Thunar copies 70 GB NTFS files to NTFS Partition with 390 kb/s

How to speed up copying with thunar?

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Sorry System is not responsive any more: 
Manjaro Stable branch with XFCE

[john1@manjaro cron.hourly]$ inxi -F
System:    Host: manjaro Kernel: 5.10.70-1-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Xfce 4.16.0 Distro: Manjaro Linux
Machine:   Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 81RS v: Lenovo Yoga S740-14IIL serial: <superuser required>
           Mobo: LENOVO model: LNVNB161216 v: SDK0J40709 WIN serial: <superuser required> UEFI: LENOVO v: BYCN38WW
           date: 12/10/2020
Battery:   ID-1: BAT0 charge: 64.3 Wh (98.5%) condition: 65.3/62.0 Wh (105.3%)
CPU:       Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-1065G7 bits: 64 type: MT MCP cache: L2: 8 MiB
           Speed: 1300 MHz min/max: 400/3900 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1300 2: 1300 3: 1300 4: 1301 5: 1300 6: 1301 7: 1300
           8: 1302
Graphics:  Device-1: Intel Iris Plus Graphics G7 driver: i915 v: kernel
           Device-2: NVIDIA GP108M [GeForce MX250] driver: nvidia v: 470.63.01
           Device-3: Chicony Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo
           Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: loaded: modesetting,nvidia unloaded: nouveau resolution: 1: 1680x1050
           2: 1680x1050~60Hz
           Message: Unable to show advanced data. Required tool glxinfo missing.
Audio:     Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP Smart Sound Audio driver: sof-audio-pci
           Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.70-1-MANJARO running: yes
           Sound Server-2: PipeWire v: 0.3.38 running: yes
Network:   Device-1: Intel Ice Lake-LP PCH CNVi WiFi driver: iwlwifi
           IF: wlp0s20f3 state: down mac: f6:8f:b4:e2:2a:74
           Device-2: Realtek RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter type: USB driver: r8152
           IF: enp0s20f0u1 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:e0:4c:68:0d:55
           IF-ID-1: pan1 state: down mac: ae:70:cd:8d:12:df
Bluetooth: Device-1: Intel AX201 Bluetooth type: USB driver: btusb
           Report: rfkill ID: hci0 state: up address: see --recommends
Drives:    Local Storage: total: 1.97 TiB used: 355.6 GiB (17.6%)
           ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Micron model: MTFDHBA1T0TCK size: 953.87 GiB
           ID-2: /dev/sda type: USB vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EARX-00N0YB0 size: 931.51 GiB
           ID-3: /dev/sdb type: USB vendor: Kingston model: DataTraveler 2.0 size: 14.54 GiB
           ID-4: /dev/sdc type: USB vendor: JMicron Tech model: Generic size: 119.24 GiB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 57.9 GiB used: 34.24 GiB (59.1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p8
           ID-2: /boot/efi size: 259.5 MiB used: 105.5 MiB (40.7%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:      ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 16.67 GiB used: 256 KiB (0.0%) dev: /dev/nvme0n1p9
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 43.0 C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Info:      Processes: 297 Uptime: 4h 49m Memory: 15.2 GiB used: 2.56 GiB (16.8%) Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.08


Best speede was > 22 MB/s

First of all, NTFS is a proprietary filesystem, and the Linux kernel uses a userspace driver for that (via the FUSE framework) as opposed to an in-kernel driver. So that’s already going to slow things down.

Secondly, the title of your thread refers to files being copied between two NTFS volumes, of which you state one to be a partition. That leads me to assume that the other one might be a USB stick, and when it comes to that, then the speed of the USB bus and the speed of the USB stick are going to have an impact as well. A USB stick is very slow in comparison to a HDD or an SSD.

:man_shrugging:

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Sorry, i was not very clear:

I’m copying from USB attached HD to USB attached HD!

How does this influence tthe whole system?

Still have much to learn about Linux !

Both your input and your output are passing over the USB bus. USB is much slower than an SATA, SAS or Firewire bus.

:man_shrugging:

Ok, so i have to live with that.

Also astonishing: speed of copy varies between 23 MB/s and 300 kb/s and sync seems to speedit up a little bit.

AFAIK speed also greatly depend on the size of the file you’re copying. In my experience, the bigger the file, the faster it copies.

BUT: Don’t quote me on this…

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We is afraid so, Preciousss.

Yes, this depends on the buffering by either device, with the USB bus as the bottleneck.

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