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Just register, edit the page, wait for nobody validating anything (OK I’m exaggerating, in a couple month probably someone will have looked at it).

not only this page
ex: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Block_Lists_for_Deluge_%26_qBittorrent/en#See_Also
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/System_Maintenance/en#See_Also


Why i can’t found “archived” links here :frowning: EDIT ok, is in manjaro.org so no external …

Considering there are 6 Active Wiki Users (1 moderator, 3 translators, 2 bots), posting on the forum gets a faster response (previous post reporting a typographical error was reported and resolved very quickly)

The Wiki category is a category in which you can report any wrong, missing, out-of-date wiki content or suggest any idea about the wiki.

Reporting via forum is also more open, so forum users can validate, rebut, or obfuscate comments,
or maybe suggest a replacement URL so the moderator can update page with minimal delay

I found an external links search page on Wiki that shows more links to archived forum
Manjaro Wiki - Special Pages - External links search - https://archived.forum.manjaro.org

The pages mentioned in your post have been been edited to remove outdated links
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This one has a dead link, and the solution “.profile” is no longer valid/needs extra steps.
replacing with
.xprofile

or editing:

#
# ~/.bash_profile
#

[[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc
[[ -f ~/.profile ]] && . ~/.profile

As i started with manjaro, i skimmed through the wiki and then looked at the forum tutorials. The wiki is nowadays pretty much useless in the everyday life of the average user, just like the pdf manual before that. It is just not maintained. The forum has more information, BUT the search engine is terrible, so one is actually better off using an external search engine like google or duckduckgo with site:… tag.
3 notable exceptions, that still make the wiki important, those pages are up to date and not covered in the forum and often linked, so the otherwise useless wiki has to stay because of these 3 tutorials (until someone migrates them to the forum):

How so? Just stating it doesn’t make it believable.

OK, the word useless was a bit rude, sorry. I just meant there are many articles that were not touched since years and need updating. Wrong links, old screenshots, new infos missing, like the above mentioned examples of the QT variable, since it has to now be added how to source the .profile because it is not sourced by default anymore. As i mentioned in this tutorial.
It just is a lot of work to make it correct again. I considered volunteering, but i just do not have the spare time for it, unfortunately.

You mean ~/.bash_profile instead of ~/.xinitrc @banjo banjo?
Not than it would not work that way too, but editing the small .bash_profile may be less intimidating for new users. At least on xfce that it, i am not sure if the other DEs use bash.

Both is possible, whatever ones preference is. Also systemwide sölutions could be mentioned, but I prefer outside root, if possible.

Oooopsi, now I see, should be .xprofile

Then if you see issues in the WIKI report it in this section, I guess, people with time may correct it. Anyway if people have no time to edit the WIKI, they have no time to answer the forum so the problem is the same, the forum can “supersede the WIKI” (from what you say) only because people chose to spend the time on the forum instead of the WIKI. SO the issue could be the people, not the WIKI.

Hmm, on what DE are you actually banjo? I do not have .Xprofile (by default) on my xfce. And i wonder if it will be appropriate if one uses Wayland. No idea.

It is indeed Omano. I have some time, but not for both and so far i just chose the forum. I will skim the wiki again to at least pinpoint what bothers me.

Ok, first glance at the first section of the wiki

  • it mentions sourceforge for getting the sums
    About Manjaro - Manjaro
  • you know what i think for the marketing talk for beginners. Also, it mentions manjaro architect, i am not quite sure it is actively developed anymore. The recommended requirement of 4GB ram is very disputable. The development build link is to OSDN.
    Manjaro FAQ - Manjaro
  • it boots with 200RAM? a zero is lost somewhere in translation. And it has to be mentioned AUR is unsupported and why. And you HAVE to register to post in the forum. And i think we had recently a discussion about Kilimanjaro not being the inspiration…
    Manjaro:A Different Kind of Beast - Manjaro
  • this is at least recently updated, but again, those newcomers…, and, it is correct to mention that a lot of packages are coming from arch. The pamac screenshot shows an older version. very old.
    Using Manjaro for Beginners - Manjaro
  • old pamac screenshot here. The kernel section can be elaborated with how to choose kernel, esp when the menu is hidden. AUR - again, a prominent note it is unsupported an WHY is needed, although it is in the linked article
    Burn an ISO File - Manjaro
  • this can mention ventoy, and link to the hash checks. Maybe even say something about bios and csm and uefi
    Download Manjaro - Manjaro
  • mentions osdn again, the listed community editions - i think some are not supported anymore and a note is needed that they are not official and can be abandoned anytime and beginner users are discouraged to use them
    Manjaro Online - Manjaro
  • are all those channels supported officially - the facebook and twitter entries are years ago…

I use Xfce, you are possibly right, at some point I generated .xprofile for some xset command.

And wayland users, do they even use bash ? We will maybe need extra info for zsh etc…

Yes i think the default for kde is zsh.

Actually, when i look at the wiki now, it is a lot better than i remember since i visited some time in 2023. And i see timestamps of many edits in the last year. So somebody worked on it. So i take my words back. It needs some corrections and polishing, but is still useful.

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