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Well, for example, Manjaro is holding back packages or Pamac is often broken.

Thanks for the link, I can’t stop reading, even though I usually start there: Manjaro

Thanks to the great forum and the wiki, I’m convinced I won’t have to ask any technical questions.

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Only if they are known to break things. Unlike Arch, Endeavour OS, Garuda, or any other rolling-release distribution for that matter, Manjaro is a curated rolling-release distribution. :wink:

Um, okay, you have a point there. :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

But then again, nobody says that you have to use pamac, and especially not for system updates. We advise people to use pacman for that. :wink:

P.S.: Don’t believe everything you read on Reddit, and especially not if it’s about Manjaro. :wink:

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You will not regret it. We have Manjaro on all our our home devices (laptops) and never had issues with held packages, broken Pamac (use pacman and all runs fine) or anything else.
Pamac is running on our devices only to notify us about updates. These are then installed via pacman or yay (if required)

It simply…hm… works?

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Since I’m CLI-savvy, I generally use the Arch package manager.
As tools, Paru and the Pacseek TUI are perfectly adequate.

Prejudices and rumors, once spread, perhaps by disappointed former Manjaro users, persist almost forever.

If you search for information in Arch forums or the Arch Wiki, the search engine will also spit out Reddit posts.

With a bit of luck, you might find solutions there too. But I’m by no means a fan of this platform.

Conclusion: I’ll be buying an external SSD in the next few days and seeing for myself how this long-standing, curated OS works.

Regarding the design, I have completely different ideas, but more on that later.

Thanks for the warm welcome.

@Pille, as a newbie, I can’t answer you directly.

It simply…hm… works?

Yes, I’m convinced of that!

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My wife is a noob in terms of IT skills. She is focussed on other stuff, because she has the IT supporter at home.
And believe me, if it would not work on her device, i would be immediately in serious trouble. :rofl:

Exactly the same thing here :rofl:

She’s understood that the easiest way to use her system is the terminal, which appears after booting.
So far, there haven’t been any complaints, except for the usual: package is newer than or 404 errors. But she can handle those, too.

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I have not had any issues with the pamac GUI since I started using Manjaro in 2022.

My personal policy is use the pamac GUI, unless something goes wrong (and for me nothing has) so I can be prepared for issues when my partner, who has no interest in learning the CLI, has problems updating.

I have AUR and Flatpacs enabled. It’s rare that I don’t use Pamac GUI.

Yeah, me too.

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Oh, then it’s more than mine. She only yells at me once pamac comes with the notification that updates can be installed: “There is an update available!!!”

Then i have to stop all i am doing right now and work on her update with priority one.

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One concept: SSH

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You should have used Manjaro in 2021 :rofl:

Joking aside, of course you know how to use the Software Center. I have no doubt about that.

My personal policy is to approach things with Pacman and Paru. It’s Arch, to each their own.

@Pille, @Tracyanne, my partner seems to be a bit more mellow :grin:

My partner does her own updates, using the GUI. She only yells when thing don’t go as expected, fortunately that’s not often… and usually it’s something she did… the old fingerpokenproblem, but it’s rare that she will concede that, that might have been the cause of the problem.

I had to laugh at this.

Even in these modern times of fake news, the somewhat rhetorical “Ain’t that the truth…” seems appropriate. :smile_cat:

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The problem i have that it is always my fault, even if i am miles away and did nothing. That’s a valid statement for everything in our house. Dishwasher making strange noise (i only fill it up, but never operate it)? my fault… the clothes from the washing machine came out in a different color (i never touched the device in 10 years)? my fault… the food is too spicy (I cannot cook)? my fault…

I think many feel the pain as well :rofl:

Apart from that it is known that 90% of the problems are sitting in a chair in front of the computer. especially the higher the IT skills of the person are.

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Ah, but always remember… you signed-up for this.
Did you forgot to read the fine print?! :crazy_face: :heart_eyes:

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Yes, I know that from other couples :grin:

M̶a̶̶y̶̶b̶̶e̶ ̶y̶̶o̶̶u̶ ̶s̶h̶̶o̶̶u̶̶l̶̶d̶̶̶n̶̶t̶ ̶h̶̶a̶̶v̶̶e̶ ̶m̶̶a̶̶r̶̶r̶̶i̶̶e̶̶d̶ ̶h̶̶e̶̶r̶ We’ve been unmarried for almost 40 years (both of us).
Maybe that’s why we treat each other with respect?

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Of course I do, but then again it should be easy to use and I believe it is. My partner asked a few questions about what things mean, but she has no problems using it, except once, and that was an update issue, with a slow to update repository. I walked her through fixing that.

Good GUI tools should introduce people to the system in a more controlled way. They can learn about the ‘more esoteric’ tools at their own speed.

Fortunately for me my introduction to Linux was via Mandrake, and because of that I was given the time to come to terms with the more powerful parts of Linux at my leisure, it made the transition from Windows much easier.

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Yes, it is. I’m not denying that.

It’s just that, as an Arch user, I want to enjoy the freedom to stick to my habits.

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On any Linux System, having an excellent GUI toolset, doesn’t stop anyone from continuing to use the CLI toolset.

But not having an excellent GUI toolset does make it harder for someone to transition from something that doesn’t do CLI well.

Personally, I’m lazy, and if I can do the job with one hand and a Mouse, I choose that, leaves my other hand free for my Coffee.

Seriously, even when I’m using the CLI I copy paste commands from a text file.

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Update

Manjaro delivers on its promise: it’s especially suitable for those new to Linux.
The Calamares installation is self-explanatory, the default settings are well chosen, and the package manager takes care of everything else.

Example image:

Why is the minimal installation 3.5 GB in size?
I would have expected two GB less for the result :slightly_smiling_face:

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I assume you didn’t get it right

We have the most respect to each other. It’s more like a non-serious game. I think that’s a valid point for all couples. Otherwise they won’t be married any longer. If that topic starts getting serious, it is time for changing the relationship