I have been using Manjaro xfce on my laptop for a few months now everything has been fine, but recently I have noticed that the laptop becomes very hot in a very short time and sometimes when using browser while installing a program the system freezes. I tried to monitor the cpu usage in task manager but nothing seemed un unusual. Is that a problemin the OS or the hardware itself?
Note:
My laptop is powered by AMD cpu
Hello and welcome,
Something has changed and you should more or less know what is that, or asociate it with something, so it can be investigated.
We need a more detailed one, more of a technical description. To know what that means, see this:
I can’t recall a specific thing but I think it’s has to do with one of the updates I had installed
thank you for your help here’s what appeared to me
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System:
Kernel: 5.4.67-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4-x86_64
root=UUID=5bec84ef-50c6-442c-8afd-360b048af538 rw quiet apparmor=1
security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 tk: Gtk 3.24.20 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm4
dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: HP product: HP 255 G6 Notebook PC
v: Type1ProductConfigId serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter>
Mobo: HP model: 8330 v: 27.35 serial: <filter> UEFI [Legacy]: Insyde v: F.51
date: 05/31/2019
Battery:
ID-1: BAT1 charge: 11.9 Wh condition: 25.8/31.1 Wh (83%) volts: 11.8/10.9
model: Hewlett-Packard PABAS0241231 type: Li-ion serial: <filter>
status: Charging
CPU:
Topology: Dual Core model: AMD E2-9000e RADEON R2 4 COMPUTE CORES 2C+2G
bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Excavator family: 15 (21) model-id: 70 (112)
stepping: N/A microcode: 6006705 L2 cache: 1024 KiB
flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
bogomips: 5990
Speed: 1094 MHz min/max: 1100/1500 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz):
1: 1106 2: 1417
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
Type: l1tf status: Not affected
Type: mds status: Not affected
Type: meltdown status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1
mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full AMD retpoline, IBPB: conditional, STIBP:
disabled, RSB filling
Type: srbds status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Stoney [Radeon R2/R3/R4/R5 Graphics] vendor: Hewlett-Packard
driver: amdgpu v: kernel bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:98e4
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 driver: amdgpu,ati unloaded: modesetting
alternate: fbdev,vesa display ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0")
s-diag: 414mm (16.3")
Monitor-1: eDP res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 101 size: 344x194mm (13.5x7.6")
diag: 395mm (15.5")
OpenGL: renderer: AMD STONEY (DRM 3.35.0 5.4.67-1-MANJARO LLVM 10.0.1)
v: 4.5 Mesa 20.1.8 direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: AMD vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
bus ID: 00:01.1 chip ID: 1002:15b3
Device-2: AMD Family 15h Audio vendor: Hewlett-Packard driver: snd_hda_intel
v: kernel bus ID: 00:09.2 chip ID: 1022:157a
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.67-1-MANJARO
Network:
Device-1: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak] driver: iwlwifi
v: kernel port: 3100 bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 8086:24fb
IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 465.76 GiB used: 86.56 GiB (18.6%)
SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST500LT012-1DG142 size: 465.76 GiB
block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
rotation: 5400 rpm serial: <filter> rev: YAM1 scheme: MBR
Partition:
ID-1: / raw size: 146.49 GiB size: 143.19 GiB (97.75%)
used: 86.56 GiB (60.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
Swap:
Alert: No Swap data was found.
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: 20.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 52 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:
Processes: 215 Uptime: 22m Memory: 3.73 GiB used: 2.63 GiB (70.4%)
Init: systemd v: 246 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.0 Packages: 1244 pacman: 1226
lib: 328 flatpak: 8 snap: 10 Shell: Bash v: 5.0.18
running in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.1.05
```I am not sure if I even have any fans! I never heard a sound from it since I bought this laptop. there isn’t even a fan related settings in the bios or anywhere else!
I don’t know what is TLP?
The freezeing could be caused by the combination of having only 4 GiB memory and no swap partition or swap file. Even if you do not intend to hibernate you should use a small swap file or partition, I would say of at least 2 GiB. It’s easy to implement it, just look into the wiki.
I check system temperatures by the simple command
sensors
I would check if this provides usable output in your case as well. If you really have no air blower (fan) than I would check temperatures from time to time.
I am having the same issue here.
My laptop is an intel i5 which used to run perfectly well some games [i used to use elementary os].
After i installed manjaro, it gets 1) very hot (temperature reaching 100c when running a heavy browser game), 2) very slow, and 3)CPU at high capacity.
I have read so much about all kinds of possible solutions dealing with cooling fans on my laptop (supposedly thats the issue? [specially because heat+i cant hear the cooling fan work]), but absolutely nothing works.
I have tried changing kernels (installing it, on boot screen changing the one Im going to use, etc.), didnt work.
I have tried TLP, POWERTOP, LMSENSORS, PWMCPONFIG, everything.
At PWMCONFIG, i reach a point where it says: “/usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed”. I have tried a possible solution (" fancontrol-under-ubuntu-14-04-resolving-usrsbinpwmconfig-there-are-no-pwm-capable-sensor-modules-installed "), didnt work to.
MY elementary os (in the another partition) got slow as well after this issue arrived.
I have tried to fix it in elementary os, but got nothing new too.
Is it due to manjaro not ‘‘geting my cooler to work’’?
COuld it be a coincidental hardware issue? (for instance, laptop fan suddenly not working…?) PS: I cant see if it works, I dont know how to open a laptop and I think this is not a likely scenario.
This is a very important finding. Only 4 GB of RAM with zero swap is very tight. Especially when considering your use case:
You should consider to create swap on your system.
Thank you, I made a 500MB swap partition hopefully this will solve the freezing problem.
When I checked the temperature as you said it was 53°C but I don’t know what caues it to be that high, it didn’t heat up like that when I was using windows 10. The main reason I choosed xfce is that it’s light weight and won’t consume much of the resources and it did at first. Something surely went wrong but I am not sure what is it.
That’s not enough: with only 4GB ram your swap should be at least 8GB.
OP has a hdd!! If more than 2 GiB swap are in use it will feel like the system is totally frozen… IMHO this won’t be very helpful. 
But I agree, 500 MiB is probably not enough.
Ok, if that’s the case I will resize it to 2GB. Is there’s anything else I should do?
This temperature would be no issue at all, my system (with fan) has a similar temperature.
Thank you for your help, I will Consider this the solution. I think this solved the problem for me.
Wollie could you help me regarding my similar issue?
thank you
I can try - but please open your own thread.
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