"pacman -Qtdq | pacman -Rns -" detect way too many orphans (5GB)

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$ sudo pacman -Qtdq | sudo pacman -Rns - control of dependencies in progress... :: btrfs-progs optionally requires reiserfsprogs: btrfs-convert :: colord optionally requires colord-sane: SANE support :: gnupg optionally requires libusb-compat: scdaemon :: gnupg optionally requires pcsclite: scdaemon :: gnutls optionally requires guile: for use with Guile bindings :: imagemagick optionally requires djvulibre: DJVU support :: jasper optionally requires freeglut: jiv support :: jasper optionally requires glu: jiv support :: jre-openjdk optionally requires gtk2: for the Gtk+ 2 look and feel - desktop usage :: kauth optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kcodecs optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kcompletion optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kconfig optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kconfigwidgets optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kcoreaddons optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kdbusaddons optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kguiaddons optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: ki18n optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kio optionally requires kio-extras: extra protocols support (sftp, fish and more) :: kio optionally requires kdoctools: for the help kioslave :: kio optionally requires knetattach: to add new kio-remote entries :: kitemmodels optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kitemviews optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kjobwidgets optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: kwidgetsaddons optionally requires python-pyqt5: for the Python bindings :: libcanberra optionally requires libcanberra-pulse: PulseAudio driver :: libcanberra optionally requires libcanberra-gstreamer: GStreamer driver :: libsamplerate optionally requires libsndfile.so: for sndfile-resample :: libtiff optionally requires freeglut: for using tiffgt :: libwebp optionally requires freeglut: vwebp viewer :: mjpegtools optionally requires gtk2: glav GUI :: openssh optionally requires xorg-xauth: X11 forwarding :: pacman optionally requires vim: default merge program for pacdiff :: pinentry optionally requires gtk2: gtk2 backend :: plasma-nm optionally requires openconnect: Cisco AnyConnect VPN plugin :: plasma-workspace optionally requires baloo: Baloo search runner :: pulseaudio optionally requires pulseaudio-alsa: ALSA configuration (recommended) :: python optionally requires python-pip :: sth. optionally requires pkcs11-helper: PKCS-11 plugin :: qt5-tools optionally requires qt5-webkit: for Qt Assistant :: system-config-printer optionally requires python-pysmbc: SMB browser support :: system-config-printer optionally requires cups-pk-helper: PolicyKit helper to configure cups with fine-grained privileges :: systemd optionally requires libmicrohttpd: remote journald capabilities :: systemd optionally requires systemd-sysvcompat: symlink package to provide sysvinit binaries :: udisks2 optionally requires ntfs-3g: NTFS filesystem management support :: vlc optionally requires protobuf: chromecast streaming :: vlc optionally requires lirc: lirc control :: xorg-xrdb optionally requires gcc: for preprocessing attention: manjaro-system is present in HoldPkg. :: HoldPkg has been found in the package list. 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[y/N] y Packages (515) accounts-qml-module-0.7-3  accountsservice-0.6.55-3  alsa-firmware-1.2.1-2                 alsa-oss-1.1.8-3  alsa-plugins-1:1.2.2-2  alsa-utils-1.2.3-2  augeas-1.12.0-2                 baloo-5.74.0-1  baloo-widgets-20.08.1-1  binutils-2.35-2                 breath2-icon-themes-1.0.10-2  breath2-wallpaper-1.0.10-2  bridge-utils-1.7-1                 brltty-6.0-11  cfitsio-1:3.49-1  clucene-2.3.3.4-11  colord-sane-1.4.4+9+g1ce26da-2                 confuse-3.3-1  containerd-1.4.1-1  convertlit-1.8-10  cpio-2.13-2  cracklib-2.9.7-2                 cronie-1.5.5-1  cups-2.3.3-3  cups-filters-1.28.3-1  cups-pdf-3.0.1-5                 cups-pk-helper-0.2.6-4  debootstrap-1.0.123-1  dhcpcd-9.2.0-1  diffutils-3.7-3                 ding-libs-0.6.1-3  discount-2.2.7-1  djvulibre-3.5.27-6  dkms-2.8.3-1.1                 docbook-xml-4.5-9  docbook-xsl-1.79.2-7  dolphin-20.08.1-1  ebook-tools-0.2.2-7                 elfutils-0.181-1  enchant-2.2.10-1  exfat-utils-1.3.0-2  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All started from when I removed virt-manager without dependencies:

pacman -R virt-manager

So I did:

pacman -Qtdq | pacman -Rns -

and it correctly displayed the dependencies.

But then I installed it again:

pacman -S virt-manager

and then if I do:

pacman -Qtdq | pacman -Rns -

I got the problem. I’m stuck.

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Please edit your post - it is unreadable

use code fence ``` on separate lines or indent lines by 4 spaces.

Or use the </> button in the toolbar

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Well … whats pacman -Qtdq show ?

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$ sudo pacman -Qtdq
[sudo] password di allexj: 
acpi
acpid
amd-ucode
android-tools
android-udev
appimagelauncher
ark
autoconf-archive
b43-fwcutter
bison
bolt
cantata
chromium
clutter-gst
cmake
colord-gtk
cpupower
ctags
discord
dleyna-renderer
docker
dolphin-plugins
ecryptfs-utils
exempi
fakeroot
filelight
firefox
flatpak-builder
flex
folks
frei0r-plugins
fwupd
gegl
gjs
gmime3
gnome-autoar
gnome-bluetooth
gnome-desktop
gnome-epub-thumbnailer
gnome-icon-theme
gnome-online-miners
gom
grub-theme-manjaro
gsound
gspell
gst-plugin-gtk
gtkmm3
gwenview
htop
intltool
inxi
ipython
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sudo pacman -Qtdq would list orphans and dependencies

pacman -Q --help

-d, --deps           list packages installed as dependencies [filter]

-t, --unrequired     list packages not (optionally) required by any
                       package (-tt to ignore optdepends) [filter]

So using a pipe for this command to a pacman -R command may be trying to delete all dependencies and orphans instead of just orphans

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You don’t need sudo to do that.

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I was quoting from the previous post
There are lot of packages listed that could not be orphans but I can see cmake and meson which would typically be orphans
I just checked if sudo may have had an effect on the command but I get the same list of files that is also shown with pamac list -oq

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but these are NOT orphans… there are A LOT of SYSTEM packages… they are not supposed to be orphans…

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Many of your listed packages (if not all) are usually installed explicit and should not show up when “-d” option is used - which shows packages installed as dependency.

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Output of:

pacman -Qe?

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# pacman -Qe
gnome-boxes 3.36.6-1

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Well, @allexj you’ve got some issue here (to put it mildly).

I see four ways you can proceed…

  1. LITFA™ (leave it the frakk alone) and go about your business.

  2. Work backwards thru your pacman log and manually reverse any changes. Look for these types of entries:

[2020-07-29T23:16:27-0400] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -D --asexplicit fzf'

  1. Bite the bullet and reinstall.

  2. I guess you might be able pipe the output of your current pacman -Qdtq to a pacman -D --asexplicit command (don’t know, never tried). Downside is that everything you have installed will be marked explicit, and when you remove a package, the deps installed with it will not be removed.

Maybe next time you’ll check a commands’ output before you pipe it to some other command. It’ll save you some headaches.

Pro tip…add --print to the tail end of any pacman command, and it will just print out the list of what it (pacman) is going to do.

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I guess you have wrong interpreted this Arch wiki page, @allexj

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Tips_and_tricks#Removing_unused_packages_(orphans)

and applied

# pacman -D --asdeps $(pacman -Qqe)

This is hard to fix. :man_shrugging:

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yes… you are right… I did something stupid.

Now I did: sudo pacman -Qtdq | sudo pacman -D --asexplicit - ad it apparently “fixed” the issue, but I guess that there will be some other problems with it?

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Well, you can check…scripters can jump in; I’m not a coder.

  1. pacman -Qe > ~/current_exp.txt
  2. Copy the list from your post #4 and save it as ~/foobar_exp.txt
  3. Diff those 2 files.

Now the fun part…

  1. That list in your OP will need some editing. Get that, fix it up and save it as ~/forum_op.txt
  2. Diff that against ~/current_exp.txt. Anything ONLY existing ~/forum_op.txt is most likely a dependency of some package. However, if you borked your pacman database, you probably won’t be able to use pacman to determine orphans.
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what’s the purpose of the first 3 steps if the operation in itself is in the 4th and 5th step?

so if I have understood, I should take the output of the FIRST post (the thread), edit it and put it in a txt (forum_op.txt) and diff it with current_exp.txt… and the lines that exist ONLY in forum_op, are dependencies and I should mark them with pacman -D --asdeps deps.txt ?

However, if you borked your pacman database, you probably won’t be able to use pacman to determine orphans.

what you mean? so this problem can’t be fixed?

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Step one takes the output of pacman and prints the output to a file.

Step 2 is pretty self explanatory.

The third step is to verify your piped command (post 4 was an output of -Qtdq, prior to this) actually re-marked all those packages as explicit.

The final 2 steps check your original post against the file from step 1. For example: in OP there is a package rubberband that is not in post 4.

If just one of those files in post 4 was an actual orphan…it’s now marked as explicitly installed.

As an aside…in OP I saw that timeshift was listed. Why didn’t you roll back?

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I still don’t have very clear the purpose of foobar_exp.txt.

Btw, what I did is:
diff current_exp.txt with forum_op.txt and the lines that ARE IN forum_op BUT NOT in current_exp, I saved them in a txt file.

Then I did:
cat file.txt | sudo pacman -D --asdeps $(tee)

But else should I do? What to do with foorbar_exp?

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It was for an intermediate check. Nothing more. Nuke it from orbit. :slight_smile:

Run a pacman -Qqdt and see if it outputs any orphans.

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$ pacman -Qqdt
man-pages
virt-viewer

So it’s basically fixed? :smiley: or not?