System locking up after logging in

My whole DE was locking up seconds after logging in Gnome repeatedly, right after the update last night. (It was late over on this continent.)

I spent some trying to find out why today, and I was able to track it down to the pamac-updates@manjaro.org Gnome extension.

Now working fine with it disabled. (Otherwise I have no desktop environment).

Logs:

Nov 15 14:02:20 mbox gdm-password][2288]: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file
Nov 15 14:02:21 mbox systemd[2467]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-service.
Nov 15 14:02:27 mbox systemd[2467]: Failed to start IBus Daemon for GNOME.
Nov 15 14:04:59 mbox systemd-coredump[4683]: Process 2640 (gnome-shell) of user 1000 dumped core.

                                             Stack trace of thread 2640:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa57fd3a92 XGetWindowProperty (libX11.so.6 + 0x22a92)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa57fd44e9 XGetWMSizeHints (libX11.so.6 + 0x234e9)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa592b30ee n/a (libshell-17.so + 0x2b30ee)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58726314 n/a (libmutter-17.so.0 + 0x126314)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa5872b1c2 n/a (libmutter-17.so.0 + 0x12b1c2)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa58cd5f8d n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x5ef8d)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa58cd7657 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60657)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa58cd7a17 g_main_loop_run (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60a17)
                                             #8  0x00007ff9fdd5edf8 pamac_updates_checker_check_updates (libpamac.so + 0x8adf8)
                                             #9  0x00007ffa5795eac6 n/a (libffi.so.8 + 0x7ac6)
                                             #10 0x00007ffa5795b76b n/a (libffi.so.8 + 0x476b)
                                             #11 0x00007ffa5795e06e ffi_call (libffi.so.8 + 0x706e)
                                             #12 0x00007ffa58b3c87a n/a (libgjs.so.0 + 0xce87a)
                                             #13 0x00007ffa58b3d2cd n/a (libgjs.so.0 + 0xcf2cd)
                                             #14 0x00007ffa56a69505 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x1869505)
                                             #15 0x00007ffa56880ac1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x1680ac1)
                                             #16 0x00007ffa56ed1582 _Z20JS_CallFunctionValueP9JSContextN2JS6HandleIP8JSObjectEENS2_INS1_5ValueEEERKNS1_16HandleValueArrayENS1_13MutableHandleIS6_EE (libmozjs-140.so + 0x1cd1582)
                                             #17 0x00007ffa58b364b4 n/a (libgjs.so.0 + 0xc84b4)
                                             #18 0x00007ffa58b3ea4e n/a (libgjs.so.0 + 0xd0a4e)
                                             #19 0x00007ffa58b3ffb9 n/a (libgjs.so.0 + 0xd1fb9)
                                             #20 0x00007ffa5795e620 n/a (libffi.so.8 + 0x7620)
                                             #21 0x00007ffa5795ece8 n/a (libffi.so.8 + 0x7ce8)
                                             #22 0x00007ffa58cd7e91 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60e91)
                                             #23 0x00007ffa58cd5f8d n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x5ef8d)
                                             #24 0x00007ffa58cd7657 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60657)
                                             #25 0x00007ffa58cd7a17 g_main_loop_run (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60a17)
                                             #26 0x00007ffa586e808b meta_context_run_main_loop (libmutter-17.so.0 + 0xe808b)
                                             #27 0x00007ffa5795eac6 n/a (libffi.so.8 + 0x7ac6)
                                             #28 0x00007ffa5795b76b n/a (libffi.so.8 + 0x476b)
                                             #29 0x00007ffa5795e06e ffi_call (libffi.so.8 + 0x706e)
                                             #30 0x00007ffa58b3c87a n/a (libgjs.so.0 + 0xce87a)
                                             #31 0x00007ffa58b3d2cd n/a (libgjs.so.0 + 0xcf2cd)
                                             #32 0x00007ffa56a69505 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x1869505)
                                             #33 0x00007ffa56880ac1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x1680ac1)
                                             #34 0x00007ffa56d45983 _ZN2JS4CallEP9JSContextNS_6HandleINS_5ValueEEES4_RKNS_16HandleValueArrayENS_13MutableHandleIS3_EE (libmozjs-140.so + 0x1b45983)
                                             #35 0x00007ffa58ba05c4 n/a (libgjs.so.0 + 0x1325c4)
                                             #36 0x00007ffa58ba8e4f gjs_context_eval_module (libgjs.so.0 + 0x13ae4f)
                                             #37 0x00007ffa58ba8fb2 gjs_context_eval_module_file (libgjs.so.0 + 0x13afb2)
                                             #38 0x0000562b9b31d578 n/a (/usr/bin/gnome-shell + 0x2578)
                                             #39 0x00007ffa58227635 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x27635)
                                             #40 0x00007ffa582276e9 __libc_start_main (libc.so.6 + 0x276e9)
                                             #41 0x0000562b9b31d9e5 n/a (/usr/bin/gnome-shell + 0x29e5)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2642:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5831872d syscall (libc.so.6 + 0x11872d)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa58d0682e g_cond_wait (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x8f82e)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa58c9d1cd n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x261cd)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58d0f487 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x98487)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa58d0e8bc n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x978bc)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2645:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582931b4 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x931b4)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa5830d9f6 ppoll (libc.so.6 + 0x10d9f6)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa58cd7784 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60784)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa58cd7a17 g_main_loop_run (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60a17)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa58f48264 n/a (libgio-2.0.so.0 + 0x11a264)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa58d0e8bc n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x978bc)
                                             #8  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #9  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2643:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582931b4 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x931b4)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa5830d9f6 ppoll (libc.so.6 + 0x10d9f6)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa58cd7784 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60784)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa58cd7865 g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60865)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa58cd78b2 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x608b2)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa58d0e8bc n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x978bc)
                                             #8  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #9  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2653:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582931b4 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x931b4)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa5830d9f6 ppoll (libc.so.6 + 0x10d9f6)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa58cd7784 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60784)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa58cd7865 g_main_context_iteration (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60865)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa592e57be n/a (libdconfsettings.so + 0x77be)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa58d0e8bc n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x978bc)
                                             #8  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #9  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2654:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa569aeab1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17aeab1)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa569a74f9 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17a74f9)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2657:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa569aeab1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17aeab1)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa569a74f9 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17a74f9)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2655:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa569aeab1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17aeab1)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa569a74f9 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17a74f9)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2678:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa3176791e n/a (libgallium-25.2.7-arch1.1.so + 0x56791e)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa3172087d n/a (libgallium-25.2.7-arch1.1.so + 0x52087d)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa3176784d n/a (libgallium-25.2.7-arch1.1.so + 0x56784d)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #8  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2656:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa569aeab1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17aeab1)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa569a74f9 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17a74f9)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2676:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582931b4 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x931b4)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa5830d9f6 ppoll (libc.so.6 + 0x10d9f6)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa58cd7784 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60784)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa58cd7a17 g_main_loop_run (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60a17)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa58810f53 n/a (libmutter-17.so.0 + 0x210f53)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa58d0e8bc n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x978bc)
                                             #8  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #9  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 3204:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582931b4 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x931b4)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa5831acb5 epoll_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x11acb5)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa33ff6c2a n/a (libspa-support.so + 0x19c2a)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa33fe3c7f n/a (libspa-support.so + 0x6c7f)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa57d95014 n/a (libpipewire-0.3.so.0 + 0x83014)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #8  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 3216:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5831872d syscall (libc.so.6 + 0x11872d)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa58d0682e g_cond_wait (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x8f82e)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa58c9d1cd n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x261cd)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58c9d23d g_async_queue_pop (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x2623d)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa53c7351c n/a (libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 + 0xc51c)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa58d0e8bc n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x978bc)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2658:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa569aeab1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17aeab1)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa569a74f9 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17a74f9)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2660:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa569aeab1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17aeab1)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa569a74f9 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17a74f9)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2659:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa569aeab1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17aeab1)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa569a74f9 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17a74f9)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2661:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa569aeab1 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17aeab1)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa569a74f9 n/a (libmozjs-140.so + 0x17a74f9)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2680:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582931b4 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x931b4)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa5830d9f6 ppoll (libc.so.6 + 0x10d9f6)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa58cd7784 n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60784)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa58cd7a17 g_main_loop_run (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x60a17)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa58806135 n/a (libmutter-17.so.0 + 0x206135)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa58d0e8bc n/a (libglib-2.0.so.0 + 0x978bc)
                                             #8  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #9  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2788:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa54978bb3 n/a (libglycin-2.so.0 + 0x178bb3)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5496fb62 n/a (libglycin-2.so.0 + 0x16fb62)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa5496de89 n/a (libglycin-2.so.0 + 0x16de89)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa5496dd2f n/a (libglycin-2.so.0 + 0x16dd2f)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa54ac0161 n/a (libglycin-2.so.0 + 0x2c0161)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2679:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5829f002 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9f002)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa5829316c n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9316c)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa582937dc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x937dc)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa58295e9e pthread_cond_wait (libc.so.6 + 0x95e9e)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa3176791e n/a (libgallium-25.2.7-arch1.1.so + 0x56791e)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa3172087d n/a (libgallium-25.2.7-arch1.1.so + 0x52087d)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa3176784d n/a (libgallium-25.2.7-arch1.1.so + 0x56784d)
                                             #7  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #8  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)

                                             Stack trace of thread 2789:
                                             #0  0x00007ffa5831872d syscall (libc.so.6 + 0x11872d)
                                             #1  0x00007ffa54842756 n/a (libglycin-2.so.0 + 0x42756)
                                             #2  0x00007ffa54978441 n/a (libglycin-2.so.0 + 0x178441)
                                             #3  0x00007ffa54977e1c n/a (libglycin-2.so.0 + 0x177e1c)
                                             #4  0x00007ffa54ac0161 n/a (libglycin-2.so.0 + 0x2c0161)
                                             #5  0x00007ffa5829698b n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x9698b)
                                             #6  0x00007ffa5831a9cc n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x11a9cc)
                                             ELF object binary architecture: AMD x86-64
Nov 15 14:05:05 mbox gdm-password][5778]: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file
Nov 15 14:05:07 mbox systemd[2467]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-service.
Nov 15 14:05:07 mbox systemd[2467]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-service.
Nov 15 14:05:12 mbox systemd[2467]: Failed to start IBus Daemon for GNOME.
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Sorry, can’t reproduce. When was the last time you updated before last night?

I update daily.

I have had it disabled in the past, as I only use it for an update notifier, but I enabled it a few testing updates ago. So it was working for me, or at least not crashing gnome-shell, right before the last update.

What do you have installed?

pacman -Qs pamac
local/libpamac 11.7.3-7
    Library for Pamac package manager based on libalpm
local/libpamac-flatpak-plugin 11.7.3-7
    Flatpak plugin for Pamac
local/libpamac-snap-plugin 11.7.3-7
    Snap plugin for Pamac
local/pamac-cli 11.7.3-2
    A CLI Package Manager based on libalpm with AUR support
local/pamac-gnome-integration 11.7.3-6
    Pamac GNOME integration
local/pamac-gtk 11.7.3-6
    A Package Manager based on libalpm with AUR and Appstream support (GTK4)

This just occurred to me. Did you have flatpak support enabled? I have had issues with that part of pamac before, and I do have one (with dependencies a few) flatpaks installed.

Yes, I have Flatpak support enabled. However, I use topgrade and update Flatpaks that way normally.

I notice you have the Snap plugin installed which I never have even tested. I don’t know why either plugin would affect the update indicator, however you might try disabling Snap support or removing the plugin for troubleshooting purposes.

(I use zero snaps, and hope to keep it that way. I wish it were that way for flatpaks.)

I’m happy removing it, or the snap related packages. Otherwise, I do need a way to disable it via terminal to test that theory.