Thanks for the tip! I’ve downgraded to 5.4. And yes, it is. The 390 is the only one I’m able to install and use (I think 418 should also be compatible, but I never got it working correctly). However, I think it’s sad to use a rolling release system with an ageing kernel.
It seems like Canonical is somewhat trying to solve this issue before it happens on Ubuntu. I don’t have any idea how. But maybe I’ll go back to Ubuntu (or Kubuntu) on this machine and keep Manjaro only on my desktop.
The GT 740M is not compatible with 455. Even the GT 640M LE has better support. Yep, Nvidia sucks.
maybe the situation is from strategic point of view not too bad.
lets align with other linux distros and publish an easy to read paper which describes the politics of nvidia, pros and cons of free vs non-free driver and compare this with the way amd is doing it.
so whenever a linux enthusiast considers to buy a new pixel accelerator, there is already a recommendation in place
if that is spread across many linix distros, that might put some pressure on nvidia
Geforce 210video card(XFCE): with this new update and having to uninstall the proprietary driver (version 340), I also decided to uninstall the free driver (video-linux for GT218) because it seems to conflict with GTK3 in some applications ( when the system starts, the title bar and the margin turn white and do not show the maximize, close, etc. buttons, so when uninstalling this video-linux driver the GTK3 style does not suffer problems, but unfortunately when Like video-Linux using kernels 5.9 and 5.10, manjaro suffers from slowing down when opening videos (both in chromium and in firefox) or crashes when using applications for a while (mainly related to configuration or thunar). Fortunately, all this behavior is not observed when using kernel 5.4 (apparently this anomalous behavior may be due to the KWORKER / u processes)
The rolling release is free with me. It’s just a reminder that I really need to switch to amd asap because I run a gtx 960 so I have time before it’s not supported but the clock is ticking.
I do not know about you guys but, here in Turkey, I need to pay at least 8 times more to get a graphic card, another tech thing or a whole new machine. And that’s so optimistic thinking the tax rates and importers in the middle, which makes it about 16 times more than you do to pay. So we try to stick to what we have and use it to full extent.
I mean, you could’ve found a way to have the drivers on older kernels. I am okay with using an older kernel. You might think “No, older kernels have bugs, security issues…” or whatever but I’ll use it if there’s no way.
It was a good run but I think I’ll go back to Kubuntu where nvidia-340xx is still supported and guaranteed to be supported until 2023.
And, no, nouveau sucks. I, BTW, accidentally type here, without looking, because of these crazy flickering issues.
current (450xx and 455xx) nvidia driver has unresolved bug for several months that causes driver crash and restart or system completely freezing … this mostly happens when running chromium based browsers but it doesn’t matter … what does matter is, that 440.xx didn’t have the bug and running this older driver was the only option to have stable system … after removing this driver even for LTS kernels system crashes are back and only way around (compiling driver myself) is too inconvenient for average user … sorry to say, but it is easier to change distro than fighting the drivers every update
You could try installing nvidia-440xx-dkms and nvidia-440xx-utils from AUR, if that works, it’s quite simple and no manual compilation, etc. is required.
mhwd, easy nvidia driver management and selection for compatibility was one of the biggest advantages over other distros that manjaro had … now it’s gone
btw AUR failed to satisfy dependencies … the two packagaes require each other and wouldn’t build … and more hassle is what I just cannot worry about after every update
at least bring back some older drivers for LTS kernel, please
I agree it’s not an optimal situation, and at least some drivers could have been kept for older kernels, I’m just trying to provide alternative solutions to the problem. By the way, you’re partially right, pamac and paru for some reason cannot find the right dependency, however, yay can. So yay -S nvidia-440xx-dkms should work.
I agree. Manjaro team should either get rid of the older LTS kernels entirely or keep the drivers that support them but only for those kernels. Getting rid of the drivers just because they didn’t run on the kernel that’s not even LTS was not a reason to get rid of them. From a developer standpoint it shouldn’t be hard to run in if check on whether or not the user is running a kernel that supports the driver. I myself am not even running the latest LTS Kernel I’m still on 4.19. ( I’m considering switching to the latest LTS Kernel today but that’s beside the point since 5.9 isn’t an LTS kernel)
If it is hard to keep that backwards compatibility even doing it that way then you should just get rid of the older LTS kernels entirely because keeping them without those drivers is kind of a tease for users.
I know I said before that it’s fine for me and it just pushes me to switch over to AMD quicker which is all true but I didn’t think about it from a general user perspective.
Keeping up that support of all those damn nvidia driver versions in combinations with the different kernel versions is a maintenance nightmare → I can fully understand the decision of dropping some nvidia drivers.
Now guys, here is the way out of the misery:
To those who need their specific driver versions → Form a team of volunteers and build whatever drivers for whatever kernel versions you need (it’s not that hard, there are guides out here, see the one from @philm). Get a VPS (heck, I’m even sure the costs would be covered by manjaro (donations)), create a repository and offer your work to the public…
WIN <-> WIN situation → You get your drivers, learn something and give back to the community!
This is how free and open-source software works (at least it should…):
Use. Improve. Give back. Be happy. (repeat)
Ah and next time you buy a gfx card, don’t buy the nvidia bullshit please
Never again will I buy NVidia card.
