Another Wayland inquiry - 560 series drivers required with Nvidia/Wayland?

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I am testing KDE on a spare computer so I bought a cheap Nvidia 1030GT to see where we are with Nvidia/Wayland. Sadly, I am just getting a black screen with Wayland with the offered nvidia 550 drivers. The old 1030 is using the 550 series which is not good enough apparently for that combo. Is the 560 drivers required for wayland ? Anybody has success on older Nvidia cards ? Probably “nouveau” works but it is underwhelming with NV cards.

Mind you the card works fine on X11 with the drivers. Btw Windows drivers are even 565 for that card.

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Is there a reason to use Wayland with your nvidia card?

My 2080Ti works flawless in KDE with X11 :man_shrugging:

Everything older than Turing GPU’s 20X0, only partial support the 560 Driver, as far i understand the situation.

You may still can use it, but with a handicap for gaming… if you using your GT 1030 for 3D Applications/Games, you probably will archive less fps there.

Anyways, the 550 driver should work with Wayland also.

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Wayland doesn’t require 560 drivers but it’s unlikely you see any advantages of using it compared to X11.

Since you didn’t provide any system information or journal logs it’s hard to say what exactly is wrong with your setup.

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It is not really for gaming but more for testing. X11 is long in the tooth and Wayland should be the one to use from now on. kde does not offer me the 560 series in the drivers section. Strangely the Nvidia drivers site had the 560 in August but revert to the 550 in September. I suspect there were many problems with 560 ?

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MSI 450 series MB, Ryzen 5 2600, Nvidia GT1030 2GB ddr5, 16 GB DDR4. I am on the testing branch of the latest Kde offering.

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This is not system information.
inxi -Fazy

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Yes it is called “system information”. I am not on the right computer right now. What else do you need ???

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Do you see the command I suggested that you use to provide system information?

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yes but for security reason, I am not giving all that info. It is the latest kde release with the 6.11.3 Kernel.

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There is no security risk with inxi -Fazy and xorg will be supported in Manjaro for quite awhile.There are many posts here in the forum about how to set up nvidia and use wayland as well.The search option works very well.

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I am not interested in X11. For verification, I also test on another computer (FX6300) with my GT1030. I am using Kubuntu 24.10 there and it offer me to install the Nvidia 560 (560.35) driver series. I seems to work perfectly there in Wayland !!!
I am surprise that Manjaro doesn’t offer me also 560 ??

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If you’re open to getting an AMD GPU instead, you will very likely have less issues to deal with in Wayland (or X11, for that matter).

I’m currently using an RX580 and running Wayland exclusively for the most part of a year; no issues.

Naturally, you should do your homework with compatibility in mind, as no one brand is perfect for every occasion. :smile_cat:

That is all.

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A lot of us here have been using the 560 driver on the unstable branch with no issue’s.I do not know about the 1030 cards but my 1050 card which is getting old as well runs with the 560 driver with kde and wayland.

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From my information that i collected i assume that X11 and Wayland are on a head to head race right now, it depends on the Hardware and the Software what the person prefer.

I don’t see a clear widespread recommendation to use Wayland.

We may see this goal in a year, but not right now.

Its available in unstable branch.

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Oh I have a lot of AMD cards and they work fine in X11/Wayland Linux. My main computer is running successfully a RX6600 in Manjaro Xfce. I am not looking to get a new graphic card now. I was just testing where we are with Wayland/Nv. Still from what I read, Nvidia commend 88% of the graphic cards market. The news lately shows that Nvidia is working to improve their Linux drivers on Wayland. Also Nvidia is entering a collaboration with Arch. That’s good news…

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Thanks. Wayland is the way to go from now on. Its a more modern and a more efficient graphic server. More people should push it. Ubuntu is defaulting to Wayland on Nvidia, starting with 24.10. I thought that Manjaro was cutting edge so they should be at the forefront of that move. Imo, I don’t see why people still recommending X11 which is a 40 years old technology.

So 560 is available in the unstable branch. I am on “testing” but “unstable” is a bit to shaky for me. I hope the team will be pushing it higher, even in “stable”. I saw that Kde is already running Plasma 6.2 which is great.

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Good news, indeed.

However, it remains to be seen whether Nvidia will actually deliver on their promises. I think it’s more likely they will favour support for Enterprise Linux, and maybe Debian/Ubuntu, but for other players nothing much will change.

Let’s hope I’m wrong.

Cheers.

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Since it seems to take forever for packages to move from unstable to testing, I decide to move to the unstable branch to get the new 560 series Nvidia driver with my new 1030. I switch to the new branch repos alright and tried to update with the new packages. I get an error “v86d: /sbin already exist in the file system” (in French) and it won’t go further. I check and there is no v86d file in /sbin. I cannot remove v86d in the package manager since it is required by mhwd.

How can I go further ? Tx

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Could you please post the full output showing any errors?
This might be useful for someone.

For example:

LC_ALL=C sudo pacman -Syu

The LC_ALL=C will force command output to English.

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Ah ! with your command, the update (175) went through without problem. I was using " sudo pacman-mirrors --fasttrack 5 && sudo pacman -Syyu" but anyhow it works with your command. It then propose an update for v86d which went ok. I am in “unstable” now. Thanks.
Let see, if I get the 560 drivers now.

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