For me fix was install back the X11.
CLTR+ALT+F5 login and
sudo pacman -S plasma-x11-session
then reboot the system and login to my desktop.
btw I am with some old nvidia on my laptop, 0000:01:00.0 (0300:10de:0dfa) video-nvidia-390xx
I’d be interested to know how many people’s installations were broken by switching from X11 to Wayland.
It won’t be very long until x11 support will be completely gone from Plasma (for Gnome it already is gone).
Better start looking for other options - with the next update, your solution won’t work anymore.
And how many of those used older Nvidia…
Hey, not everyone’s in a position to toss out a perfectly working notebook just because of some fancy new Plasma update pushing Wayland. For now, reinstalling the X11 session (sudo pacman -S plasma-x11-session) got me back up and running, and it might help others in the same boat with older hardware. Let’s keep the convo constructive-old hardware users aren’t the enemy here.
I read in KDE Forum that X11 support is still granted for 2026 and KDE user’s are forced to Wayland not before 2027.
Spoiler Alert Wayland sucks, even for user’s like me who has a supported GPU that runs on Wayland.
Phil has just posted in the announcement topic, a new tool should detect the best driver for old nvidia cards.
I can confirm this on my second business-grade laptop, which is only 3 years old. Wayland has been such a headache that I switched back to X11 on this device too. It struggles with basic tasks like switching from one HDMI output to another, for example, when I need to present in a meeting room, I often have to reboot the entire notebook just to connect to the big TV there, and then again when I return to my working desk. It also fails to handle a docking station with multiple monitors properly. Overall, it’s been an awful experience.
For reference, here’s the hardware and driver info from mhwd on this notebook:
> 0000:6c:00.0 (0302:10de:1d13) Display controller nVidia Corporation:
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NAME VERSION FREEDRIVER TYPE
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video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-prime 2025.09.29 false PCI
video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-470xx-prime 2025.09.28 false PCI
video-nvidia 2025.09.29 false PCI
video-nvidia-575xx 2025.09.29 false PCI
video-nvidia-570xx 2025.09.29 false PCI
video-nvidia-470xx 2023.03.23 false PCI
video-linux 2024.05.06 true PCI
> 0000:00:02.0 (0300:8086:9bca) Display controller Intel Corporation:
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NAME VERSION FREEDRIVER TYPE
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video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-prime 2025.09.29 false PCI
video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-470xx-prime 2025.09.28 false PCI
video-linux 2024.05.06 true PCI
video-modesetting 2020.01.13 true PCI
video-vesa 2017.03.12 true PCI
There was no inference that was the case. However, the lion’s share of issues with Wayland seem to come from users of older Nvidia product. That’s just how it is.
And, yes, that’s no doubt one of the reasons it remained as a possibility, even after the KDE switch to Wayland. Unfortunately for many Gnome users, that wasn’t even an option.
It was a legitimate addon to your comment. Clearly you misinterpreted it to mean something else.
If you’re interested, I believe @DeLinuxCo has at least one Manjaro spin that uses XLibre – it might be worth looking at.
If all you are interested in is continuing to enable an old laptop to continue to function, and it sounds that way from what I have read so far, replace the proprietary drivers with the open source Nouveau driver.
I am using that on an old Dell 5110 laptop, with an old nVidia GPU. It works perfectly fine on Wayland. In addition I get decent Multi Monitor support with individual Monitor fractional scaling.
BTW: Any issues with nVidia and Wayland are due to nVidia, not wayland. In fact any and all issues with nVidia on Linux are totally due to nVidia corporate decisions.
Not true at all Nvidia X Server Settings has no option for all nvidia gpu’s, no matter if the GPU is old or brand new. The second where you want to adjust anything display related, clearly shows how limiting you are with your device’s on Wayland.
This is true, but that doesn’t made the situation anywhere better when some Desktop Environment like Gnome or KDE in near future forcing us to use Wayland.
Which is why when I have a choice I buy a computer with Intel or AMD. If I don’t have a choice and the computer comes with nVidia, I use the Open Source nouveau driver.
I don’t try to make a silk purse out of a Sow’s ear.
Easy to say when you are on Linux already. But i have a more realistic viewpoint. People coming from Windows and Nvidia was always the better choice in the past than AMD, at least most of the time (not always) since ATI, specially for gaming. It’s simple you get more bang for the bug.
GPU’s can be expensive and Nouveau driver’s aren’t a solution for gamer’s. But for sure its better than a dead GPU, at least Media/Browsing is still working there.
No, they are not.
The simple answer is do not buy nVidia GPUs if you are a gamer.
Yes, I do realise people coming from Windows who have an nVidia GPU are caught between a rock and a hard place. Unfortunately that is all on nVidia,
That is not what people want to hear, I know.
Other options, might be to install a desktop that still offers X11, and may support X11 for an indeffinite period of time.
Cinnamon
Budgie
LxQt
are potential candidates. these desktops are available with a Manjaro base from SBk Spins at SbK Spins - Manjaro Linux Forum
This might provide some relief for people stuck with nVidia GPUs.
Another X and Openbox based Manjaro spin is Mabox.
Nvidia-driver-assistant detects a Geforce 860M as 750TI.
$ nvidia-driver-assistant
Detected GPUs:NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti - (pci_id 0x1392)
Please copy and paste the following command to install the legacy kernel module flavour:sudo pacman -S linux66-nvidia-580xx
$ inxi -Fz
Device-2: NVIDIA GM107M [GeForce GTX 860M] driver: nvidia v: 470.256.02Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.21 driver: X:
If you look at the data file provided by Nvidia /usr/share/nvidia-driver-assistant/supported-gpus.json you will find that several Nvidia GPU share the same devid0x1392 which is what the driver assistant use to identify the card and which drivers is supported for the given device-id.
{
"devid": "0x1392",
"name": "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M",
"legacybranch": "575.xx",
"features":
[
"hdmi4k",
"vdpaufeaturesetE"
]
},
{
"devid": "0x1392",
"subdevid": "0x066A",
"subvendorid": "0x1028",
"name": "NVIDIA GeForce GPU",
"legacybranch": "575.xx",
"features":
[
"hdmi4k",
"vdpaufeaturesetE"
]
},
{
"devid": "0x1392",
"subdevid": "0x861E",
"subvendorid": "0x1043",
"name": "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti",
"legacybranch": "575.xx",
"features":
[
"hdmi4k",
"vdpaufeaturesetE"
]
},
{
"devid": "0x1392",
"subdevid": "0x86D9",
"subvendorid": "0x1043",
"name": "NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti",
"legacybranch": "575.xx",
"features":
[
"hdmi4k",
"vdpaufeaturesetE"
]
},
Which is in fact right since they are very similar keppler gpus and that is what matter. Maybe the detection can be renamed to list a group of similar gps (“kepler family detected, for example…”).
What bothers me in the above post ist that the assistant seems to offer the newest 580 driver for that old gpu. This doesn’t seem right. But i am not nvidia competent, maybe it is not that old and works.
Nvidia suggests 580.xx but as it should be known by now, that driver has issues, which is why Manjaro Team opted to use 575..xx instead of 580.xx
"legacybrach": "575.xx",
Nvidia suggests 580xx but as Philip had to correct a known discrepancy in the datafile
It was decided to suggest 575xx when the script is run on Manjaro.
Especially since 580 generates issues with xfce.
It is quite possible that you would get a different result if you ran the equivalent on Ubuntu.
Arch and Manjaro is not supported by Nvidia - which is why the Manjaro Team has adapted the script and the database for use on Manjaro.
I am fairly certain we will hear this decision debated at some point 
what bothers you if your not competent ???
580.106.08 does support the older gpu’s 10xx series… !!!