Why RT kernels boot and LTS kernels don't boot on my system

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I’m running an RT kernel and can only change to other RT kernels. If I try to boot any LTS kernels the boot process stalls at the “root clean” stage. I’ve switched mirrors between stable and unstable with no luck. The cause I believe has to do with nvidia drivers but not sure. Any ideas?

   inxi --admin --verbosity=7 --filter --no-host --width
System:
  Kernel: 6.0.5-3-rt14-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 12.2.1
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.0-rt-x86_64
    root=UUID=649e0b3a-4dee-4243-b844-ee395fae1f3a rw quiet apparmor=1
    security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.18.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.36 info: xfce4-panel wm: xfwm
    v: 4.18.0 vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0 Distro: Manjaro Linux base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7C37 v: 1.0
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Micro-Star model: MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI (MS-7C37) v: 1.0
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI: American Megatrends v: 1.80
    date: 04/20/2020
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech M510 serial: <filter>
    charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes status: discharging
Memory:
  RAM: total: 15.57 GiB used: 1.43 GiB (9.2%)
  RAM Report: permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 3
    level: v3 note: check built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm) family: 0x17 (23)
    model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0 microcode: 0x8701013
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 6 tpc: 2 threads: 12 smt: enabled cache:
    L1: 384 KiB desc: d-6x32 KiB; i-6x32 KiB L2: 3 MiB desc: 6x512 KiB L3: 32 MiB
    desc: 2x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 3265 high: 3787 min/max: 2200/4208 boost: enabled
    scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil cores: 1: 3600 2: 3787
    3: 2200 4: 3600 5: 2200 6: 3600 7: 3600 8: 3600 9: 3599 10: 3600 11: 3600
    12: 2200 bogomips: 86397
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1
    bmi2 bpext cat_l3 cdp_l3 clflush clflushopt clwb clzero cmov cmp_legacy
    constant_tsc cpb cpuid cqm cqm_llc cqm_mbm_local cqm_mbm_total
    cqm_occup_llc cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists extapic extd_apicid
    f16c flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibpb ibs
    irperf lahf_lm lbrv lm mba mca mce misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor movbe
    msr mtrr mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw overflow_recov pae
    pat pausefilter pclmulqdq pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_llc perfctr_nb
    pfthreshold pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rapl rdpid rdpru rdrand rdseed rdt_a
    rdtscp rep_good sep sev sev_es sha_ni skinit smap smca smep ssbd sse sse2
    sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 stibp succor svm svm_lock syscall tce topoext
    tsc tsc_scale umip v_spec_ctrl v_vmsave_vmload vgif vmcb_clean vme vmmcall
    wbnoinvd wdt xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveerptr xsaveopt xsaves
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP
    protection
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines, IBPB: conditional, STIBP:
    always-on, RSB filling, PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: nvidia v: 525.85.05 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 525.xx+
    status: current (as of 2022-12) arch: Pascal code: GP10x process: TSMC 16nm
    built: 2016-21 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 2d:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:1c82 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.6 compositor: xfwm v: 4.18.0 driver: N/A
    display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 508x286mm (20.00x11.26")
    s-diag: 583mm (22.95")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-0 res: 1920x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 93
    size: 527x296mm (20.75x11.65") diag: 604mm (23.8") modes: N/A
  API: OpenGL Message: Unable to show GL data. Required tool glxinfo missing.
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 1-2:3 pcie: chip-ID: 1235:8200
    class-ID: 0103 gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 2d:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb9 class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: AMD Starship/Matisse HD Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 2f:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Focusrite-Novation Scarlett 2i4 USB type: USB
    driver: snd-usb-audio
  Sound API: ALSA v: k6.0.5-3-rt14-MANJARO running: yes
  Sound Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.21 running: no
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 16.1 running: yes
  Sound Server-3: PipeWire v: 0.3.65 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: Micro-Star MSI X570-A PRO driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1
    speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: d000 bus-ID: 27:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp39s0 state: up speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  Device-2: Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 3168NGW [Stone Peak] driver: iwlwifi
    v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 29:00.0
    chip-ID: 8086:24fb class-ID: 0280
  IF: wlp41s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel Wireless-AC 3168 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb v: 0.8
    bus-ID: 1-4:5 chip-ID: 8087:0aa7 class-ID: e001
  Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: see --recommends
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 3.18 TiB used: 48.89 GiB (1.5%)
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Samsung
    model: SSD 970 EVO Plus 500GB size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 type: SSD serial: <filter>
    rev: 1B2QEXM7 temp: 36.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000LM035-1RK172
    size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter> rev: EB01 scheme: MBR
  ID-3: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Seagate model: ST1000DM010-2EP102
    size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    type: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> rev: CC43 scheme: MBR
  ID-4: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 type: USB vendor: Toshiba
    model: External USB 3.0 size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 5438 scheme: MBR
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 49.8 GiB size: 48.72 GiB (97.82%) used: 28.27 GiB (58.0%)
    fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:2 label: root
    uuid: 649e0b3a-4dee-4243-b844-ee395fae1f3a
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 512 MiB size: 511 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 288 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1
    label: NO_LABEL uuid: 5F3E-A57D
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 415.45 GiB size: 407.86 GiB (98.17%)
    used: 20.62 GiB (5.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:3
    label: home uuid: f9aa4b24-53fa-4ee3-80e7-4b18578b5fee
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 931.51 GiB fs: ext4 label: BlackSea
    uuid: 09196f59-6ba7-4ba8-ba8b-1fb59fe0ed11
  ID-2: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 size: 931.51 GiB fs: ext4 label: MoreStuff
    uuid: c2f19236-a268-4975-91d3-2f8797e561af
  ID-3: /dev/sdc1 maj-min: 8:33 size: 931.51 GiB fs: ext4 label: Snapshots
    uuid: ab779d90-eee3-402c-bff0-1275818e1bec
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-2: 1-1:2 info: Texas Instruments ports: 5 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s
    chip-ID: 0451:8342 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-1.1:4 info: Logitech Unifying Receiver type: Keyboard,Mouse,HID
    driver: logitech-djreceiver,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s
    power: 98mA chip-ID: 046d:c52b class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 1-1.5:6 info: Texas Instruments type: HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    chip-ID: 0451:82ff class-ID: 0300 serial: <filter>
  Device-3: 1-2:3 info: Focusrite-Novation Scarlett 2i4 USB type: Audio
    driver: snd-usb-audio interfaces: 6 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 1235:8200 class-ID: 0103
  Device-4: 1-4:5 info: Intel Wireless-AC 3168 Bluetooth type: Bluetooth
    driver: btusb interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 8087:0aa7 class-ID: e001
  Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-4: 2-1:2 info: Texas Instruments ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 5 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 0451:8340 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 3-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 3-5:2 info: Micro Star MYSTIC LIGHT type: HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 1462:7c37 class-ID: 0300 serial: <filter>
  Hub-6: 3-6:3 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s
    power: 100mA chip-ID: 05e3:0608 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 4-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 4-3:2 info: Toshiba America External USB 3.0 type: Mass Storage
    driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s power: 896mA
    chip-ID: 0480:0101 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Hub-8: 5-0:1 info: Hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-1:2 info: Logitech Illuminated Keyboard type: Keyboard,Mouse
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s power: 300mA
    chip-ID: 046d:c318 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 5-4:3 info: Brother Industries HL-L2340D series type: Printer
    driver: usblp interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 2mA
    chip-ID: 04f9:0063 class-ID: 0701 serial: <filter>
  Hub-9: 6-0:1 info: Super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1 speed: 10 Gb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0003 class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 38.8 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 26 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0%
Info:
  Processes: 376 Uptime: 2h 58m wakeups: 9 Init: systemd v: 252
  default: graphical tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 12.2.1 clang: 15.0.7
  Packages: pm: pacman pkgs: 1622 libs: 499 tools: pamac pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
  Shell: Bash v: 5.1.16 running-in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.24
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You must provide system information. Otherwise, it’s useless to assume anything.

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I love assumptions!

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You may do, but it’s wasted time if I assume anything which turned out to be wrong which could have been avoided by simply adding your system’s information.

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ok, updated.

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That is not my field of expertise. (maybe @brahma can help)

Things to try when booting other kernel:
  • disable apparmor (just in case)
  • disable quiet (to get more info on screen while starting the kernel)
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and does it also happen with the fallback option of the non rt kernel?
can you boot into manjaro live usb? since they ship by default with normal kernels?
and yes, we need logs from the failed boot… so boot with the normal kernel, when stuck reboot, and then provide logs from the failed boot:
journalctl -b-1 -p4 --no-pager

and also provide output from:
mhwd-kernel -li && mhwd -l -li
pacman -Qs nvidia

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it does not happen with fallback rt kernels. i can boot from a live usb.

journalctl -b-1 -p4 --no-pager
Feb 05 05:07:59 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel:   #7  #8  #9 #10 #11
Feb 05 05:07:59 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: Expanded resource Reserved due to conflict with PCI Bus 0000:00
Feb 05 05:07:59 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: usb: port power management may be unreliable
Feb 05 05:07:59 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: nvme nvme0: missing or invalid SUBNQN field.
Feb 05 05:07:58 ■■■■■■■■■■■ systemd-modules-load[327]: Failed to find module 'nvidia'
Feb 05 05:07:58 ■■■■■■■■■■■ systemd-modules-load[327]: Failed to find module 'nvidia-drm'
Feb 05 05:07:58 ■■■■■■■■■■■ systemd-modules-load[327]: Failed to find module 'nvidia-uvm'
Feb 05 05:07:59 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: acpi PNP0C14:02: duplicate WMI GUID 05901221-D566-11D1-B2F0-00A0C9062910 (first instance was on PNP0C14:01)
Feb 05 05:07:59 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:00 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:00 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:00 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: thermal thermal_zone0: failed to read out thermal zone (-61)
Feb 05 05:08:00 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:00 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:00 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:00 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:00 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:01 ■■■■■■■■■■■ systemd[1258]: ConfigurationDirectory 'bluetooth' already exists but the mode is different. (File system: 755 ConfigurationDirectoryMode: 555)
Feb 05 05:08:01 ■■■■■■■■■■■ bluetoothd[1258]: profiles/audio/vcp.c:vcp_init() D-Bus experimental not enabled
Feb 05 05:08:01 ■■■■■■■■■■■ bluetoothd[1258]: src/plugin.c:plugin_init() Failed to init vcp plugin
Feb 05 05:08:01 ■■■■■■■■■■■ bluetoothd[1258]: profiles/audio/mcp.c:mcp_init() D-Bus experimental not enabled
Feb 05 05:08:01 ■■■■■■■■■■■ bluetoothd[1258]: src/plugin.c:plugin_init() Failed to init mcp plugin
Feb 05 05:08:01 ■■■■■■■■■■■ bluetoothd[1258]: profiles/audio/bap.c:bap_init() D-Bus experimental not enabled
Feb 05 05:08:01 ■■■■■■■■■■■ bluetoothd[1258]: src/plugin.c:plugin_init() Failed to init bap plugin
Feb 05 05:08:01 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:01 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kvm: support for 'kvm_amd' disabled by bios
Feb 05 05:08:06 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: kauditd_printk_skb: 137 callbacks suppressed
Feb 05 05:08:25 ■■■■■■■■■■■ systemd[1]: run-credentials-systemd\x2dtmpfiles\x2dsetup.service.mount: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Feb 05 05:08:26 ■■■■■■■■■■■ kernel: watchdog: watchdog0: watchdog did not stop!

The following kernels are installed in your system:
   * linux60
   * linux60-rt
> Installed PCI configs:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          video-nvidia            2021.12.18               false            PCI


Warning: No installed USB configs!
> 0000:2d:00.0 (0300:10de:1c82) Display controller nVidia Corporation:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
          video-nvidia            2021.11.04               false            PCI
    video-nvidia-470xx            2021.11.04               false            PCI
    video-nvidia-390xx            2021.11.26               false            PCI
           video-linux            2018.05.04                true            PCI
     video-modesetting            2020.01.13                true            PCI
            video-vesa            2017.03.12                true            PCI


> 0000:27:00.0 (0200:10ec:8168) Network controller Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                  NAME               VERSION          FREEDRIVER           TYPE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
         network-r8168            2016.04.20                true            PCI

pacman -Qs nvidia
local/egl-wayland 2:1.1.11-3
    EGLStream-based Wayland external platform
local/lib32-libvdpau 1.5-1
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 525.85.05-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/libvdpau 1.5-1
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/libxnvctrl 525.85.05-1
    NVIDIA NV-CONTROL X extension
local/linux60-rt-nvidia 525.85.05-1 (linux60-rt-extramodules)
    NVIDIA drivers for linux
local/mhwd-nvidia 525.85.05-1
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia 525.85.05
local/mhwd-nvidia-390xx 390.157-1
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia 390.157
local/mhwd-nvidia-470xx 470.161.03-1
    MHWD module-ids for nvidia 470.161.03
local/nvidia-utils 525.85.05-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities
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i meant non rt fallback kernels…
but seing this:

you dont have installed kernel modules for the normal 60 kernel, like you have for the linux60-rt one:

and also these 6.0 kernels are going to be no longer supported, so install the 6.1 for example:
sudo mhwd-kernel -i linux61
after its installed check with:
pacman -Qs linux61-nvidia
if the nvidia modules were installed, if not install them with:
sudo pacman -S linux61-nvidia
if they were installed, reboot, you should automatically boot with the new 6.1 kernel, and then uninstall the 6.0 kernels

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