Hello, I’m trying to figure out a way to configure four finger tap on my touchpad. I have a ThinkPad X13 Yoga, which means, I have a touchpad as well as a a touchscreen.
Now what I am aiming for is just a way to configure a command / anything for four finger taps.
I’ve tried to use libinput, which only supports 3 finger taps but 4 finger swipes (wtf dude >:c).
Maybe anyone knows a good way of configuring this?
It looks like you have already read the following, but I’ll paste it here anyway for the benefit of others:
libinput implements tapping for one, two, and three fingers, where supported by the hardware, and maps those taps into a left, right, and middle button click, respectively. This mapping can be switched to left, middle and right through configuration. Not all devices support three fingers, libinput will support tapping up to whatever is supported by the hardware. libinput does not support four-finger taps or any tapping with more than four fingers, even though some hardware can distinguish between that many fingers.
The only thing I can suggest is maybe try another desktop environment that does not use libinput (if there are any).
Output of the following command formatted according to forum requirements (3 backticks ``` before & after the pasted text) may also be useful for those wishing to help:
inxi --admin --verbosity=8 --filter --no-host --width
System:
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serial: <superuser required>
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part-nu: LENOVO_MT_21F2_BU_Think_FM_ThinkPad X13 Yoga Gen 4
uuid: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO v: N3OET35W (1.18 )
date: 10/29/2024
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prctl
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sanitization
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RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: SW sequence; BHI: BHI_DIS_S
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Graphics:
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v: kernel arch: Gen-13 process: Intel 7 (10nm) built: 2022+ ports:
active: eDP-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2, DP-3, DP-4, HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0
chip-ID: 8086:a7a1 class-ID: 0300
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speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 bus-ID: 3-4:4 chip-ID: 174f:11a8
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s-diag: 599mm (23.57")
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surfaces: xcb,xlib
Audio:
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driver: sof-audio-pci-intel-tgl
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tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
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IP v4: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: global broadcast: <filter>
IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: global
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WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
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Report: rfkill ID: hci0 rfk-id: 2 state: up address: see --recommends
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RAID:
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Drives:
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USB:
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Sensors:
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Repos:
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3: https://irltoolkit.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
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4: cpu: 5.7% command: vivaldi-bin pid: 2214 mem: 251.7 MiB (0.7%)
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3: mem: 372.4 MiB (1.1%) command: manjaro-hello started-by: python3
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4: mem: 261.8 MiB (0.8%) command: electron pid: 2440 cpu: 2.0%
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Info:
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image: 12.4 GiB services: org_kde_powerdevil, power-profiles-daemon,
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It feels a bit sad, that there is no possibility / no driver that supports that on KDE. libinput with touchegg supports touchscreen 4 finger tap gestures but not on touchpads? Even libinput says it tries to support all the fingers, but it doesn’t do 4
Nukiver:
It feels a bit sad
Yes, so sad. However the suggestion from @scotty65
might well be your only recourse.
I found the following thread on the Debian forum which discusses not using libinput – it resolved to replacing xserver-xorg-input-libinput with xserver-xorg-input-evdev.
Now, that post is quite old (2018) and obviously doesn’t give a clean cut solution to your problem, but it does seem to indicate that the Debian DE can be run without libinput. By extension this may infer that others can too.
This is something you probably shouldn’t contemplate experimenting with on a rolling release distribution such as Manjaro.
Regards.
But to even contemplate that suggestion, I’d need to be able to find all input drivers and see if any (if any at all) can do 4 finger taps. Is there any good resources on this?
Not that I know of; but others might.
