call. Video turns off to save energy (And I need full image of the host because I listen to lectures have to see whats happening on the blackboard)
Then, also this morning, I installed brave browser and managed to participate in the rest of lectures, but still with some further video problem (e.g. at one point I was showing to other participants as if I were in darkness…) with the constant cpu 98-100% However, ram was maximum 45 , I ran inxi at least 10 times

Also, meanwhile, I tested the performance by removing swap and it is slightly better. I also got back to kernel 419, because I read also on this forum some members are having issues with intel drivers on 5xx

This is my full inxy today at 99%cpu with the worst ram/cpu usage:

inxi --admin --verbosity=7 --filter --no-host --width 
System:
  Kernel: 4.19.152-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.19-x86_64 
  root=UUID=9467d5d1-ef13-480a-94af-06acfe3d192b rw quiet apparmor=1 
  security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.20 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4 
  dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Manjaro Linux 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Acer product: Aspire A317-32 v: V1.04 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: GLK model: Dopey_GL v: V1.04 serial: <filter> UEFI: Insyde v: 1.04 
  date: 11/13/2019 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 30.3 Wh condition: 35.4/36.7 Wh (96%) volts: 12.3/11.3 
  model: LG PABAS0241231 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
Memory:
  RAM: total: 3.66 GiB used: 1.65 GiB (45.0%) 
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required. 
CPU:
  Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Celeron N4000 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Goldmont Plus family: 6 model-id: 7A (122) stepping: 1 microcode: 32 
  L2 cache: 4096 KiB bogomips: 4377 
  Speed: 2089 MHz min/max: 800/2600 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 2084 2: 2084 
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch acpi aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_capabilities 
  arch_perfmon art bts cat_l2 cdp_l2 clflush clflushopt cmov constant_tsc 
  cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts ept ept_ad erms est 
  flexpriority fpu fsgsbase fxsr ht ibpb ibrs ibrs_enhanced ida intel_pt 
  lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe mpx msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl 
  nx pae pat pbe pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti 
  pts rdpid rdrand rdseed rdt_a rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep sha_ni smap smep ss 
  ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc 
  tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer tsc_known_freq umip vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic 
  xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected 
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected 
  Type: mds status: Not affected 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Enhanced IBRS, IBPB: conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel UHD Graphics 605 vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: i915 
  v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:3185 
  Device-2: Quanta VGA WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo bus ID: 1-7:4 
  chip ID: 0408:a031 serial: <filter> 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 driver: intel unloaded: modesetting 
  alternate: fbdev,vesa display ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1600x900 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 423x238mm (16.7x9.4") 
  s-diag: 485mm (19.1") 
  Monitor-1: eDP1 res: 1600x900 hz: 60 dpi: 107 size: 380x210mm (15.0x8.3") 
  diag: 434mm (17.1") 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel UHD Graphics 600 (GLK 2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.1.8 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Celeron/Pentium Silver Processor High Definition Audio 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  bus ID: 00:0e.0 chip ID: 8086:3198 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k4.19.152-1-MANJARO 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Acer Incorporated ALI driver: r8169 v: kernel port: 1000 
  bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10ec:8168 
  IF: enp1s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter 
  vendor: Lite-On driver: ath10k_pci v: kernel port: 1000 bus ID: 02:00.0 
  chip ID: 168c:0042 
  IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global 
  broadcast: <filter> 
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global 
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link 
  Device-3: Lite-On Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb 
  bus ID: 1-5:3 chip ID: 04ca:3015 
  WAN IP: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 931.51 GiB used: 43.80 GiB (4.7%) 
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: MQ04ABF100 size: 931.51 GiB 
  block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s 
  rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> rev: 1J scheme: GPT 
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: HL-DT-ST model: DVDRAM GUE1N rev: 1.00 
  dev-links: cdrom 
  Features: speed: 24 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes 
  rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running 
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data was found. 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: 434.57 GiB size: 426.75 GiB (98.20%) used: 8.97 GiB (2.1%) 
  fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 label: N/A 
  uuid: 9467d5d1-ef13-480a-94af-06acfe3d192b 
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw size: 300.0 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%) 
  used: 312 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 label: N/A uuid: EF02-B83E 
  ID-3: /home raw size: 491.77 GiB size: 483.05 GiB (98.23%) 
  used: 34.83 GiB (7.2%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 label: N/A 
  uuid: b688508e-77d2-40ee-bea3-3a9f67dbb18e 
Swap:
  Alert: No Swap data was found. 
Unmounted:
  Message: No unmounted partitions found. 
USB:
  Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 9 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s 
  chip ID: 1d6b:0002 
  Device-1: 1-4:2 info: Maxxter Wireless Optical Mouse ACT-MUSW-002 
  type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s 
  chip ID: 248a:8366 
  Device-2: 1-5:3 info: Lite-On Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Bluetooth 
  type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s 
  chip ID: 04ca:3015 
  Device-3: 1-7:4 info: Quanta VGA WebCam type: Video driver: uvcvideo 
  interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 0408:a031 serial: <filter> 
  Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 7 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s 
  chip ID: 1d6b:0003 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 63.0 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A 
Info:
  Processes: 165 Uptime: 4h 12m Init: systemd v: 246 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.0 
  Packages: pacman: 1177 lib: 342 flatpak: 0 Shell: Bash v: 5.0.18 
  running in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.1.05 

So my questions are;

  • (Again, I am sorry but) - Is this really a RAM related problem ?
  • Is it normal that this quality level processor causes such huge issues with video calls and flash (with 0-2 other tabs opened?)
  • Could anyone please link me how can I make my uefi recognize 32bit installation media, because I’d like to try with 32bit manajro xfce version
  • Could it be more severe issue and I shoud use my warranty?

Thank you again!!

  • Solution removed
  • Good luck!

:man_shrugging:

Hi :slight_smile:
Thanks again.
I didn’t want to remove it until 100% sure.

Keeping my fingers crossed :slight_smile:

First of all: Don’t panic when things don’t go as you like :wink:

If your laptop is able to run 64bit you should always prefer that. Because your CPU will be able to perform operations more efficiently.

Don’t disable swap because the swap is helping with memory needs when it is needed.

Instead of those browsers you mentioned, try to use the FireFox browser with some addons to block unwanted stuff.
I would suggest uMatrix as a starter, you might need to manually allow certain domains while browsing the site for your video’s but it will give you full power of what scripts are allowed on which sites.

Try to open htop in a separate window to monitor which processes are using your CPU the most.
When you have found the one using most CPU, post it so people may suggest solutions better.

Don’t expect top performance on such an old hardware though.

PS:
Your /boot/efi partition is almost overflowing, way too full for only manjaro

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Oof, a Celery. I don’t know what they’re like nowadays, but 10+ years ago, Celerons had pretty pitiful onboard cache, which made multitasking unbearable.

Sadly, your pain is not unique. The modern web is a trash heap of crappy frameworks and all kinds of mangled JS.

I’m sorry, but there’s no fix, other than to:

  • Stay away from slow websites
  • Get a faster machine
  • Kidnap the world’s IT managers and force them to tell their coders to write clean code, and to do ALL of their QC on Celerons, or Raspberry Pis.
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Hello!

Thank you for your response.
I will try to add suggested addons and report back on wednesday, when I again have full time lectures…

Just shortly want to say, since the last suggestions unti this morning I only had firefox with the addons previously advised. However, after even less than hour cpu freaked from ~60% to +95 and coused mentioned problems.

I can easily have back my swap, I left enough free space.

…the processes which are using cpu the most are mostly tabs (although sometimes it seems there are more of them listed than the actual number. even after clearing the cache/cookies). with video meeting (webex) - cca 40%
sometimes xfce-panel goes “mad” up to 20%

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May I just ask a question regarding your PS note. If the boot/efi partition it’s “way too full for only manjaro”, what could be cause for that? maybe there is a clue

… It’s not a problem for me to adjust boot/efi partition, but it was waay much bigger before and there was no much difference in performance. Actually, at this point, my laptop is fastest than ever :confused:

ps. ok, I get it, I bought hardware metusalem. However, my previous acer was even older and and had grey hair but did not cause such issues at all, even during zoom calls and paralel browsing… bought the “new” one only because the graphic card was slowly dying…

haha I like the spirit :smiley:
it’s a bummer, but thanks for being that open.

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I am still searching a way to install 32bit here. maybe I could gift this to my grandma :frowning:

The fullness of the ESP will not impact performance at all because it is only used to boot from tour UEFI Bios…
You can check by just listing the contents of it using tree for example…

When I mentioned to monitor which processes used the most CPU I was talking about all processes on you machine not just those of the browser.
If the high CPU usage is only while using the browser on certain websites there is not much to do except use a different website with less boatware in the background.
(Some sites perform crypto-mining in background without the users approval)

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Have you tried the FF extension “Tab Suspender?” It can help by basically converting tabs you’re not actively using into basically temporary bookmarks, which will re-open the page with just a click.

It can help a lot with pages that are using a ton of CPU/RAM, or if you’re just lazy and don’t want to clear out your tabs YET, but still want some decent performance.

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