Is it just me, or is Manjaro XFCE using more RAM lately?

Hello, no it’s not just you, thanks for posting I was wondering where to post then found this thread. I have been religiously running HTOP after every reboot for about a year now then keeping it open to monitor, my ram usage jumped exactly after the last stable update. No other changes. Previously it would always start fresh around 600MB (or I now gather it’s actually MiB,

it now starts at 1000+. This is my long-running messed with home XFCE system, I have a barely touched backup/road XFCE system that went from 500+ to 700+, again right after the last stable update.

I too am a beginner and will be studying this thread, from reading I understand that this may not be a ‘problem’ (I have 32MB of ram as well, 8MB on my backup) but just wanted to post because it definitely presented itself right after the last stable update (2021-09-24)

output from my barely tweaked XFCE road machine, I will add my long time home XFCE later after I reboot, thanks

[tgz@roadm6500 ~]$ inxi -Fza
System:
  Kernel: 5.10.68-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.1.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10-x86_64 
  root=UUID=376164d0-ad70-4b70-b0c4-3aacf4cb1aba rw quiet apparmor=1 
  security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.29 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 
  vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux 
Machine:
  Type: Portable System: Dell product: Precision M6300 v: N/A 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 8 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 0JM680 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A15 
  date: 06/05/2013 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 48.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 48.1/79.9 Wh (60.2%) 
  volts: 12.2 min: 11.1 model: Sanyo DELL C54478 type: Li-ion 
  serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:
  Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core2 Duo T9300 bits: 64 type: MCP 
  arch: Penryn family: 6 model-id: 17 (23) stepping: 6 microcode: 60F cache: 
  L2: 6 MiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 ssse3 bogomips: 9977 
  Speed: 798 MHz min/max: 800/2501 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 
  1: 798 2: 798 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported 
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion 
  Type: mds 
  status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 
  mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD RV515/M54 [Mobility Radeon X1400] vendor: Dell 
  driver: radeon v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:7145 class-ID: 0300 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
  loaded: ati,radeon unloaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa 
  display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1200 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x318mm (20.0x12.5") 
  s-diag: 599mm (23.6") 
  Monitor-1: LVDS res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 133 size: 367x230mm (14.4x9.1") 
  diag: 433mm (17.1") 
  Monitor-2: DVI-0 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94 
  size: 519x324mm (20.4x12.8") diag: 612mm (24.1") 
  OpenGL: renderer: ATI RV515 v: 2.1 Mesa 21.2.2 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801H HD Audio vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel 
  v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:284b class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.68-1-MANJARO running: yes 
  Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.19 running: no 
  Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: yes 
  Sound Server-4: PipeWire v: 0.3.37 running: no 
Network:
  Device-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5756ME Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express 
  vendor: Dell driver: tg3 v: kernel port: ee00 bus-ID: 09:00.0 
  chip-ID: 14e4:1674 class-ID: 0200 
  IF: enp9s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 149.05 GiB used: 13.2 GiB (8.9%) 
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Intel model: SSDSA2M160G2GN 
  size: 149.05 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 02M3 scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 149.05 GiB size: 145.71 GiB (97.76%) 
  used: 13.2 GiB (9.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 52.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: SODIMM C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 
Info:
  Processes: 158 Uptime: 27m wakeups: 2 Memory: 7.77 GiB 
  used: 807.6 MiB (10.2%) Init: systemd v: 249 tool: systemctl Compilers: 
  gcc: 11.1.0 Packages: pacman: 1207 lib: 393 flatpak: 0 Shell: Bash 
  v: 5.1.8 running-in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.06

output from immediately after booting my long time home XFCE system, went from 600 to 1000+ MiB after update

[tgz@xfce-1 ~]$ inxi -Fza
System:
  Kernel: 5.10.68-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 11.1.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10-x86_64 
  root=UUID=cf9d3d26-6bb5-40df-bf67-b4729a325742 rw quiet apparmor=1 
  security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3 
  Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 tk: Gtk 3.24.29 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm 4.16.1 
  vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux 
Machine:
  Type: Portable System: Dell product: Precision M6500 v: N/A 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 8 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: Dell model: 0R1203 serial: <filter> BIOS: Dell v: A10 
  date: 06/04/2013 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 88.0 Wh (100.0%) condition: 88.0/93.2 Wh (94.4%) 
  volts: 12.3 min: 11.1 model: Samsung SDI DELL 3M19008 type: Li-ion 
  serial: <filter> status: Full 
CPU:
  Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7 Q 740 bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Nehalem family: 6 model-id: 1E (30) stepping: 5 microcode: A cache: 
  L2: 6 MiB 
  flags: lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 27672 
  Speed: 931 MHz min/max: 933/1734 MHz boost: enabled Core speeds (MHz): 
  1: 931 2: 930 3: 931 4: 931 5: 931 6: 931 7: 931 8: 931 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; 
  SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, 
  IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds status: Not affected 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Broadway XT [Mobility Radeon HD 5870] 
  vendor: Dell FirePro M7820 driver: radeon v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 
  chip-ID: 1002:68a0 class-ID: 0300 
  Device-2: Logic3 / SpectraVideo plc G-720 Keyboard type: USB 
  driver: hid-generic,usbhid bus-ID: 2-1.4.1.1.4.4:24 chip-ID: 1267:0103 
  class-ID: 0300 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.16.1 driver: 
  loaded: ati,radeon unloaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa 
  display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1200 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x317mm (20.0x12.5") 
  s-diag: 599mm (23.6") 
  Monitor-1: LVDS res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 
  Monitor-2: DisplayPort-0 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94 
  size: 519x324mm (20.4x12.8") diag: 612mm (24.1") 
  OpenGL: renderer: AMD JUNIPER (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.10.68-1-MANJARO LLVM 12.0.1) 
  v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.2 compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 5 Series/3400 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Dell 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3b56 
  class-ID: 0403 
  Device-2: AMD Juniper HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 5700 Series] vendor: Dell 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aa58 
  class-ID: 0403 
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.68-1-MANJARO running: yes 
  Sound Server-2: JACK v: 1.9.19 running: no 
  Sound Server-3: PulseAudio v: 15.0 running: yes 
  Sound Server-4: PipeWire v: 0.3.37 running: no 
Network:
  Device-1: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5761e Gigabit Ethernet PCIe vendor: Dell 
  driver: tg3 v: kernel port: de00 bus-ID: 09:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:1680 
  class-ID: 0200 
  IF: eno1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter> 
RAID:
  Hardware-1: Intel 82801 Mobile SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci 
  v: 3.0 port: 6ea0 bus-ID: 00:1f.2 chip-ID: 8086.282a rev: 05 
  class-ID: 0104 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 447.14 GiB used: 32.91 GiB (7.4%) 
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends 
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Intel model: SSDSA2CW160G3 
  size: 149.05 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B 
  speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: 0362 scheme: MBR 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB model: Mass Storage Device 
  size: 298.09 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B type: N/A 
  serial: <filter> scheme: MBR 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 149.05 GiB size: 145.71 GiB (97.76%) 
  used: 32.91 GiB (22.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found. 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 51.0 C mobo: N/A sodimm: SODIMM C gpu: radeon 
  temp: 51.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2635 
Info:
  Processes: 253 Uptime: 1m wakeups: 2 Memory: 31.28 GiB 
  used: 1.01 GiB (3.2%) Init: systemd v: 249 tool: systemctl Compilers: 
  gcc: 11.1.0 Packages: pacman: 1302 lib: 398 flatpak: 0 Shell: Bash 
  v: 5.1.8 running-in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.06 

thanks

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