KDE Plasma 5.26.x Stability Inquiry

Try creating newuser first.

Jumping the gun here a bit, maybe, but for info, after the latest update to 5.26.3 no hitchesā€¦everything seems to be A-OK(stable?) after an equally uneventful reboot.

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Hello there :slightly_smiling_face:
I realised that if I move windows around with the meta key in order to quick tile them, the windows get frozen and text gets a little bit blurred (happens to all applications and on different screens). If I move a window with meta + left/right to the left or right side of the screen there is actually no issue. The issue occurs if I divide the screen into four or when I split the screen horizontally.
It is possible to ā€œrecoverā€ the frozen window if I drag it a little bit with the mouse or by meta + left for example. If I drag the window to the preffered size/position manually, I also didnā€™t faced any issues as well.
I noticed it since 2 releases (not 100% sure) and currently running KDE plasma version 5.26.3. Didnā€™t found this behaviour described anywhere.
Is there anything to troubleshoot or could you recommend watching any logs? Anything else I can do?

Have a great evening!

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Most issues are migration from older Plasma installs. Those scripts to update settings mostly donā€™t work properly. So create a new user with fresh settings and see if it is still an issue. You can also test a new ISO with 5.26.3 preinstalled: Release 202211150747 Ā· manjaro/release-review Ā· GitHub

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Another dissatisfied 5.26.3 customerā€¦ :arrow_down:

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ā€¦Some seemingly have the luck of the Irishā€¦and others not, alasā€¦! :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

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I donā€™t think it plasma 5.26 is at level of maturity that 5.24 provides. I still have couple of broken 3rd party widgets (donā€™t know which is to blame here), and get some random plasma crashes while playing video, though the frequency is much less than what was the case with 5.25. I think 5.24 was just a high point in terms of stability with multiple past releases mostly focussing on bug fixes and refining the experience, instead of major rewrites and addition of new features

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Iā€™m sure KDEā€™s dev team will iron things out, and, then, weā€™ll pass on toā€¦5.27 :slightly_smiling_face:

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Yes, all will be fixed by 2028ā€¦ :crazy_face:

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ā€¦And, after that - yupee! - thereā€™s Plasma 6.0 inā€¦2023ā€¦ :face_with_hand_over_mouth: Could this be the beginning of another serial(killer?)ā€¦? :worried:

Maybe Iā€™m being unfair - Iā€™ll be positive ! - and there will only be a series of none-connected incidents along the lineā€¦or, perhaps, not!..? :thinking:

@Aragorn. I think youā€™re being ridiculous now. 2028? :face_with_raised_eyebrow: You know itā€™ll take them longer than six years. Come on. Maybe 2032.

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Potential trouble on the way for those of us who chose to stay with 5.24 LTSā€¦ :arrow_down:

This is from todayā€™s announcement thread for the updates to the Testing branch.

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5.24 LTS has no problem on my computer running current Testing with KDE framework 5.100, so it should be no issue for anybody I thinkā€¦
Cheers ! :wink:

Eddy

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Oh man. I so hope you are correct.

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I am correct, even my second install with Debian unstable/SID has no problems with the same setup ! :grin:
Cheers,

Eddy

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Hi All,

I am also experiencing similar issues with missing system tray icons etcā€¦ wondering if there is final fix for to this problem please?

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yakuake

Although my system is still running without a hitch, this might be related:

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Yes same here.

I am using:
KDE Plasma 5.26.3
KDE Framework 5.99.0
Kernel 5.19.17-2-MANJARO

Hardware is a Lenovo L14 Gen 1 AMD, so with Radeon Graphics inside, also Multimonitor Setup. Two external Displays, one via USB-C Hub and one via HDMI.
Have the same problems sind appr. 1-2 Weeks. Notofications go to a black rectangle and the whole Desktop seems to crash.
Is there any guide how to downgrade to something less buggy?

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Yes, there is, albeit with a couple of caveats, such as that we donā€™t know how much longer this will work, given that nobodyā€™s willing to maintain the LTS release packages.

But had you read through the whole thread, then you would have already found the workaround. :arrow_down:

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Yes i have read this now, but that really doesnt look like a very appealing approach.
At least i have found out that it is possible to restart the plasmashell by posting kquitapp5 plasmashell && plasmashell into the krunner menu, so i dont have to reboot once a day.

Hope that issues get fixed quite fast by the KDE Team.