The tones are missing in the Greek characters

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After more than a month with the latest “live DVD - KDE” (6.0.1 I think) yesterday I decided to install it to my machine. As I am Greek and live in Greece the installation followed the “time zone and locality” I had choose during the first set-up of the “live media” before the installation.
At the beginning the language was “English US” and I added “GREEK” and toggle between layouts by “Alt + Shift” (left Shift) and everything was nice. The Greek letters had tones ( ; then α, ε, η, ι, ο, ω) but now with the system installed to my sda NO TONES & no “short-cut” to toggle between layouts (just a “us” or “gr” at the down-right corner). I made same seeking but I didn’t found anything useful , so if someone can help , please do it.
By the way during the last month I was receiving regularly "updates’ and when the system asks for “restart” I was killing the X-server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) and the system restarted with longing “manjaro”

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to make it more clear:
λε;ιπουν οι τ;ονοι απ;ο τους Ελληνικο;υς χαρακτ;ηρες
instead of :
λείπουν οι τόνοι από τους Ελληνικούς χαρακτήρες

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Could you please clarify:

Are you seeing this in certain applications, the terminal, or KDE in general?

Perhaps choosing a different font might improve your experience. The Noto Sans/Serif fonts supposedly support all languages compatible with Unicode. Try setting one of that font family as the default in KDE.

I also found this list of polytonic fonts online, in case they may be useful:

You might also check that your locale settings use el_GR.UTF-8 (for Unicode) and not simply el_GR.

I found Fonts in GTK application in KDE Plasma 6.0.3 just look bad on KDE Discuss, but it doesn’t seem to fit what you describe.

Otherwise, I have nothing else to suggest. :man_shrugging:

Cheers.

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Thanks.
I’m already in the first link
Elias

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Are we to presume your issue is now solved?

If so, what was it that actually solved it; a change in font?

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Not solved. Maybe I’ll try to reinstall my system but without Greeks and Install them later. BUT when I have try this installation from “live DVD” everything was working as it should

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As it should.

Reinstalling for the sake of fonts seems a little extreme, but no doubt it will be effective. All I will suggest is downloading the latest full ISO of your Manjaro version, and creating a Ventoy USB to install it.

Cheers.

Create a Ventoy USB (ISO Launcher)

Boot with a Ventoy USB, and ISO files are automatically listed in the Ventoy menu, and can be booted directly. A 32GB capacity USB should allow ample space to store several ISOs of your choice; an 8GB capacity USB might hold one, or two ISO’s; do the math.

Ventoy is available from the official Manjaro extra repository:

sudo pacman -S ventoy
Ventoy Usage:

Type ventoy (without arguments) to see usage information:

Usage:  Ventoy2Disk.sh CMD [ OPTION ] /dev/sdX  
 CMD:  
  -i  install Ventoy to sdX (fails if disk already installed with Ventoy)  
  -I  force install Ventoy to sdX (no matter if installed or not)  
  -u  update Ventoy in sdX  
  -l  list Ventoy information in sdX  
  
 OPTION: (optional)  
  -r SIZE_MB  preserve some space at the bottom of the disk (only for install)  
  -s/-S       enable/disable secure boot support (default is enabled)  
  -g          use GPT partition style, default is MBR (only for install)  
  -L          Label of the 1st exfat partition (default is Ventoy)  
  -n          try non-destructive installation (only for install)

Creating the Ventoy USB:

Write the Ventoy system to an empty USB drive;
use /dev/sdX to target the device itself, and not a partition:

sudo sh ventoy -i -r 100 -S -g -L VOLUME /dev/sdX
  • Enable -s or disable -S Secure Boot.
  • Substitute VOLUME for a volume label name to use.
  • Substitute /dev/sdX for the location of your USB device.
  • Preserve some space on the target device (example allows 100mb).

Updating the Ventoy USB:

Update the Ventoy system on an existing Ventoy USB;
ensure the updated Ventoy version is available in Manjaro; and then:

sudo ventoy -u /dev/sdX
  • The Ventoy USB update process is non-destructive.

See also: Ventoy (GitHub);

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I have never use “ventoy” (I don’t like “volatile” media and for this reason I prefer DVD). Furthermore the last “change” to my system was to switch from XFCE to KDE (not familiar yet with it). What is the more “proper” application to burn a CD/DVD for KDE ?

PS. I have Intel J5040-itx motherboard with Intel GPU embedded and I don’t understand why I see Nvidia drivers (and updates for Nvidia)

Elias

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I have a question and a comment:

  • How did you switch to KDE? By installing Plasma on your existing system?
    … it is far better to do a fresh install when switching Desktop Environments, to avoid conflicts with configurations, etc…
  • You will see nvidia related updates (as I also do) because (some) drivers / kernel modules are included on a default installation; people might add an nvidia card later.

As for Ventoy, I haven’t had any issues with it; it’s also easy to verify the .ISO(s) you write to it using sha256sum -c /path-to-sha256sum-file … easiest is to copy that file to the stick and run it from there, avoiding having to put in the path.

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I did it with fresh installation.
In XFCE there is an application for sha256sum (very handy)
I’m not an enthusiast of terminal use and I use it ONLY if I have the specific commands

PS. Thanks for advices

Elias

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Good to know that it’s a fresh install.

I just tested it on mine, as I also have a Greek layout (in my case, switching layouts with SHIFT + CAPSLOCK, but this shouldn’t make a difference) for certain characters like Ω, which I haven’t found via a modifier key on en-gb layout, but it works fine here:
ό using the ; as in your example.

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And that’s a fair comment.

Although, there is as much potential for a failed burn as there is with any other method. The beauty of Ventoy is that once the ISO is downloaded, it’s not written to anything; one only needs to copy it (drag it) to the Ventoy USB (which only needs to be created once).

Manjaro offers many ways to write an ISO file to DVD:

Additionally, there are several GUI applications; Brasero, or K3B come to mind;
both are available from the official Manjaro repositories:

sudo pacman -S brasero k3b

During install, look for any optional dependencies or additions listed that might be of interest.

I hope this is helpful.

Cheers.

Yes, it seems counter-intuitive at first, until you consider that ISO’s are built for many potential GPUs; and detection of which specific dGPU or iGPU one might have, is not ideal; so all bases are covered.

You can likely remove the Nvidia drivers completely, but I’d suggest opening a new thread about that, and ask if there might be any complications arising from it.

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(left) SHIFT + Alt in my case.

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I’m wandering what will happen if I download and install “minimal” .
At this moment I’m downloading the “minimal KDE”

Elias

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I strongly recommend you only download the full ISO.

Without checking, one never knows which packages are omitted from the minimal ISO that you might actually need for something to work properly.

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You have to set it up in the keyboard settings.

For KDE:

System Settings → Keyboard → Keyboard → Advanced → Switching to another layout

That’s not a restart…you’re just killing/restarting the X server (only part of the system).

@BG405

Ω is the fourth level of Q, you have to configure Third Level Shift first.

System Settings → Keyboard → Keyboard → Advanced → Key to choose the third level

Third Level Shift + Shift + Q

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