Help fix keyboard issue (accents not working)

[lordsansui]

Hello,

I’m back to Manjaro, and yesterday night I just finished a fresh install with the latest ISO available. After everything was done I realized that my keyboard accents was not working properly. I made some investigation here on the forum but one solution pointed from other user is not working see post below

Issue with permanent keyboard configuration for accented letters (Portuguese ABNT2)

Hello all! I’m not an advanced user, although I’ve been running Linux (Ubuntu/Unity & Gnome) for some ten years. I’m wholly new to Manjaro and KDE. Apparently there is a known issue involving correctly configuring KDE to accept accented characters, i.e., a configuration which delivers “é” or “ã” or “ô” when you press ’ and then “e”, ~ and them “a”, ^ and then “o”, and so forth. I’ve seen the issue reported and discussed in a few posts – confined to the relatively small Portuguese or Spanish-s…

My locale language is set to American English, this way is better to find documentation and support.

System Settings → input device → Keyboard → Hardware → Set to Generic 105 keys

System Settings → input device → Keyboard → Layout → Set to Portuguese (Brazil) No dead keys

Manjaro Setting Manager → Keyboard Settings → Portuguese Brazil no dead keys

• The 1st foot print i found that an issue is because changing Manjaro Setting Manager Keyboard don’t make the accent works.

• The 2nd foot print I found about it’s an issue is because when I reboot my machine the Manjaro Setting Manager back the Keyboard Settings automatically to English Default, it suggests conflicts anywhere in the config files. Maybe once it’s see my locale defined as English and changes my keyboard and do not respect user choice.
  

  

Previously, when I was using xorg some year ago, the way to fix it was only using the command line: “setxkbmap -model abnt2 -layout br -variant abnt2”

Since Wayland, time to time I face issues and I didn’t find the correct way to fix it, with all improvements from plasma, it should work by default.

expected behavior: ã or ô
current behavior: ~a or ^o

Thanks in advance.

Regards

Marcelo

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[Aragorn]

@lordsansui

System Settings → input device → Keyboard → Layout → Set to Portuguese (Brazil) No dead keys

@lordsansui

Manjaro Setting Manager → Keyboard Settings → Portuguese Brazil no dead keys

You do need “dead keys” for typing accents on alphabetical characters if your keyboard layout does not have designated accented keys for the letters in question. The modus operandi is then to type the accent first, immediately followed by the character that must be accented.

@lordsansui

The 2nd foot print I found about it’s an issue is because when I reboot my machine the Manjaro Setting Manager back the Keyboard Settings automatically to English Default, it suggests conflicts anywhere in the config files. Maybe once it’s see my locale defined as English and changes my keyboard and do not respect user choice.

What you could try is delete the following file while logged out of Plasma…

rm -f ~/.local/share/kded5/keyboard/session/layout_memory.xml

I too had keyboard layout corruption in Plasma a short while ago, and deleting that file fixed it. But you have to be logged out of Plasma while doing it.

[lordsansui]

@Aragorn

You do need “dead keys” for typing accents on alphabetical characters if your keyboard layout does not have designated accented keys for the letters in question.

The no dead keys here is use to differentiate keyboard layout sold in the market, who creates those architecture defined that. In case of no dead key for Portuguese Brazilian ABNT2, it means the accents are in a specific position indicated below, this is working properly, so the key I press deliver the correct output.

@Aragorn

The modus operandi is then to type the accent first, immediately followed by the character that must be accented.

This is the issue, yes we do press the accent 1st and the letter next, so the operational system understand and combine those two keyboard types into a single character but this is not happening I my case. Manjaro+Plasma is not combining the accent+letter.

@Aragorn

What you could try is delete the following file while logged out of Plasma…

rm -f ~/.local/share/kded5/keyboard/session/layout_memory.xml

this file is no present in my system, the folder ~ /.local/share/kded5/keyboard/session/ is empty.

[Aragorn]

@lordsansui

@Aragorn

What you could try is delete the following file while logged out of Plasma…

rm -f ~/.local/share/kded5/keyboard/session/layout_memory.xml

this file is no present in my system, the folder ~ /.local/share/kded5/keyboard/session/ is empty.

This is strange, because in my case, the file recreated itself on the next login.

[lordsansui]

One time, if I remember well, I think I fix similar issue changing some config file, maybe there could be a conflict between GUI information and config files, I will try to check arch wiki or other place to see if Plasma Wayland storage keyboard information anywhere and check the content.

[lordsansui]

output from the command line “localectl”

System Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8
               LC_NUMERIC=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_TIME=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_MONETARY=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_PAPER=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_NAME=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_ADDRESS=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_TELEPHONE=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_MEASUREMENT=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_IDENTIFICATION=pt_BR.UTF-8
    VC Keymap: br-abnt2
   X11 Layout: br
    X11 Model: pc105
  X11 Variant: nodeadkeys

[lordsansui]

Maybe it’s a Plasma bug related to IBUS as indicates in the bug report below. If it’s the case, could some one help me with a work around and it’s fixed?

Keyboard layout changes do not work in Plasma Wayland

[lordsansui]

output from “~.config/kxkbrc/”

[$Version]
update_info=kxkb.upd:remove-empty-lists,kxkb.upd:add-back-resetoptions,kxkb_variants.upd:split-variants

[Layout]
LayoutList=br
Model=pc105
Use=true
VariantList=nodeadkeys

[Aragorn]

@lordsansui

This is the issue, yes we do press the accent 1st and the letter next, so the operational system understand and combine those two keyboard types into a single character but this is not happening I my case. Manjaro+Plasma is not combining the accent+letter.

That’s because you have selected “no dead keys”.

[Ben]

Don’t forget .XCompose for adding extras (or alternatives for stuff you forget how to type).

<Multi_key> <t> <i> <c> <k>: "✔"

Anything you like ( ͡❛ ͜ʖ ͡❛) ♪♪♪

[lordsansui]

@Aragorn

That’s because you have selected “no dead keys”.

If dead keys is the reason, what layout correspond to my keyboard hardware? below you can a photo.

[Aragorn]

It’s not the hardware. You have to select the “no dead keys” variant of the keyboard layout you’ve chosen.

[lordsansui]

I may not get your point. I have been selecting the “no dead keys” as demonstrated in the logs and images.

Maybe if you give more detail about what to change and where and can better understand what you are suggesting. maybe if you could rephrase or add images.

[Aragorn]

Oops, I’m sorry — my mistake. You need the variant with the dead keys.

[lordsansui]

I just tried to change both settings (Manjaro and plasma) to Portuguese (Brazil Sun type 6/7) that has very similar layout as mine with “no dead keys” variant, and it’s working as expected.

What is still an issue is why Manjaro was resetting they keyboard setup on Manjaro Setting Manager after reboot? I will keep my eyes on it and keep providing info here.

if Manjaro stops resetting the settings I will mark as solved.

[Aragorn]

@lordsansui

What is still an issue is why Manjaro was resetting they keyboard setup on Manjaro Setting Manager after reboot? I will keep my eyes on it and keep providing info here.

I’m guessing it was an update to Plasma that did this.

[lordsansui]

@Aragorn

I’m guessing it was an update to Plasma that did this

No, I just reboot to test it right now and Manjaro change it again. The good part is that the keyboard is still working correctly, so maybe the system is taking into consideration the information from plasma that is preserved and is correct but not from Manjaro Setting Manager.

Maybe it’s just and outdated code or oriented to a different DE, but if needed, I could help with someone guidance, in any way to understand why this is changing while it should be preserving user choice.

[lordsansui]

@Aragorn thanks for all the help and discussion.