Hiho,
when I’m starting a game using Proton, die button changes from play to cancle and after a second or so back to play, no error message nothing.
but if i disable proton it just uses wine and works.
proton logs wont help much:
Proton: 1708943904 experimental-bleeding-edge-8.0-82496-20240226-p479bb6-wa058f1-d9004c1-v806fd7
SteamGameId: 1651560
Command: ['/home/alex/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/Fabledom/Fabledom.exe']
Options: {'forcelgadd'}
depot: 0.20240415.84603
pressure-vessel: 0.20240415.0 scout
scripts: 0.20240415.0
sniper: 0.20240415.84603 sniper 0.20240415.84603
Kernel: Linux 6.6.30-2-MANJARO #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Wed May 8 17:46:43 UTC 2024 x86_64
Language: LC_ALL None, LC_MESSAGES None, LC_CTYPE None
Effective WINEDEBUG: +timestamp,+pid,+tid,+seh,+unwind,+threadname,+debugstr,+loaddll,+mscoree
thanks in advance for ur suggestions
So you mean, you didn’t force enable a specific proton version? Well probably the developer has enabled/tested with a specific version , so that Linux Users don’t have to force enable it.
As you see here:
recommended_runtime proton-8.0-1https://steamdb.info/app/1651560/info/
Hi Alexander,
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@megavolt
oh sorry i didnt make that clear: problem with any game, not just this one. thatswhy i wrote “proton” and not “fabledom” ^^
@Kobold
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Well, you gave this example and I took it as an example. Proton is a wrapper for Wine. So when you talk about Wine or Proton, you mean essentially Wine.
I don’t understand this sentence and it doesn’t make any sense. What Wine?
ive got wine installed. so if I disable “Enable Steam Play for all other titles” I still can click run but it will use my “normal” wine installation.
At that point you misunderstood. Steam will never use your “normal” wine. “Enable Steam Play for all other titles” means: force enable Proton also where the developer didn’t tick the checkmark to let it run with proton because of reasons.
Ok, so I was just dumb? Nice, thank you very much
I thought I would have to enable it to run unverified games ^^, but why the hell does it break when I enable it?
Most likely because it forces all Windows games to use the latest “experimental” Proton/Wine version, which is not compatible with every game. Some games require a specific version that includes a fix for that specific game, etc.
You can set the proton version for each game then.
As Megavolt already mentioned, you can set proton version for each game.
So you can reenable “global steam proton to experimental”.
But when you have problems for 1 game only, you can right click on this game in your library and click on properties>compatibility>and activate the compatibility tool where you can choose the exact proton version, that maybe fit better to this game… than the experimental proton version.
After this change, the new other proton version will automatical downloaded for the selected game.
omano
25 May 2024 10:21
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No, the Proton version you need to configure, in Steam settings, should be the latest stable version, no experimental, and no BETA on the experimental, like here the user runs experimental branch, with the bleeding edge hourly/daily beta builds.
You set latest stable Proton in Steam settings, and IF REALLY NEEDED FOR SPECIFIC REASON you can enable a per title Proton version, like the Experimental branch, and/or its Bleeding Edge beta builds…
Delete (or keep somewhere for savegame restoration later if needed) the Proton prefix for the game to start over fresh, and rebuild it by starting the game on the standard latest Proton version you have set in Steam Settings (don’t force any version on the game Properties). If really needed, you can force another Proton version for the game, like the previous 8 version. See, still no Experimental Proton here, you should never have to use this version if you’re not involved in Proton development or bug hunting, or if you don’t know specifically why you should use these versions.
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Agreed. Don’t use Proton experimental, it’s just asking for trouble. The clue is in the name - it’s experimental
When I install a Windows game I just choose whatever the latest stable version is (currently Proton 9.0-1). The only reason to use anything else is if you have problems with that specific game, in which case look it up on ProtonDB and see if other users are recommending a specific version of Proton or other workarounds.
@omano @MrLavender
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omano
25 May 2024 16:04
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I use Experimental Bleeding Edge version, on specific game, for specific reason.
^ This. There is no good reason to use it by default for every game.
Kobold:
Better performance?
There is no significant performance difference in most games.
Again, if it is necessary to use experimental for a specific game then of course, do that.
Using experimental for everything is exactly what caused OP’s problem…
I don’t see any info, where OP confirmed this.
Many people still use the Experimental version, you see them under ProtonDB.
Go here>
Search for the game then see what version of proton others are using to get it to work.
Proton Stable
This is the default flavor of Proton
Proton Experimental
This flavor is intended for public testing of experimental features.
Understand now? Or do you want to argue with Valve too?
So I just left it unchecked.