Dark Mode issue with Libre Office - Unreadable buttons

[lordsansui]

Hello,

I started to use Dark theme 1 week ago, and now after needing to use Libre Office Impress i was surprised by and issue related to the buttons at top menu unable to be read once the text or imagens in the buttons are black and the back ground are black too. see the image below for better understanding and comparison.

Searching in the forum I found the thread below but ti’s related to a different issue, if you open the link you will see the his menu if properly colored and he can identify all buttons while mine not. Don’t know if it’s Libre Office issue, KDE issue or Manjaro issue.

https://forum.manjaro.org/t/unreadable-text-with-libreoffice-dark-theme-dark-font/27200

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Below also my current Libre Office Color settings (app default)

[omano]

LibreOffice → View → Icon ?

[lordsansui]

Regarding configuration: LibreOffice → View → Icon

It’s set to automatic but in parentheses you can see breeze indication witch clear mismatch my current Theme (Breath2 2021 Dark), so besides I can manually fixes the issue (thanks for that), this mismatch is still and issue that needs to be fixed.

[archisman]

@lordsansui

It’s set to automatic but in parentheses you can see breeze indication witch clear mismatch my current Theme (Breath2 2021 Dark), so besides I can manually fixes the issue (thanks for that), this mismatch is still and issue that needs to be fixed.

There is no Breath theme for LibreOffice. Choose the Breeze Dark icon style instead.

[olividir]

If you go into “Personalization” you can change the baground color of Libreoffice. You could give that a try

[omano]

@lordsansui

I can manually fixes the issue (thanks for that)

@lordsansui

this mismatch is still and issue that needs to be fixed

So you decide, is it fixed or does it need to be fixed? What are you expecting from us here? I gave you the solution. Now it is fixed. If you want you can contact LibreOffice to have their program looked at for your particular setup which doesn’t select the best icon set automatically but we can do nothing more here.

[lordsansui]

I expected Libre Office to follow Manjaro Theme definition once the default settings is Automatic and this behavior is issued, maybe Manjato team could open ticket to Libre Office to fix it. I can’t judge were the root cause is, if it’s Manjaro side or Libre office side.

I will tag the solution, but tomorrow, if I change the theme again, I will need to set Libre Office config manually again once the Automatic isn’t work properly, so a permanent solution should come via developers once your suggestion is just an interim solution.

[archisman]

@lordsansui

I expected Libre Office to follow Manjaro Theme definition once the default settings is Automatic and this behavior is issued, maybe Manjato team could open ticket to Libre Office to fix it. I can’t judge were the root cause is, if it’s Manjaro side or Libre office side.

Breath is a theme developed by the Manjaro developers. It is a KDE Global theme, and is not available as a LibreOffice icon theme.

In KDE, the default theme is Breeze (Manjaro changes its default theme to Breath), which is the icon theme LibreOffice chooses automatically, as Breeze is available as a LibreOffice theme. The “Automatic” theme is DE dependent. In XFCE, LibreOffice automatically chooses the Colibre icon theme instead.

If you want a “Breath” theme for Libreoffice, you will have to help create it. LibreOffice is a GTK app, it is not designed to automatically pickup the KDE global theme.

@lordsansui

but tomorrow, if I change the theme again, I will need to set Libre Office config manually again

If you use a dark GTK theme, you need to choose a dark icon theme (e.g Breeze (dark)) in LibreOffice. If you use a light GTK theme, you need to manually choose a light icon theme in LibreOffice.

[lordsansui]

Hello archisman,

Regardless all technical characteristics of the applications and DE environment from user point of view I think it can be simplified as two options:

Is the default theme Dark or Light? and so, Libre Office should recognize both, all other themes, customization, etc, should just be variants of dark and light, once those two became standard in all devices applications. Someone might want to create a grey theme, or pink one, no problem, but in this specific case things should be set manually. But I think default themes should work automatically and well integrated. You just confirmed that there are some technical issues that needs to be managed from developers.

[cscs]

But it matters.
Graphical frameworks make a difference. You cant just set a plasma/qt theme and expect gtk apps like firefox to follow…they wont.
Libreoffice though, while GTK, is a slightly special case as it supports both integrations, but you may need to configure it.

See: LibreOffice - ArchWiki
(the vlc stuff … on plasma you probably want kf5)

[lordsansui]

No doubt It matter, but for developers, not for the users.

Sometimes linux community make confusion that all linux user are at certain point developers, currently maybe it’s real because linux desktop is very small in terms of maket percentage (1~2%), but if linux starts to grow in terms of adoption, more users we get, more far away from technical stuffs they will be. Take this into account.

No one can deny that there is an issue, because it’s a fact. Maybe currently, it can’t be fixed, OK, but due to the flexibility/freedom and large portfolio available in linux is a kind of system integration challenging, but this puzzle game needs to be played for developers and not users. Maybe also this is one of the reasons that there are so many distros.

The idea behind providing feedback as user, is to support the issue to be fixed as fast as possible in the best way as possible and because we want to support the improvement of the distro we chosen to use.

[alven]

@lordsansui

No one can deny that there is an issue, because it’s a fact. Maybe currently, it can’t be fixed, OK

You can join the developers teams and to look it from inside and try to address all issues for years in a row for free or for some donations you will have.

I can fully understand you from a user point of view, but that’s only one side of the issue.

Now you can switch to makers point of view in try to understand common OSS problems a bit deeper.

@lordsansui

but this puzzle game

If that’s toolbar view setup is a hard puzzle, and you do not plan to think a bit, than currently it is hard to suggest you any GNU/Linux distro. May be to try to be a bit more skilled to make yourself able to try generate ideas why something happens and what it depends on and to try to realize relations and to fix an issue? or to ask community - users just like you.

@lordsansui

Regardless all technical characteristics of the applications and DE environment from user point of view I think it can be simplified as two options:
…

It is the upstream app, to make your ideas be able to implement, a package owners should know about it. Please try to file an issue report there. You can help yourself and others in future by getting a fix or probably will know makers/developers feedback on your idea.

Cheers!

[lordsansui]

I think donations to Manjaro team is better and safer, so they can grow and have the right people to do the right thing. I don’t think that all user have the skills, the ability or even time to invest learning programming languages.

Me an others can learn to do something small as DIY here and there, but we should not invert the responsibility, I’m glad for Manjaro and I will support this distro the best way I can, but again, don’t expect users to be developers, this is a wrong community understand for long.

Everybody expressed his thoughts about the issue, so, from my side, this thread can be closed.