Frequent periods of unresponsiveness for 10 to 20 seconds at least on a fresh KDE install(with some programs)

Support
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So, in that case I would do a reinstall and install the packages one after the other. Perhaps even reboot in between. Sound good?

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if the freezes were related only to running videos you could try the 470 version of nvidia, but audio is also affected, so probably a kernel thing …
that really doesnt sound that good to me, to much of work … you could try downgrading the kernel+nvidia …post output from:
ls -hl /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep linux | grep nvidia

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I already tried the 470xx version. I had only a blackscreen then, and had to revert via a chroot.

I have never downgraded a kernel before. Would have thought that would make only more problems.
But we can try no problem. You probably mean stay in 5.15 but a lower version in that right.

ls -hl /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep linux | grep nvidia 

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   37M 11. Aug 17:29 linux510-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 11. Aug 17:29 linux510-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39M 16. Aug 14:22 linux515-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39M 12. Aug 01:03 linux518-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 12. Aug 01:03 linux518-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39M 13. Aug 16:49 linux519-nvidia-515.65.01-6-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 13. Aug 16:49 linux519-nvidia-515.65.01-6-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
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post output from this:
ls -hl /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep linux
ls -hl /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep nvidia
the command before was not correct

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No problem

ls -hl /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep nvidia 

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   43M 16. Aug 14:22 lib32-nvidia-utils-515.65.01-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   37M 11. Aug 17:29 linux510-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 11. Aug 17:29 linux510-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39M 16. Aug 14:22 linux515-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39M 12. Aug 01:03 linux518-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 12. Aug 01:03 linux518-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39M 13. Aug 16:49 linux519-nvidia-515.65.01-6-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 13. Aug 16:49 linux519-nvidia-515.65.01-6-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  212M 16. Aug 14:22 nvidia-utils-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst

ls -hl /var/cache/pacman/pkg | grep linux 

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   76M 11. Aug 17:29 linux510-5.10.136-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 11. Aug 17:29 linux510-5.10.136-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   37M 11. Aug 17:29 linux510-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 11. Aug 17:29 linux510-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39M 16. Aug 14:22 linux515-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  130M 12. Aug 01:03 linux518-5.18.17-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 12. Aug 01:03 linux518-5.18.17-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39M 12. Aug 01:03 linux518-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 12. Aug 01:03 linux518-nvidia-515.65.01-2-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  180M 13. Aug 16:49 linux519-5.19.1-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 13. Aug 16:49 linux519-5.19.1-3-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   39M 13. Aug 16:49 linux519-nvidia-515.65.01-6-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 13. Aug 16:49 linux519-nvidia-515.65.01-6-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
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well theres nothing to downgrade to, since its a fresh install, the packages that are downloaded are the latest …
since you are on btrfs, didnt you created a snapshot/timeshift before updating ?

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not manually, but I’ll take a look
I have however, now that you mention it, a complete backup of my system before the first reinstall.
I’ll take a look in that cache as well.

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But not from the cache. That’s in its own subvolume unfortunately

49

A kernel from a 64-bit Laptop should work as well right?
I’ll take a look

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well if you have a backup, you can restore the snapshot, and then dont update the following:

linux515-nvidia
nvidia-utils
lib32-nvidia-utils
linux515
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That would be the complete last resort, yes.

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ls /var/cache/pacman/pkg -hl | grep linux 

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   19M 12. Mai 20:38 archlinux-appstream-data-20220512-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   19M 27. Jul 09:43 archlinux-appstream-data-20220727-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 27. Jul 09:43 archlinux-appstream-data-20220727-1-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1,1M 25. Apr 01:02 archlinux-keyring-20220424-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1,1M 28. Jul 18:43 archlinux-keyring-20220727-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   119 28. Jul 18:43 archlinux-keyring-20220727-1-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  385K  6. Aug 22:11 lib32-util-linux-2.38.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   119  6. Aug 22:11 lib32-util-linux-2.38.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  386K 29. Mär 01:04 lib32-util-linux-2.38-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  100M 16. Jun 19:55 linux515-5.15.48-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 16. Jun 19:55 linux515-5.15.48-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  101M 11. Aug 20:35 linux515-5.15.60-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 11. Aug 20:35 linux515-5.15.60-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2,1M 16. Jun 19:55 linux515-r8168-8.049.02-59-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 16. Jun 19:55 linux515-r8168-8.049.02-59-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2,2M 11. Aug 20:35 linux515-r8168-8.050.03-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 11. Aug 20:35 linux515-r8168-8.050.03-4-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  117M 28. Mär 17:44 linux516-5.16.18-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 28. Mär 17:44 linux516-5.16.18-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  119M 15. Jun 12:34 linux517-5.17.15-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 15. Jun 12:34 linux517-5.17.15-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   33M 15. Jun 12:34 linux517-headers-5.17.15-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 15. Jun 12:34 linux517-headers-5.17.15-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2,0M 15. Jun 12:34 linux517-r8168-8.049.02-20-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   438 15. Jun 12:34 linux517-r8168-8.049.02-20-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1,2M 11. Mai 00:17 linux-api-headers-5.17.5-2-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  1,2M  2. Aug 19:44 linux-api-headers-5.18.15-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   215  2. Aug 19:44 linux-api-headers-5.18.15-1-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  134M 13. Mai 16:35 linux-firmware-20220509.b19cbdc-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 13. Mai 16:35 linux-firmware-20220509.b19cbdc-1-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  130M 15. Jul 16:25 linux-firmware-20220708.be7798e-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 15. Jul 16:25 linux-firmware-20220708.be7798e-1-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   35K 13. Mai 16:35 linux-firmware-whence-20220509.b19cbdc-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   34K 15. Jul 16:25 linux-firmware-whence-20220708.be7798e-1-any.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   310 15. Jul 16:25 linux-firmware-whence-20220708.be7798e-1-any.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2,5M  6. Aug 21:06 util-linux-2.38.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   119  6. Aug 21:06 util-linux-2.38.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  2,5M 29. Mär 01:04 util-linux-2.38-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   119 29. Mär 01:04 util-linux-2.38-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  360K  6. Aug 21:06 util-linux-libs-2.38.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root   119  6. Aug 21:06 util-linux-libs-2.38.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst.sig
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  361K 29. Mär 01:04 util-linux-libs-2.38-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
53

Oh, problem. The Laptop does not have an Nvidia card and therefore no drivers

54

i have no idea if manjaro provides older packages for download…
so you found them… so thats a problem, you would not be able to downgrade since you have only this:

linux515-5.15.60

so if you have the backup from before installing the updates, use it, and then dont upgrade the packages mentioned above …

55

I’ll take a short look which versions are installed in the backup, but perhaps that is indeed the only way.

Any idea, on wether or not, or when, I’ll be able to do a new install then. I do want to try KDE :unamused: :sweat_smile:

56

you can do again a fresh install from the same iso:

then take a backup of it, and run update without the packages, to see if it was really because of them …

57

That is a very good idea thx. :grinning:
And I will try that before the backup

58

yes do a fresh install again, then back it up, and run update from add/remove software with the blacklisted:

linux515-nvidia
nvidia-utils
lib32-nvidia-utils
linux515
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Alright, we’ll see then how it goes. Till tomorrow probably XD And already thanks for the help until now, btw. :smiley: :+1: :pray:

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Is an update of those packages forbidden now, or are they just not checked. In other words: If I install something that depends on newer versions of these packages, what will happen?