Dual Boot: Boot error

Hi,

I have Manjaro and Win 10 on a Dell XPS 15 Laptop and quite regularly my PC isn’t able to boot.

It happens right after hitting the power button or sometimes, when restarting, right after reaching the point when the pc powers up again. Usually the first thing to appear is a Dell Logo, then a passwort prompt (set in BIOS (is that still the right term?)).

When it doesn’t boot it simply remains black and I don’t know better than holding the power button 'till it shuts down. After this Booting always works again.

Anybody know how to fix this?

This sounds like your system isn’t event reaching the point where a boot loader is involved (you’re not seeing the bios password prompt).

You can try checking for bios updates for your machine.
Other than that :man_shrugging:

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Hi,

thanks for your reply.

Well most of the time it works, so I wonder what causes the times it doesn’t.
Does this change your estimation?

Seems like a hardware problem to me, but can’t be sure without proper testing.

Can you enter the UEFI Bios of your computer ?

Thanks for your answer. I hope not.
I think I have to learn what to make out of error messages. But I don’t wonna bother you all with to much rookie questions at a time :cold_face:

Did you set the system clock on both OS to the same reference?

Then I would boot the Manjaro Live Media and reinstall Grub2.

They’re both set to UTC. Following this thread

I also activated the network-time-daemon as mentioned in the post.

(Hoping that makes sense…)

While I don’t have any education in all oft his I wonder if it isn’t about the way the two OSs shut down or restart. Most of the time I reach the Manjaroscreen where I can choose between Manjaro or Win.
Isn’t this what Grub2 is?

Then check the Boot sequence in the Bios.

Manjaro is set to boot first.

Just thinking that I activated the Computer’s password protection so that on every boot I first have to enter a psw. then comes Manjaros psw as I also activated encryption for the Manjaro partition.

I guess this shouldn’t be the problem, but I mention it anyway, cause I really just don’t know for sure.

Hi,

could you point me in the right direction what proper testing would mean?
Does it require advanced skills or is there info available which fits into a discription.

[quote=“rogerR, post:1, topic:108243”]
n the pc powers up again. Usually the first thing to appear is a Dell Logo, then a passwort prompt (set in BIOS (is that still the right term?)).

When it doesn’t boot it simply remains black and I don’t know better than holding the power button 'till it shuts down. After this Booting always works again.

Anybody know how to fix this and how I can test this properly?

I realise there are a lot of boot problems being discussed. After a quick search in the forum I haven’t found a problem similar to mine. I haven’t solved this at all and still would be thankful about tips how to find out more about my specific problem.

  • Is there information that I can provide that would help solve the problem and how do I obtain it?
  • Have I described the problem well enough in the above posts?
  • I think it seems important, that after the problem occurs and I simply force power off by pressing the power button long enough, the laptop always starts without problems. Doesn’t this give a hint what to search for?
  • I think the basic setting I have set correctly (boot sequence, system clock, secure boot off…)

Thanks for any help!

provide full system info:
inxi -Fazv7
but seing you are using dell xps 15, those could be quite tricky…

It’s been on the market since 2010, if it’s one of the older ones and its main battery is weak it may need a cmos battery replacement.
If those die you slowly encounter odd errors related to the bios resetting to its default setting; bad time keeping, unrecognised passwords or suddenly booting in ‘legacy’.
To test this:

  • run battery down and leave it unplugged for a while, then boot; it will fail.
  • Charge main battery and keep it plugged in and only suspend over night, then shut down and immediately reboot; it should work.
System:
  Kernel: 5.9.16-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.9-x86_64
    root=UUID=078e24b2-846f-4627-ba86-08ac5dcb55a5 ro quiet
    cryptdevice=UUID=3ef5d5a5-7e9f-412e-b0fa-a9c8625930c0:luks-3ef5d5a5-7e9f-412e-b0fa-a9c8625930c0
    root=/dev/mapper/luks-3ef5d5a5-7e9f-412e-b0fa-a9c8625930c0 splash
    apparmor=1 security=apparmor
    resume=UUID=97f9ff6f-27bf-448f-9544-8744a7ad79e7 udev.log_priority=3
    i915.enable_dpcd_backlight=0
  Desktop: GNOME v: 43.2 tk: GTK v: 3.24.36 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM v: 43.0
    Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Dell product: XPS 15 9570 v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 0JVFJ2 v: A00 serial: <superuser required> UEFI: Dell
    v: 1.20.0 date: 06/07/2021
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 55.3 Wh (94.0%) condition: 58.8/97.0 Wh (60.6%)
    volts: 12.4 min: 11.4 model: SMP DELL GPM0365 type: Li-ion serial: <filter>
    status: discharging
Memory:
  RAM: total: 30.99 GiB used: 3.17 GiB (10.2%)
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges
    required.
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i5-8300H bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Coffee Lake
    gen: core 8 level: v3 note: check built: 2018 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
    model-id: 0x9E (158) stepping: 0xA (10) microcode: 0xF0
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 4 tpc: 2 threads: 8 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB desc: 4x256 KiB
    L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/4000 scaling: driver: intel_pstate
    governor: powersave cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800
    8: 800 bogomips: 36812
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat
    arch_capabilities arch_perfmon art avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush
    clflushopt cmov constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64
    dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fma fpu
    fsgsbase fxsr ht hwp hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_notify ibpb ibrs ida
    intel_pt invpcid invpcid_single lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor
    movbe mpx msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm
    pdpe1gb pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti pts rdrand rdseed rdtscp
    rep_good sdbg sep smap smep ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp
    syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi
    vpid x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT
    vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl and seccomp
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional,
    IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel CoffeeLake-H GT2 [UHD Graphics 630] vendor: Dell
    driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-9.5 process: Intel 14nm built: 2016-20
    ports: active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1,DP-2,DP-3 bus-ID: 00:02.0
    chip-ID: 8086:3e9b class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: NVIDIA GP107M [GeForce GTX 1050 Mobile] vendor: Dell
    driver: nouveau v: kernel non-free: 525.xx+ status: current (as of 2022-12)
    arch: Pascal code: GP10x process: TSMC 16nm built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 01:00.0
    chip-ID: 10de:1c8d class-ID: 0302 temp: 34.0 C
  Device-3: Microdia Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo
    bus-ID: 1-12:4 chip-ID: 0c45:671d class-ID: 0e02
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.6 with: Xwayland v: 22.1.7
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa
    dri: iris,nouveau gpu: i915 display-ID: 0
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: Sharp 0x149a built: 2018 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 142
    gamma: 1.2 size: 344x194mm (13.54x7.64") diag: 395mm (15.5") ratio: 16:9
    modes: 1920x1080
  API: EGL/GBM Message: No known Wayland EGL/GBM data sources.
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Cannon Lake PCH cAVS vendor: Dell driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_skl,snd_sof_pci bus-ID: 00:1f.3
    chip-ID: 8086:a348 class-ID: 0403
  Sound API: ALSA v: k5.9.16-1-MANJARO running: yes
  Sound Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.63 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
    vendor: Rivet Networks Killer Wireless-n/a/ac 1535 driver: ath10k_pci
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 3b:00.0
    chip-ID: 168c:003e class-ID: 0280 temp: 42.0 C
  IF: wlp59s0 state: up mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros QCA61x4 Bluetooth 4.0 type: USB driver: btusb
    v: 0.8 bus-ID: 1-4:2 chip-ID: 0cf3:e300 class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: down bt-service: enabled,running
    rfk-block: hardware: no software: yes address: see --recommends
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
  Device-1: luks-3ef5d5a5-7e9f-412e-b0fa-a9c8625930c0 maj-min: 254:0
    type: LUKS dm: dm-0 size: 24.41 GiB
  Components:
  p-1: nvme0n1p9 maj-min: 259:9 size: 24.41 GiB
  Device-2: luks-df0c6b01-8f49-466a-b8ee-c16ee3407d03 maj-min: 254:1
    type: LUKS dm: dm-1 size: 31.68 GiB
  Components:
  p-1: nvme0n1p10 maj-min: 259:10 size: 31.68 GiB
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 42.38 GiB (17.8%)
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung model: PM981 NVMe 256GB
    size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s
    lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter> rev: EXD72D1Q temp: 27.9 C scheme: GPT
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 24.41 GiB size: 23.9 GiB (97.92%) used: 17.43 GiB (72.9%)
    fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-0 maj-min: 254:0
    mapped: luks-3ef5d5a5-7e9f-412e-b0fa-a9c8625930c0 label: N/A
    uuid: 078e24b2-846f-4627-ba86-08ac5dcb55a5
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 508 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p7 maj-min: 259:7 label: N/A
    uuid: 9D5A-92DF
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 31.68 GiB size: 31.06 GiB (98.04%)
    used: 24.95 GiB (80.4%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-1 maj-min: 254:1
    mapped: luks-df0c6b01-8f49-466a-b8ee-c16ee3407d03 label: N/A
    uuid: 2c1ca6e5-daf7-4971-b438-ca4b3db62989
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default)
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p8 maj-min: 259:8 label: N/A
    uuid: 97f9ff6f-27bf-448f-9544-8744a7ad79e7
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1 size: 500 MiB fs: vfat label: ESP
    uuid: 1404-B4AC
  ID-2: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 size: 128 MiB fs: <superuser required>
    label: N/A uuid: N/A
  ID-3: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3 size: 167.22 GiB fs: bitlocker
    label: N/A uuid: N/A
  ID-4: /dev/nvme0n1p4 maj-min: 259:4 size: 990 MiB fs: ntfs
    label: WINRETOOLS uuid: 22B80C19B80BE9DD
  ID-5: /dev/nvme0n1p5 maj-min: 259:5 size: 10 GiB fs: ntfs label: Image
    uuid: 3CC60E59C60E1434
  ID-6: /dev/nvme0n1p6 maj-min: 259:6 size: 1.06 GiB fs: ntfs
    label: DELLSUPPORT uuid: D230105A301047BD
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 16 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-4:2 info: Qualcomm Atheros QCA61x4 Bluetooth 4.0
    type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 0cf3:e300 class-ID: e001
  Device-2: 1-7:3 info: Shenzhen Goodix Fingerprint Reader
    type: Abstract (modem),CDC-Data driver: cdc_acm interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 27c6:5395 class-ID: 0a00
    serial: <filter>
  Device-3: 1-12:4 info: Microdia Integrated_Webcam_HD type: Video
    driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 0c45:671d class-ID: 0e02
  Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 10 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0 C pch: 37.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau
    temp: 34.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0 fan-2: 0
Info:
  Processes: 276 Uptime: 1h 1m wakeups: 6530 Init: systemd v: 252
  default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.0 clang: 14.0.6
  Packages: 1703 pm: pacman pkgs: 1702 libs: 382 tools: gnome-software,pamac
  pm: rpm pkgs: 1 pm: flatpak pkgs: 0 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9
  running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.24

Thanks,

interesting I’ll keep that in mind if other fixes won’t work.

what is this?:

thats a dead kernel for a very long time…
install a newer one the 5.15 lts for example, boot with it, and uninstall the 5.9
just to be sure post also output from:
mhwd-kernel -li


also you dont have any proper nvidia drivers installed:

so install them with:
sudo mhwd -a pci nonfree 0300
reboot and test if you have still issues with boot when running a proper kernel and proper video drivers


if it still happens, you can post logs from the failed boot:
journalctl -b-1 -p4 --no-pager

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