Can use ISO with linux54 (19.0.2) but not with linux56 (20.0.3, 20.1rc6) - i3-3770S - GTX 1050 Ti

I can boot and open terminal
Bt nothing works properly in the live entertainment
Any command I type gives me nothing…the cursor just jumps to next line and starts blinking

And the debug file is completely empty
:persevere::persevere::persevere:
And I don’t have internet in live environment…

Isos with newer kernels than 5.4 isn’t installing!!

I have a similar problem with not completing the install from a USB stick. I’m attempting to install alongside Win 10. I have all the secure boot and signature settings setup and it does boot from the usb. It fails at the very end of the process.
I appreciate the help. What other information do you need? Apparently I can’t include the links in this output so I don’t know how to send the output
Grover

Here is the output:
[manjaro%manjaro ~]$ inxi -Fxza --no-host
System:
Kernel: 5.6.15-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.1.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-x86_64 lang=en_US keytable=us tz=UTC
driver=free nouveau.modeset=1 i915.modeset=1 radeon.modeset=1
misobasedir=manjaro misolabel=MANJARO_XFCE_2003 quiet
systemd.show_status=1 apparmor=1 security=apparmor
Desktop: Xfce 4.14.2 Distro: Manjaro Linux

If Fedora installer did not work too, I think the problem is on your machine. Bad Usb port? Have you tried to change usb port when you create the iso?
In your machine there is another S.O. to try usb ports?
Check in your Bios the usb settings…

Hello @Computer_Email23, sorry for the delay, but after reading everything now, i could swear that your usb drive has I/O Errors.

Reasons:

  1. Iso is not downloaded correctly and have errors,
  2. Usb drive has “badblocks” which cause Iinput/Output errors. (sometimes they are just not visible)

I would rather expect that the usb drive is about to die.
You can use the sha1 code to check if the image matches code.
Replace the usb drive.

Hello @groverc!

This could be more that problem:

Solution: Don’t install a office suite, when it ask.

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I can install any os from the same usb port and usb stick(using a 120gb ssd)…only isos with kernel newer than 5.4 is causing the problem (I think so)

Usb drive(120gb ssd) is fine because I can install any other os with it
The problem is just with isos with new kernels!
Strange :confused::confused:

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How to enable secure boot in manjaro?
Can you send me a link for guidance?

Could you start a live session with this iso? We not more information, what causes your problem.

manjaro-xfce-19.0.2-200311-linux54.iso

So it seems you have a problem with the kernels higher than linux54.

Please post then the output of:

manjaro-architect-20.0.3-200607-linux56.iso could be a workaround? but needs a internet connection.

Disable secure boot in the UEFI. It makes more trouble than it helps.

As new user you can’t upload pictures, but you can upload it to https://freeimage.host/ for example and put the links as code here. add " `" at the beginning at at the end:

https://freeimage.host/

Have look here for understanding the trustlevels: Understanding Discourse Trust Levels

It’s perfectly possible what you observe.
Ok, then look for the latest ISO with linux54 and install that one. You can use Manjaro Architect installer on that ISO. This way you should avoid issues with GPG signatures and many packages that need an update.

Should I post inxi from the working iso(19.0.2)??

Yes I can install 19.0.2
And I’ll try architect edition…

So I can never install new iso???:persevere::persevere::persevere:

System:
  Host: manjaro-gnome Kernel: 5.4.23-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
  v: 9.2.1 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-x86_64 lang=en_US keytable=us tz=UTC 
  driver=nonfree nouveau.modeset=0 i915.modeset=1 radeon.modeset=0 
  misobasedir=manjaro misolabel=MANJARO_GNOMEM_1902 quiet 
  systemd.show_status=1 apparmor=1 security=apparmor 
  Desktop: Gnome 3.34.4 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM 3.34.1 Distro: Manjaro Linux 
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: Intel model: DH61HO v: AAG62445-102 
  serial: GEHO231000C2 UEFI: Intel v: HOH6110H.86A.0816.2018.1031.1524 
  date: 10/31/2018 
CPU:
  Topology: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-3770S bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Ivy Bridge family: 6 model-id: 3A (58) stepping: 9 microcode: 20 
  L1 cache: 256 KiB L2 cache: 8192 KiB L3 cache: 8192 KiB 
  flags: avx lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx bogomips: 49511 
  Speed: 1597 MHz min/max: 1600/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1596 2: 1596 
  3: 1596 4: 1596 5: 1596 6: 1597 7: 1596 8: 1596 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; 
  SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, 
  IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] vendor: ZOTAC driver: nvidia 
  v: 440.59 bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1c82 
  Display: server: X. org 1.20.7 driver: nvidia compositor: gnome-shell 
  resolution: <xdpyinfo missing> 
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GTX 1050 Ti/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 440.59 
  direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:1c20 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio vendor: ZOTAC 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0fb9 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.23-1-MANJARO 
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: Intel driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 03:00.0 
  chip ID: 10ec:8168 
  IF: enp3s0 state: down mac: 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8188EUS 802.11n Wireless Network Adapter type: USB 
  driver: r8188eu bus ID: 1-1.1:3 chip ID: 0bda:8179 serial: 00E04C0001 
  IF: wlp0s26u1u1 state: down mac: 
  Device-3: TP-Link USB 10/100/1000 LAN type: USB driver: r8152 
  bus ID: 4-3:2 chip ID: 2357:0601 serial: 000001000000 
  IF: enp4s0u3 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.93 TiB used: 104.62 GiB (5.3%) 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Seagate model: ST500DM002-1BD142 size: 465.76 GiB 
  block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s 
  rotation: 7200 rpm serial: Z3TCQ0VZ rev: KC45 scheme: GPT 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Crucial model: CT500MX500SSD1 size: 465.76 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s 
  serial: 2010E2910DFF rev: 023 scheme: GPT 
  ID-3: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: Seagate model: BUP Slim BK 
  size: 931.51 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B 
  serial: NA9E8CVM rev: 0304 scheme: MBR 
  ID-4: /dev/sdd type: USB model: TO Exter nal USB 3.0 size: 111.80 GiB 
  block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B serial: 201503310007F 
  rev: 0204 scheme: GPT 
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw size: N/A size: 11.70 GiB used: 781.7 MiB (6.5%) fs: overlay 
  source: ERR-102 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 45.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 35 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 48% 
Info:
  Processes: 248 Uptime: 2m Memory: 15.60 GiB used: 1.20 GiB (7.7%) 
  Init: systemd v: 242 Compilers: gcc: N/A Shell: bash (sudo) v: 5.0.16 
  running in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.0.37

Thank you :wink: But please edit it and use ``` at the beginning and at the end, so that it is readable formatted. :slight_smile:

What we can try is setting parameter in grub boot menu, to see what actually the problem is with the newer kernel.

Also very helpful would be a boot journal:

journalctl -b -0 > ~/current_boot.log

Without internet connection impossible, but install Manjaro 19.0.2 and don’t upgrade everything, instead install the linux56 kernel and boot it. Then create the same log as above. If you cant do anything in linux56, just reboot use the linux54 kernel. Then create the log, but like this:

journalctl -b -1 > ~/last_boot.log

it will create a log file of the previous boot.

Better use https://pastebin.com/ for the journal log, because it could be very long.

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Ya…after updating everything it is now 20.1
And I can switch to kernel 5.8.6 without any problem

Bt is there any way to directly install the latest isos with new kernels?

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Feel free to built you own manjaro distro with the preferred kernel:

https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=ManjaroISO

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i probably wouldnt worry about manjaro…every week theres about 3gig of updates you need to install …just getting too expensive…