Worried about Manjaro Arm update

Hey everyone I hope you are doing all well

I am just making a post to ask about Manjaro Arm, it’s been quite a while since I have seen any package updates for Manjaro ARM and was getting worried about the status of the ARM project and worried about it getting behind on packages or running into problems. I also have some question about what is going on with the ARM packages

Also relevant to the topic of packages for Arm from news I have heard but don’t know if it is actually true, is Arch Linux adding official support for Arm?

Thank you for your time.

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I run manjaro on my rpi devices and a pinebook pro with no issues; unstable branch in use, that is were the updates are.

If your devices are stable - then why worry?

It is no secret

  • that arm based devices were hyped as the next big thing - and that didn’t happen
  • that Manjaro is relying on Archlinux Arm
  • that both Archlinux Arm and Manjaro Arm has few volunteers
  • arm devices is not standardized like x86, making it difficult to support devices

I’m not worried because I am having issues I just am reaching out with concern because of how long it’s been since stable has has a updates which would usually come in a big load of them but have has none for multiple months (I think since October last year)

I am worried about issues arising from the lack of updates with packages/dependencies and worried about how this suddenly happened when there was a constant healthy stream of updates in the past or even compared to X86_84

I understand all that I just wanted to reach out to find out what was happening and if everything was okay because I was getting worried about Arm support over the months with Manjaro :slight_smile:

Should I switch to Unstable branch especially as a package maintainer/ developer? if so how do I do that?

Well, the most powerful offerings from Apple and Microsoft are ARM if i am not mistaken. Most smart devices are also ARM. So arm is somewhat seeping into everywhere. It doesn’t seem like it is going away. So in a way, arm doesn’t really seem like it is a hype thing. It has substance.

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That would bring you on par with upstream

Same as x86

sudo pacman-mirrors -aS unstable
sudo pacman -Syu

Or manually edit the file /etc/pacman-mirrors.conf to use arm-unstable

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Everything is working fine on my side. Minimal image Raspberry Pi 4 - unstable

Used as my home server will be replaced later on by refurbished thinkcentre (cluster)

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Same here I am just worried with the lack of updates to Manjaro Arm :slight_smile:

That’s very true and I wasn’t saying it was but what I worry about is the lack of updates Manjaro Arm has been having on the stable branch that Manjaro uses by default on the image which hasn’t been updated for months compared to the x64 iso

Arm is amazing I know the development will continue as it has been in many fields :slight_smile:

Great thanks for letting me know, I ask because I actually haven’t ever done it or needed to on Manjaro as I mainly use it on my laptop and desktop :smiley:

If the updates have been in unstable why haven’t they trickled down to stable yet if you don’t mind me asking? Does it need more testing?

ManjaroArm parasitic on AarchArm not rely on.
AarchArm fall ManjaroArm fall.
in future, more SOC will come, solo DEV(s) can not handle that.
me-PI4 will move back to PiOS.

The problem with ARM is not its lack of popularity or support. The problem i think is fragmentation. Every hardware manufacturer of ARM boards has a different take with different components requiring all different firmwares and drivers. So you are somewhat forced to use the manufacurer’s in-house operating system. Linux as is is doing a magnificient job of supporting almost anything in the kitchen sink. Compare it to windows, which is not free, it is an amazing effort. If there was half the uniformity of x86 for ARM, things would be a lot different.

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Some vendors like RasberryPI offer their own OS to support their hardware. Others sponsor distributors like armbian. In the past we had one employee full-time to do our ARM branch. However, since one of our main sponsor didnt continued we had to let him go.

When I find time I might sync with Arch ARM and the remaining team members might update their packages they care about.

To do regular updates you have to test all supported devices on all provided images, which takes a lot of effort and time. This we cant provide in our current capacity.

However we are open to on board new people as volunteers.

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python rust llvm clang…etc, need update & tons of packages need rebuild.
Oh gosh, dead duck can’t fly, over&over again.
people love Arch-base but not this way.
better close this project, no volunteers.

If you have been keeping up in the arch-arm forums you would know that they have put the mirrors on lockdown due to major upgrade rebuilds that has been going on for a while. Then after that is done and they open back up the mirrors you will then complain about a large upgrade size and your bandwidth. So be careful what you wish for.

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yep, note that.
will update a package/day, e.g. mesa^^

dead duck alive again^^