System Update problem,often

Jakobz · 24 January 2024 13:32

this is the output after the command you said me:

sudo pacman-mirrors --fasttrack 5 && sudo pacman -Sy
::INFO Downloading mirrors from Manjaro
::INFO => Mirror pool: https://repo.manjaro.org/mirrors.json
::INFO => Mirror status: https://repo.manjaro.org/status.json
::INFO Using default mirror file
::INFO Querying mirrors - This may take some time
  2.247 China          : https://mirrors.tuna.tsinghua.edu.cn/manjaro/
  0.345 France         : https://manjaro.ynh.ovh/
  0.499 Belarus        : http://mirror.datacenter.by/pub/mirrors/manjaro/
  2.450 Bangladesh     : https://bd.mirror.vanehost.com/Manjaro/
  0.322 Switzerland    : https://mirror.init7.net/manjaro/
::INFO Writing mirror list
::Switzerland     : https://mirror.init7.net/manjaro/stable
::France          : https://manjaro.ynh.ovh/stable
::Belarus         : http://mirror.datacenter.by/pub/mirrors/manjaro/stable
::China           : https://mirrors.tuna.tsinghua.edu.cn/manjaro/stable
::Bangladesh      : https://bd.mirror.vanehost.com/Manjaro/stable
::INFO Mirror list generated and saved to: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
 multilib is up to date

Mirdarthos · 24 January 2024 13:42

We’ll handle orphans after the update.

This output looks like the package lists didn’t update after the mirrors, as it should have. So let’s try this::

sudo pacman -Syy

See if it’s successful, and then update:

sudo pacman -Syu

linux-aarhus · 24 January 2024 13:47

I have been around for a long time, and amongst other things I have learned, is to exercise due caution - when telling a fellow member to execute a specific task especially when the member appears to be uncomfortable and in doubt.

The safe way is to let the package manager tell you if it is safe to remove

sudo pacman -Rns libkipi

If it is safe it is done - if it is not you have to adjust the command for any new packages named in the output.

Using the remove orphan option to pamac remove is also pretty safe - but we cannot make the decision for you - at some point you will have to press the launch button - or your are getting nowhere.

Jakobz · 24 January 2024 13:59

here are the outputs,the first it seems worked:

sudo pacman -Syy
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core                                                                     145,4 KiB   268 KiB/s 00:01 [############################################################] 100%
 extra                                                                      8,6 MiB  8,49 MiB/s 00:01 [############################################################] 100%
 community                                                                 29,0   B  1450   B/s 00:00 [############################################################] 100%
 multilib                                                                 143,6 KiB  2,80 MiB/s 00:00 [############################################################] 100%

and the second: i omitted some packages intentionally cause it was too long to read

sudo pacman -Syu
:: Synchronizing package databases...
 core is up to date
 extra is up to date
 community is up to date
 multilib is up to date
:: Starting full system upgrade...
:: Replace attica with extra/attica5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace baloo with extra/baloo5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kactivities with extra/kactivities5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace karchive with extra/karchive5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kauth with extra/kauth5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kbookmarks with extra/kbookmarks5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kcmutils with extra/kcmutils5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kcodecs with extra/kcodecs5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kcompletion with extra/kcompletion5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kconfig with extra/kconfig5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kconfigwidgets with extra/kconfigwidgets5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kcoreaddons with extra/kcoreaddons5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kcrash with extra/kcrash5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kdbusaddons with extra/kdbusaddons5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kdeclarative with extra/kdeclarative5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kded with extra/kded5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kfilemetadata with extra/kfilemetadata5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kglobalaccel with extra/kglobalaccel5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kguiaddons with extra/kguiaddons5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace ki18n with extra/ki18n5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kiconthemes with extra/kiconthemes5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kidletime with extra/kidletime5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kimageformats with extra/kimageformats5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kio with extra/kio5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kitemmodels with extra/kitemmodels5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kitemviews with extra/kitemviews5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kjobwidgets with extra/kjobwidgets5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace knotifications with extra/knotifications5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kpackage with extra/kpackage5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kparts with extra/kparts5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kservice with extra/kservice5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace ktextwidgets with extra/ktextwidgets5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kwallet with extra/kwallet5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kwayland with extra/kwayland5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kwidgetsaddons with extra/kwidgetsaddons5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kwindowsystem with extra/kwindowsystem5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace kxmlgui with extra/kxmlgui5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace libkdcraw with extra/libkdcraw5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace onevpl with extra/libvpl? [Y/n] y
:: Replace plasma-framework with extra/plasma-framework5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace purpose with extra/purpose5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace solid with extra/solid5? [Y/n] y
:: Replace sonnet with extra/sonnet5? [Y/n] y
resolving dependencies...
:: There are 2 providers available for dbus-units:
:: Repository core
   1) dbus-broker-units  2) dbus-daemon-units

Enter a number (default=1): 
:: There are 128 providers available for tessdata:
:: Repository extra
   1) tesseract-data-afr  2) tesseract-data-amh  3) tesseract-data-ara  4) tesseract-data-asm  5) tesseract-data-aze  6) tesseract-data-aze_cyrl  7) tesseract-data-bel
   8) tesseract-data-ben  9) tesseract-data-bod  10) tesseract-data-bos  11) tesseract-data-bre  12) tesseract-data-bul  13) tesseract-data-cat  14) tesseract-data-ceb
   15) tesseract-data-ces  16) tesseract-data-chi_sim  17) tesseract-data-chi_sim_vert  18) tesseract-data-chi_tra  19) tesseract-data-chi_tra_vert
   20) tesseract-data-chr  21) tesseract-data-cos  22) tesseract-data-cym  23) tesseract-data-dan  24) tesseract-data-dan_frak  25) tesseract-data-deu
   26) tesseract-data-deu_frak  27) tesseract-data-div  28) tesseract-data-dzo  29) tesseract-data-ell  30) tesseract-data-eng  31) tesseract-data-enm
   32) tesseract-data-epo  33) tesseract-data-equ  34) tesseract-data-est  35) tesseract-data-eus  36) tesseract-data-fao  37) tesseract-data-fas
   38) tesseract-data-fil  39) tesseract-data-fin  40) tesseract-data-fra  41) tesseract-data-frk  42) tesseract-data-frm  43) tesseract-data-fry
   44) tesseract-data-gla  45) tesseract-data-gle  46) tesseract-data-glg  47) tesseract-data-grc  48) tesseract-data-guj  49) tesseract-data-hat
   50) tesseract-data-heb  51) tesseract-data-hin  52) tesseract-data-hrv  53) tesseract-data-hun  54) tesseract-data-hye  55) tesseract-data-iku
   56) tesseract-data-ind  57) tesseract-data-isl  58) tesseract-data-ita  59) tesseract-data-ita_old  60) tesseract-data-jav  61) tesseract-data-jpn
   62) tesseract-data-jpn_vert  63) tesseract-data-kan  64) tesseract-data-kat  65) tesseract-data-kat_old  66) tesseract-data-kaz  67) tesseract-data-khm
   68) tesseract-data-kir  69) tesseract-data-kmr  70) tesseract-data-kor  71) tesseract-data-kor_vert  72) tesseract-data-lao  73) tesseract-data-lat
   74) tesseract-data-lav  75) tesseract-data-lit  76) tesseract-data-ltz  77) tesseract-data-mal  78) tesseract-data-mar  79) tesseract-data-mkd
   80) tesseract-data-mlt  81) tesseract-data-mon  82) tesseract-data-mri  83) tesseract-data-msa  84) tesseract-data-mya  85) tesseract-data-nep
   86) tesseract-data-nld  87) tesseract-data-nor  88) tesseract-data-oci  89) tesseract-data-ori  90) tesseract-data-pan  91) tesseract-data-pol
   92) tesseract-data-por  93) tesseract-data-pus  94) tesseract-data-que  95) tesseract-data-ron  96) tesseract-data-rus  97) tesseract-data-san
   98) tesseract-data-sin  99) tesseract-data-slk  100) tesseract-data-slk_frak  101) tesseract-data-slv  102) tesseract-data-snd  103) tesseract-data-spa
   104) tesseract-data-spa_old  105) tesseract-data-sqi  106) tesseract-data-srp  107) tesseract-data-srp_latn  108) tesseract-data-sun  109) tesseract-data-swa
   110) tesseract-data-swe  111) tesseract-data-syr  112) tesseract-data-tam  113) tesseract-data-tat  114) tesseract-data-tel  115) tesseract-data-tgk
   116) tesseract-data-tgl  117) tesseract-data-tha  118) tesseract-data-tir  119) tesseract-data-ton  120) tesseract-data-tur  121) tesseract-data-uig
   122) tesseract-data-ukr  123) tesseract-data-urd  124) tesseract-data-uzb  125) tesseract-data-uzb_cyrl  126) tesseract-data-vie  127) tesseract-data-yid
   128) tesseract-data-yor

Enter a number (default=1): 58
looking for conflicting packages...
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: bashrc-manjaro will be installed before its bash dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: mesa will be installed before its libglvnd dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: lib32-libglvnd will be installed before its lib32-mesa dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: tesseract-data-ita will be installed before its tesseract dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: mhwd-nvidia will be installed before its mhwd dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: mhwd-nvidia-390xx will be installed before its mhwd dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: mhwd-nvidia-470xx will be installed before its mhwd dependency

Packages (642) adwaita-cursors-45.0-1  adwaita-icon-theme-45.0-1  alsa-card-profiles-1:1.0.0-2  aom-3.8.0-2  appstream-1.0.1-1  archlinux-appstream-data-20231203-1
               aria2-1.37.0-1  asciidoc-10.2.0-4  aspell-0.60.8.1-1  at-spi2-core-2.50.1-1  attica-5.110.0-1 [removal]  attica5-5.113.0-1  autoconf-2.72-1
               xz-5.4.5-1  zeitgeist-1.0.4-3  zenity-4.0.1-1  zeromq-4.3.5-2  zix-0.4.2-2  zlib-1:1.3-2  zxing-cpp-2.2.1-1

Total Download Size:   1901,62 MiB
Total Installed Size:  6854,62 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:       226,46 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
:: Retrieving packages...
 linux-firmware-20231211.f2e52a1c-1-any                                   175,1 MiB  10,0 MiB/s 00:17 [############################################################] 100%
 dbus-broker-units-35-2-x86_64                                              2,4 KiB  60,0 KiB/s 00:00 [############################################################] 100%
 Total (599/599)                                                         1901,6 MiB  5,80 MiB/s 05:28 [############################################################] 100%
error: failed retrieving file 'firefox-121.0.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.init7.net : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
error: failed retrieving file 'jre-openjdk-headless-21.u35-8-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.init7.net : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
error: failed retrieving file 'jre8-openjdk-headless-8.392.u08-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.init7.net : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
warning: too many errors from mirror.init7.net, skipping for the remainder of this transaction
(599/599) checking keys in keyring                                                                    [############################################################] 100%
(599/599) checking package integrity                                                                  [############################################################] 100%
(599/599) loading package files                                                                       [############################################################] 100%
(599/599) checking for file conflicts                                                                 [############################################################] 100%
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
dbus-broker-units: /usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service exists in filesystem (owned by dbus-x11)
dbus-broker-units: /usr/lib/systemd/user/dbus.service exists in filesystem (owned by dbus-x11)
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

linux-aarhus:

I have been around for a long time, and amongst other things I have learned, is to exercise due caution - when telling a fellow member to execute a specific task especially when the member appears to be uncomfortable and in doubt.

The safe way is to let the package manager tell you if it is safe to remove
sudo pacman -Rns libkipi
If it is safe it is done - if it is not you have to adjust the command for any new packages named in the output.

Using the remove orphan option to pamac remove is also pretty safe - but we cannot make the decision for you - at some point you will have to press the launch button - or your are getting nowhere.

thank you for the safe command. i’m in doubt cause i caused a crash once by removing some orphans by myself. so knowing there’s a safe way is better.
i will try the orphan command after the update…

Mirdarthos · 24 January 2024 14:08

Suggests that it wasn’t too slow, since that isn’t too bad a speed.

However, this:

Jakobz:

error: failed retrieving file 'firefox-121.0.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.init7.net : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
error: failed retrieving file 'jre-openjdk-headless-21.u35-8-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.init7.net : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds
error: failed retrieving file 'jre8-openjdk-headless-8.392.u08-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst' from mirror.init7.net : Operation too slow. Less than 1 bytes/sec transferred the last 10 seconds

says quite differently. So try different mirrors?

sudo pacman-mirrors --countroy=all

AFAIK that should, in theory at least, use the CDN. (I haven’t seen a n0o0tification that it doesn’t exist anymore…)

And then try the update again:

sudo pacman -Syu

Jakobz · 24 January 2024 14:19

i’ve done as you said. just correct the synthax error “country”

sudo pacman-mirrors --country=all
::INFO Downloading mirrors from Manjaro
::INFO => Mirror pool: https://repo.manjaro.org/mirrors.json
::INFO => Mirror status: https://repo.manjaro.org/status.json
::INFO Using default mirror file
::INFO Querying mirrors - This may take some time
  2.429 Australia      : https://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/manjaro/
  1.864 Australia      : https://gsl-syd.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/
  0.356 Austria        : https://mirror.easyname.at/manjaro/
  0.344 Austria        : https://mirror.alwyzon.net/manjaro/
  ..... Bangladesh     : http://mirror.xeonbd.com/manjaro/
  2.695 Bangladesh     : https://bd.mirror.vanehost.com/Manjaro/
  0.406 Belarus        : http://mirror.datacenter.by/pub/mirrors/manjaro/
[...]
  0.383 United_States  : https://ask4.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/
  1.163 Uzbekistan     : https://mirror.dc.uz/manjaro/
::INFO Writing mirror list
::Switzerland     : https://mirror.init7.net/manjaro/stable
::France          : http://ftp.free.org/mirrors/repo.manjaro.org/repos/stable
[...]
::China           : https://mirrors.sjtug.sjtu.edu.cn/manjaro/stable
::Bangladesh      : http://mirror.xeonbd.com/manjaro/stable
::INFO Mirror list generated and saved to: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

so i imagine this time worked better… will run -syu and update you

Jakobz · 24 January 2024 14:32

nope… same problem…

Total Download Size:      1,73 MiB
Total Installed Size:  6842,82 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:       214,65 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
:: Retrieving packages...
 tesseract-data-kmr-2:4.1.0-4-any                                        1769,7 KiB  1752 KiB/s 00:01 [############################################################] 100%
(599/599) checking keys in keyring                                                                    [############################################################] 100%
(599/599) checking package integrity                                                                  [############################################################] 100%
(599/599) loading package files                                                                       [############################################################] 100%
(599/599) checking for file conflicts                                                                 [############################################################] 100%
error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)
dbus-broker-units: /usr/lib/systemd/system/dbus.service exists in filesystem (owned by dbus-x11)
dbus-broker-units: /usr/lib/systemd/user/dbus.service exists in filesystem (owned by dbus-x11)
Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded.

i mean, not due to mirrors this time.

it can be an idea to clean the orphans first?

Mirdarthos · 24 January 2024 14:38

Luckily not.

In a previous update announcement, dbus was handled. And that is what seems to be causing this error.

So, remove the old dbus-daemon:

pamac remove dbus-daemon

Make sure you don’t restart, and do the update again:

sudo pacman -Syu

Followed by installing the new dbus-broker package:

pamac install dbus-broker

Let’s see if that helps…

Jakobz · 24 January 2024 14:43

something is wrong

pamac remove dbus-daemon
Error: target not found: dbus-daemon

zbe · 24 January 2024 14:48

Install dbus first and it will remove the other one. Then repeat update.

Mirdarthos · 24 January 2024 14:49

What he said

Jakobz · 24 January 2024 14:57

so i have to use:

pacman -S dbus

correct?

the output

sudo pacman -S  dbus       
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
:: dbus and dbus-x11 are in conflict (libdbus). Remove dbus-x11? [y/N]

Jakobz · 24 January 2024 16:06

it tooks a bit, but it seems to worked fine.
just few last question scrolling the log i saw few things, maybe you can help me understand them…

sudo pacman -S  dbus
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...
:: dbus and dbus-x11 are in conflict (libdbus). Remove dbus-x11? [y/N] y

Packages (2) dbus-x11-1.14.4-1 [removal]  dbus-1.14.10-2

Total Download Size:   0,30 MiB
Total Installed Size:  0,89 MiB
Net Upgrade Size:      0,03 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] y
:: Retrieving packages...
 dbus-1.14.10-2-x86_64                                                    304,9 KiB  1101 KiB/s 00:00 [############################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking keys in keyring                                                                        [############################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking package integrity                                                                      [############################################################] 100%
(1/1) loading package files                                                                           [############################################################] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                                                                     [############################################################] 100%
(2/2) checking available disk space                                                                   [############################################################] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) removing dbus-x11                                                                               [############################################################] 100%
(1/1) installing dbus                                                                                 [############################################################] 100%
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/4) Creating system user accounts...
(2/4) Reloading system manager configuration...
(3/4) Creating temporary files...
(4/4) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...

and after i run sudo pacman -Syu
here i read some stuff i will write you down:

looking for conflicting packages...
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: bashrc-manjaro will be installed before its bash dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: mesa will be installed before its libglvnd dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: lib32-libglvnd will be installed before its lib32-mesa dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: tesseract-data-ita will be installed before its tesseract dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: mhwd-nvidia will be installed before its mhwd dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: mhwd-nvidia-390xx will be installed before its mhwd dependency
warning: dependency cycle detected:
warning: mhwd-nvidia-470xx will be installed before its mhwd dependency

warning: /etc/systemd/homed.conf installed as /etc/systemd/homed.conf.pacnew
warning: /etc/systemd/pstore.conf installed as /etc/systemd/pstore.conf.pacnew

(176/598) upgrading bluez                                                                             [############################################################] 100%
warning: directory permissions differ on /etc/bluetooth/
filesystem: 755  package: 555

  -> Running build hook: [block]
==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'qed'
==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'bfa'
==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'qla2xxx'
==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'qla1280'
==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'xhci_pci'
  -> Running build hook: [keyboard]

::INFO Downloading mirrors from Manjaro
::INFO => Mirror pool: https://repo.manjaro.org/mirrors.json
::INFO => Mirror status: https://repo.manjaro.org/status.json
hint: use `pacman-mirrors` to generate and update your pacman mirrorlist.

should i worry about those warnings? and after i run last hint i only see some ok and some red lines,i need to do something?
it’s a good moment now to try to clean orphans?

system · 26 January 2024 04:06

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