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Hello everyone. After the updates supplied on the 30th August my machine refused to boot, went straight to a black screen no mouse, no tty - nothing. So I went back in with Tmeshift and got back to a working system and decided to leave those updates for a few day while I perused the Forum for any news. On the news feed tonight I noticed that kernel 615 was now EOL (I was on 615) so I deleted that and loaded 616 rebooted - all good. Tried the updates again and back to the black screen. I have retrieved my system with Timeshift again but is there any clue as to what’s happening? I’m running the open source drivers for my (very old) Nvidia graphics card - is there anything else I should be doing here?

Many thanks for reading this.

Martin

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This might be related to items listed in Known Issues and Solutions, particularly, Grub gained security fixes. Updating it may be risky, or Grub - “Error: grub_is_using_legacy_shim_lock_protocol not found" may be worth looking at.

In the meantime, these might be of use;

When possible, please provide system information as described (below).

Regards.

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You can try to boot a fresh 25.0.8 install media to see if it works …

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Hello Everyone, sorry I forgot my manners - here’s my system info:

System:
  Kernel: 6.15.9-2-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 15.1.1
    clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.15-x86_64
    root=UUID=5fff2b66-5e42-4c55-b2c6-6340bde90d6d rw quiet splash apparmor=1
    security=apparmor resume=UUID=87b3ed59-364c-440e-af2e-845ab244931c
    udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.48 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0
    with: xfce4-panel tools: xfce4-screensaver vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0
    Distro: Manjaro base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: TUF GAMING B550-PLUS v: Rev X.0x
    serial: <superuser required> part-nu: SKU uuid: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2423 date: 08/10/2021
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
  System RAM: total: 32 GiB available: 31.24 GiB used: 2.44 GiB (7.8%)
  Message: For most reliable report, use superuser + dmidecode.
  Array-1: capacity: 128 GiB slots: 4 modules: 2 EC: None
    max-module-size: 32 GiB note: est.
  Device-1: DIMM_A1 type: no module installed
  Device-2: DIMM_A2 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 16 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s volts: note: check curr: 1 min: 1 max: 1
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Corsair
    part-no: CMK32GX4M2E3200C16 serial: N/A
  Device-3: DIMM_B1 type: no module installed
  Device-4: DIMM_B2 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 16 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s volts: note: check curr: 1 min: 1 max: 1
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Corsair
    part-no: CMK32GX4M2E3200C16 serial: N/A
PCI Slots:
  Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 2
    level: v3 note: check built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm)
    family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0 microcode: 0x8701034
  Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 1 cores: 12 threads: 24 tpc: 2
    smt: enabled cache: L1: 768 KiB desc: d-12x32 KiB; i-12x32 KiB L2: 6 MiB
    desc: 12x512 KiB L3: 64 MiB desc: 4x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1746 min/max: 563/4674 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: amd-pstate-epp governor: powersave cores: 1: 1746 2: 1746 3: 1746
    4: 1746 5: 1746 6: 1746 7: 1746 8: 1746 9: 1746 10: 1746 11: 1746 12: 1746
    13: 1746 14: 1746 15: 1746 16: 1746 17: 1746 18: 1746 19: 1746 20: 1746
    21: 1746 22: 1746 23: 1746 24: 1746 bogomips: 182057
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1
    bmi2 bpext cat_l3 cdp_l3 clflush clflushopt clwb clzero cmov cmp_legacy
    constant_tsc cpb cpuid cqm cqm_llc cqm_mbm_local cqm_mbm_total
    cqm_occup_llc cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists extapic extd_apicid
    f16c flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibpb ibs
    irperf lahf_lm lbrv lm mba mca mce misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor movbe
    msr mtrr mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw overflow_recov pae
    pat pausefilter pclmulqdq pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_llc perfctr_nb
    pfthreshold pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rapl rdpid rdpru rdrand rdseed rdt_a
    rdtscp rep_good sep sev sev_es sha_ni skinit smap smca smep ssbd sse sse2
    sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 stibp succor svm svm_lock syscall tce topoext
    tsc tsc_scale umip v_spec_ctrl v_vmsave_vmload vgif vmcb_clean vme
    vmmcall wbnoinvd wdt xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveerptr xsaveopt xtopology
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: ghostwrite status: Not affected
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP
    protection
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; STIBP:
    always-on; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsa status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected

Mod note:- Manners are one thing; easy readability is another. Please remember to enclose all code or command output as preformatted text. See How to Post Command Output as Preformatted Text :eyes: :wink:

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Hello again. I’m sorry I didn’t really understand the Preformatted Text instructions. :roll_eyes:

I’ve looked at the other solutions recommended and I don’t really see an option for me as I have nothing - literally just a black screen. So accessing anything of the system isn’t possible.

I have just downloaded the latest ISO - is my best bet to just re-install do you think? This is such a shame. In six years of using Manjaro this is the first failure I’ve had.

Regards,

Martin

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No, only to see if the new ISO would boot, including all updates.

Other options:

You can also try to downgrade to mesa 25.1.9 can use this repo on top of [extra] in /etc/pacman.conf:

[mesa-251]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Server = https://download.manjaro.org/pkgs/mesa

… using sudo pacman -Syuu

If that also don’t help, maybe it is the firmware ?!? Index of /packages/l/linux-firmware-amdgpu/

A newer set of firmwares can be found here:

[linux-firmware]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Server = https://download.manjaro.org/pkgs/linux-firmware
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Not quite. That is not the full output. Please try again. :wink:

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Hello Yochanan, what other info do you need?

Hello philm, I’ll be trying the mesa change later tonight when I get home. Will the firmware list automatically update itself?

Thanks to you both.

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You were given a link with the instructions needed. Rather than posting a rolling eyes emoji, you could actually read it instead, and you’ll know how to post code or command output properly as pre-formatted text, next time.

Your best bet might be to spend time in the forum and/or use the Manjaro Wiki to better understand how to handle unexpected issues as they arise.

The real shame is treating GNU/Linux as a Windows user might – reinstalling the OS rather than solving the issue. :facepalm:

Still, one thing reinstalling the OS has in it’s favour is that it can sometimes be faster than finding a solution. :slight_smile:

If you decide to take that route, please let us know so the topic can be closed accordingly.

Regards.

Still waiting for you to edit your previous post with the complete inxi output, as requested.

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Hello, if I could understand exactly what the issue was I’d be happy to research it! Hence my approach to the forum. Also for your information I’m not treating Linux as Windows user might, I’m a keen but (obviously) less experienced Linux user than yourselves asking for guidance in an inexplicable circumstance. Now we have the sniping out of the way: according to pamac my version of mesa installed is 1:25.1.7-1 so does the advice to downgrade to 25.1.9 still apply?

System:
  Kernel: 6.15.9-2-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 15.1.1
    clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.15-x86_64
    root=UUID=5fff2b66-5e42-4c55-b2c6-6340bde90d6d rw quiet splash apparmor=1
    security=apparmor resume=UUID=87b3ed59-364c-440e-af2e-845ab244931c
    udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.48 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0
    with: xfce4-panel tools: xfce4-screensaver vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0
    Distro: Manjaro base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: ASUS product: N/A v: N/A serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: TUF GAMING B550-PLUS v: Rev X.0x
    serial: <superuser required> part-nu: SKU uuid: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends v: 2423 date: 08/10/2021
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
  System RAM: total: 32 GiB available: 31.24 GiB used: 3.06 GiB (9.8%)
  Message: For most reliable report, use superuser + dmidecode.
  Array-1: capacity: 128 GiB slots: 4 modules: 2 EC: None
    max-module-size: 32 GiB note: est.
  Device-1: DIMM_A1 type: no module installed
  Device-2: DIMM_A2 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 16 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s volts: note: check curr: 1 min: 1 max: 1
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Corsair
    part-no: CMK32GX4M2E3200C16 serial: N/A
  Device-3: DIMM_B1 type: no module installed
  Device-4: DIMM_B2 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous unbuffered (unregistered)
    size: 16 GiB speed: 2133 MT/s volts: note: check curr: 1 min: 1 max: 1
    width (bits): data: 64 total: 64 manufacturer: Corsair
    part-no: CMK32GX4M2E3200C16 serial: N/A
PCI Slots:
  Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 gen: 2
    level: v3 note: check built: 2020-22 process: TSMC n7 (7nm)
    family: 0x17 (23) model-id: 0x71 (113) stepping: 0 microcode: 0x8701034
  Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 1 cores: 12 threads: 24 tpc: 2
    smt: enabled cache: L1: 768 KiB desc: d-12x32 KiB; i-12x32 KiB L2: 6 MiB
    desc: 12x512 KiB L3: 64 MiB desc: 4x16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1746 min/max: 563/4674 boost: enabled scaling:
    driver: amd-pstate-epp governor: powersave cores: 1: 1746 2: 1746 3: 1746
    4: 1746 5: 1746 6: 1746 7: 1746 8: 1746 9: 1746 10: 1746 11: 1746 12: 1746
    13: 1746 14: 1746 15: 1746 16: 1746 17: 1746 18: 1746 19: 1746 20: 1746
    21: 1746 22: 1746 23: 1746 24: 1746 bogomips: 182054
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm adx aes aperfmperf apic arat avic avx avx2 bmi1
    bmi2 bpext cat_l3 cdp_l3 clflush clflushopt clwb clzero cmov cmp_legacy
    constant_tsc cpb cpuid cqm cqm_llc cqm_mbm_local cqm_mbm_total
    cqm_occup_llc cr8_legacy cx16 cx8 de decodeassists extapic extd_apicid
    f16c flushbyasid fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr fxsr_opt ht hw_pstate ibpb ibs
    irperf lahf_lm lbrv lm mba mca mce misalignsse mmx mmxext monitor movbe
    msr mtrr mwaitx nonstop_tsc nopl npt nrip_save nx osvw overflow_recov pae
    pat pausefilter pclmulqdq pdpe1gb perfctr_core perfctr_llc perfctr_nb
    pfthreshold pge pni popcnt pse pse36 rapl rdpid rdpru rdrand rdseed rdt_a
    rdtscp rep_good sep sev sev_es sha_ni skinit smap smca smep ssbd sse sse2
    sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 stibp succor svm svm_lock syscall tce topoext
    tsc tsc_scale umip v_spec_ctrl v_vmsave_vmload vgif vmcb_clean vme
    vmmcall wbnoinvd wdt xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveerptr xsaveopt xtopology
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: ghostwrite status: Not affected
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: Not affected
  Type: l1tf status: Not affected
  Type: mds status: Not affected
  Type: meltdown status: Not affected
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Not affected
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: untrained return thunk; SMT enabled with STIBP
    protection
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow mitigation: Safe RET
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; STIBP:
    always-on; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsa status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050 Ti] driver: nouveau v: kernel
    alternate: nova_core non-free: 550-570.xx+ status: current (as of 2025-04;
    EOL~2026-12-xx) arch: Pascal code: GP10x process: TSMC 16nm
    built: 2016-2021 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3
    speed: 8 GT/s ports: active: DP-1 empty: DVI-D-1,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 0b:00.0
    chip-ID: 10de:1c82 class-ID: 0300 temp: 34.0 C
  Display: x11 server: X.org v: 1.21.1.18 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0
    driver: X: loaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa dri: nouveau
    gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0.0 note: <missing: xdpyinfo/xrandr>
  Monitor-1: DP-1 model: ASUS PA279CV serial: <filter> built: 2024
    res: 3840x2160 dpi: 163 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red: x: 0.655 y: 0.333 green:
    x: 0.286 y: 0.635 blue: x: 0.149 y: 0.059 white: x: 0.314 y: 0.329
    size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23") diag: 685mm (27") ratio: 16:9
    modes: 3840x2160, 1920x2160, 2560x1440, 1920x1080, 1680x1050, 1280x1024,
    1440x900, 1280x960, 1280x720, 1440x576, 1024x768, 1440x480, 800x600,
    720x576, 720x480, 640x480
  EDID-Warnings: 1: parse_edid: unhandled CEA mode 96 2: parse_edid:
    unhandled CEA mode 97
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia nouveau platforms: device: 0 drv: nouveau
    device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: nouveau surfaceless: drv: nouveau x11:
    drv: nouveau inactive: wayland
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 4.3 vendor: mesa v: 25.1.7-arch1.1 glx-v: 1.4
    direct-render: yes renderer: NV137 device-ID: 10de:1c82 memory: 3.87 GiB
    unified: no
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo de: xfce4-display-settings x11: xprop
Audio:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GP107GL High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel alternate: nova_core pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16
    link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s bus-ID: 0b:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fb9
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Starship/Matisse HD Audio
    vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 4 speed: 16 GT/s
    lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0d:00.4 chip-ID: 1022:1487 class-ID: 0403
  Device-3: Creative USB Sound Blaster HD
    driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid type: USB rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 bus-ID: 5-2:2 chip-ID: 041e:30d7 class-ID: 0300
    serial: <filter>
  API: ALSA v: k6.15.9-2-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off tools: N/A
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.4.7 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
    status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
    tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel
    pcie: gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: f000 bus-ID: 0a:00.0
    chip-ID: 10ec:8125 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp10s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  Info: services: httpd, NetworkManager, systemd-timesyncd
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Message: No bluetooth data found.
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 7.06 TiB used: 2.46 TiB (34.8%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:2 vendor: Samsung
    model: MZVPW256HEGL-000L7 size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter>
    fw-rev: 7L6QCXZ7 temp: 32.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/nvme1n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Seagate model: FireCuda 520 SSD
    ZP1000GM30002 size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B
    speed: 63.2 Gb/s lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: STNSC014
    temp: 38.9 C scheme: GPT
  ID-3: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST6000DM003-2CY186
    size: 5.46 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: HDD rpm: 5425 serial: <filter> fw-rev: 0001 scheme: GPT
  ID-4: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD5000AAKS-00V1A0 size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s tech: N/A serial: <filter> fw-rev: 1D05
    scheme: MBR
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: ATAPI model: iHAS324 F rev: CL8M
    dev-links: cdrom
  Features: speed: 48 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes
    rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r state: running
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 48.83 GiB size: 47.76 GiB (97.81%) used: 34.59 GiB (72.4%)
    fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3 maj-min: 259:5 label: N/A
    uuid: 5fff2b66-5e42-4c55-b2c6-6340bde90d6d
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 320 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:3 label: N/A
    uuid: B517-A33C
  ID-3: /home raw-size: 931.51 GiB size: 915.82 GiB (98.32%)
    used: 489.68 GiB (53.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme1n1p4 maj-min: 259:1
    label: N/A uuid: 776583a5-6267-4392-be50-7a28533e179d
  ID-4: /home/<filter>/Shares/Music raw-size: N/A size: 3.58 TiB
    used: 1.64 TiB (45.9%) fs: cifs dev: /dev/Music
  ID-5: /home/<filter>/Shares/NetBackUp/ImageStore raw-size: N/A
    size: 1.79 TiB used: 389.85 GiB (21.3%) fs: cifs dev: /dev/ImageStore
  ID-6: /home/<filter>/Shares/NetBackUp/SystemBak raw-size: N/A
    size: 1.79 TiB used: 389.85 GiB (21.3%) fs: cifs dev: /dev/SystemBak
  ID-7: /media/Crypt raw-size: 465.76 GiB size: 457.38 GiB (98.20%)
    used: 113.96 GiB (24.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 label: Crypt
    uuid: 3c0e08cd-6241-4c09-a846-adc6770141a9
  ID-8: /media/ImageStore raw-size: 1.46 TiB size: 1.43 TiB (98.36%)
    used: 256.74 GiB (17.5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2
    label: ImageStore uuid: 0d589821-beba-49d3-ae8a-8c197f33b32c
  ID-9: /media/MusicStore raw-size: 4 TiB size: 3.97 TiB (99.19%)
    used: 1.58 TiB (39.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
    label: MusicStore uuid: 02a9aeb8-7948-4e75-83fe-6778a2298fe6
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: yes
    compressor: zstd max-pool: 20%
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 4 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2 maj-min: 259:4 label: N/A
    uuid: 87b3ed59-364c-440e-af2e-845ab244931c
Unmounted:
  Message: No unmounted partitions found.
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 10 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-2:2 info: CHERRY MX-Board 3.0 G80-3850 type: keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 1.5 Mb/s (183 KiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 046a:0076 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 1-6:3 info: ASUSTek AURA LED Controller type: HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 16mA chip-ID: 0b05:1939 class-ID: 0300
    serial: <filter>
  Hub-2: 1-7:4 info: Genesys Logic Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 05e3:0610 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-7.2:6 info: Alcor Micro Flash Card Reader/Writer
    type: mass storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 250mA
    chip-ID: 058f:6362 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Device-2: 1-10:5 info: Logitech Mouse type: mouse
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 1.5 Mb/s (183 KiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 046d:c077 class-ID: 0301
  Hub-3: 2-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-4: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 3-1:2 info: VIA Labs Hub ports: 4 rev: 2.1
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 2109:3431 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-6: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 5-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 5-2:2 info: Creative USB Sound Blaster HD type: audio,HID
    driver: hid-generic,snd-usb-audio,usbhid interfaces: 6 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 041e:30d7 class-ID: 0300 serial: <filter>
  Hub-8: 6-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 4 rev: 3.1
    speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-9: 7-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-10: 7-2:2 info: Hitachi ports: 4 rev: 2.1 speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 045b:0209 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-11: 8-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-12: 8-2:2 info: Hitachi ports: 4 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s)
    lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 045b:0210 class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 46.1 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 34.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 1318 pm: pacman pkgs: 1312 libs: 364 tools: pamac,yay pm: flatpak
    pkgs: 6
  Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
    1: https://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/repo.manjaro.org/repos/stable/$repo/$arch
    2: https://mirror.vinehost.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    3: https://ask4.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
Processes:
  CPU top: 5 of 499
  1: cpu: 5.8% command: firefox pid: 1994 mem: 496.2 MiB (1.5%)
  2: cpu: 3.8% command: firefox pid: 2203 mem: 337.8 MiB (1.0%)
  3: cpu: 3.5% command: xfce4-terminal pid: 2738 mem: 51.5 MiB (0.1%)
  4: cpu: 2.5% command: pamac-manager pid: 2630 mem: 981.2 MiB (3.0%)
  5: cpu: 2.1% command: firefox pid: 2109 mem: 511.6 MiB (1.5%)
  Memory top: 5 of 499
  1: mem: 981.2 MiB (3.0%) command: pamac-manager pid: 2630 cpu: 2.5%
  2: mem: 511.6 MiB (1.5%) command: firefox pid: 2109 cpu: 2.1%
  3: mem: 496.2 MiB (1.5%) command: firefox pid: 1994 cpu: 5.8%
  4: mem: 337.8 MiB (1.0%) command: firefox pid: 2203 cpu: 3.8%
  5: mem: 209.9 MiB (0.6%) command: mariadbd pid: 1366 cpu: 0.0%
Info:
  Processes: 499 Power: uptime: 12m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep
    avail: s2idle wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot,
    suspend, test_resume image: 12.47 GiB Init: systemd v: 257
    default: graphical tool: systemctl
  Compilers: gcc: 15.1.1 Shell: Bash v: 5.3.3 running-in: xfce4-terminal
    inxi: 3.3.38
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I had the same issue at the last big update 20.7.25

This weekend I did the latest updated and was stuck after the Bootloader screen again.
I could fix it by using the live-usb and chroot in to it:

grub-update 
grub-update() {
    # sudo grub-install --recheck && sudo update-grub
    sudo grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=manjaro --recheck --verbose
    sudo mkinitcpio -P
    sudo update-grub && sudo tree /boot/efi
}

And this time I did make a screenshot of the error output:
https://paste.c-net.org/EarthlyDearborn

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I think somehow the mesa update to 25.2.x series nuked some older Nvidia cards out of orbit. Please downgrade to latest 25.1.x series.

You can try to use the 25.1.x series of Mesa via this repo. Simply place it on top of [extra] in your /etc/pacman.conf file and use sudo pacman -Syuu to downgrade.

[mesa-251]
SigLevel = PackageRequired
Server = https://download.manjaro.org/pkgs/mesa

If you have not access to a graphical session, you can go to the bootloader by pressing ESC key and select the bootloader entry. Press CTRL+E for edit and search for the words quiet and splash. Delete those and add 3 to the line. Then execute CTRL+x to start your session. You will land in a text console TTY. Login with your user.

Edit the /etc/pacman.conf with nano: sudo nano /etc/pacman.conf. Perform the downgrade and reboot.

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Hello philm, well I’ve used your mesa suggestion in pacman.conf and added the firmware lines as well. I’ve also edit the GRUB lines as you indicated - I updated the system with today’s latest update and nothing much has changed. The only thing is I now get a flash of my desktop every minute or so but still no usable system.

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Two things to be aware of…

  1. When replying to another member’s post, use the “Reply” button directly under the post you are responding to as this will ensure the intended person is notified.

  2. Please use an @ character when mentioning another member. Doing so generates a small modal list to select from, which not only prevents spelling mistakes, but also notifies the member that they were mentioned.
    Without the @ there’s (optimistically) a 50/50 chance that the member will know you tried to attract their attention.

My lighthearted comment was directed more as a reflection of the typical Windows userbase, rather than being personal.

As an inexperienced user, you might like to take advantage of the forum’s search functionality. The following link is a simple Search Query using boot black screen as keywords;

You might find something in the meantime that’s useful.

Regards.

Thanks for updating your inxi output, though I see nothing obvious that might be contributing.

However, I noticed:

Note that kernel 6.15 reached EOL two weeks ago, which means updates for this kernel are no longer available from the official Manjaro repositories.

It is strongly recommended that you switch to a supported kernel – perhaps kernel 6.12 (LTS) or kernel 6.16 – at your earliest convenience.

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sorry for out-of-topic query, any chance of getting to know whether this was built with -D legacy-x11=dri2 option

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Build flags as the following:

    -D android-libbacktrace=disabled
    -D b_ndebug=true
    -D gallium-drivers=r300,r600,radeonsi,nouveau,virgl,svga,llvmpipe,softpipe,iris,crocus,i915,zink,d3d12
    -D gallium-extra-hud=true
    -D gallium-rusticl=true
    -D gallium-xa=disabled
    -D gles1=disabled
    -D html-docs=enabled
    -D legacy-x11=dri2
    -D libunwind=disabled
    -D microsoft-clc=disabled
    -D valgrind=enabled
    -D video-codecs=all
    -D vulkan-drivers=amd,gfxstream,intel,intel_hasvk,nouveau,swrast,virtio,microsoft-experimental
    -D vulkan-layers=device-select,intel-nullhw,overlay,screenshot,vram-report-limit
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Did you try the proprietary Nvidia drivers yet? Maybe they are better on you hardware than the Nouveau drivers … You can try to use nvidia-driver-assistant to find the proper driver.

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philm, I have great news! We are fixed :grinning:

There were some problems but I got there. Installed the prop drivers, rebooted and somehow lightdm failed to start. Went into a tty reinstalled lightdm and also changed to a LTS kenel and bingo! We are all good!

I would like to thank you for your helpfulness and patience. If there was ever an instance of learning from experience - this was it!

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Sounds good.

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