We just worked out a workaround for this… after making a copy of the session file.
Take a fresh snapshot, then downgrade dolphin.
pamac install downgrade
downgrade dolphin
➤ dolphin -v
dolphin 25.08.3
Load the session, then save it as a bookmark folder.
pamac install dolphin
Restore Dolphin, load the folder.4 posts were merged into an existing topic: Updated driver broke my Docker container
I had the same problem with lightdm after trying to downgrade to 570xx through mhwd. Couldnt even go back to 580xx. After trial and error finally was able to solve it by removing the mhwd version and installing it again but with pacman command: sudo pacman -S linux66-nvidia-570xx
I would tend to say, that the major problem with this update is / was the Nvidia driver in almost all of its latest versions. I had other issues already within the testing branch, because the latest 580 release still has issues with missing WQHD resolutions on Pascal cards.
So far I did not encounter any issues on my AMD only system, but found a lot of complains from people with Nvidia cards - also on plain Arch or CachyOS - while searching for a solution to my above mentioned problem. 
6 posts were split to a new topic: Garbage in, garbage out
3 posts were split to a new topic: Updated driver broke my Docker container
4 posts were split to a new topic: Huge update - 1897 packages - how come?
Thank you. After I repaired my system, a have managed to downgrade the driver.
As i understood, in my case the issue occured because
sudo mhwd -i pci video-nvidia-570xx
installs something called “linux612-nvidia-570xx-open”. And after reboot the system cant find some nvidia modules.
sudo pacman -S linux66-nvidia-570xx removes linux612-nvidia-570xx-open and installs correct linux66-nvidia-570xx
P.S. I don`t know is it a bug or a proper mhwd behavior.
I am no expert on mhwd - we will have to ask the architect @philm
4 hours and pages of gcc sounds like rebuilding aur packages. This isn’t part of the official update process.
Now I’ve tried to find a solution for a week with now luck.
On start up, between Boot splash screen and Splash screen (or login screen) I get a second grub screen for a second, but it’s just an image I can’t do anything there.
If I actively choose an entry in the (original) Grub Menu it does not show up.
If I change to default Grub background this is what I see on the second screen so it’s not a static image picked up somewhere.
I also see a Grub screen for a second if login out, if I logged out go to tty and clear cache and log back in and again log out it is gone, but on reboot it is back again, so something must happen during startup.
If I have Grub hidden I don’t see it.
I Timeshifted back to pre 2025-12-08 upgrade and all is good but after a new upgrade it is back.
More of an annoyance than a mayor problem but I can’t pinpoint the problem, Grub or Plasma.
I just installed both this and the 2025-12-08 update on two computers, following the guidance. On an nvidia laptop (where I usually expect issues) it went smoothly, but on my mini-PC I had the Error: symbol 'grub_memcpy' not found problem despite having run both install-grub and update-grub. I was able to fix it without needing to chroot from a live USB by following these steps:
sudo cp /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/core.efi /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI, creating the latter directory)On subsequent reboots, the PC came back up normally.
The output of install-grub indicated the problem, but I didn’t heed this in time:
Warning: GRUB bootloader at '/boot/efi/EFI/Manjaro' was updated.
Your booted entry 'UEFI OS' is not the same as 'Manjaro'.
This may be a rescue ISO, but if not check your EFI boot priority.
On the nvidia laptop, I just had to set the default session back to X11 in the SDDM settings.
Probably neither of them, but plymouth instead.
Yes, could be but it doesn’t help me with the problem, or maybe if I don’t use splash in Grub. I want to remember I tried that to and did not see the second screen/image.
That second image is an echo of the grub menu, which still resides in your graphics memory when plymouth starts.
That make perfect sense, also explain I have had problem finding a source of it being picked from memory.
Thank you, I am just happy having an explanation.
Kernel 6.18 gives no sound on my Lenovo Legion 5 15ARH7H (Realtek ALC3287 / ALC257), 6.17 and 6.12 are fine [hint: workaround]. Restarting pipewire[-pulse] and wireplumber takes a long time and according to KDE volume control only changes connection to the sound server lost according to no audio devices detected, wpctl status is also stuck. Unfortunately neither dmesg nor journalctl say anything useful. Possibly missing firmware or something.
EDIT: Seems like generic 6.18 issue, the reports are mostly on Arch (derivatives), but 6.18 basically has audio regression in general, unrelated to codec.
After a few days since installing this update with the Nvidia 580xx proprietary driver, I notice that I have the panel, title bar, and sometimes whole windows flickering. And game performance inconsistent.
I tried downgrading to 575xx and then 570xx, and my three installed kernels (6.18, 6.17, and 6.12) would boot to a black screen with a white blinking cursor in the top left corner. I even tried
I even tried the trick listed in the notes for this update of uninstalling linux-nvidia-meta and linux-meta before removing the 580xx driver and then again installing 575xx and 570xx with the same results. Had to restore a time shift snapshot to get back to something working.
I don’t know what is different about my system that this is a problem, and would very much like to downgrade to a reliably working Nvidia graphics driver version.
Can you help?
inxi -zv8
System:
Kernel: 6.12.62-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 15.2.1
clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12-x86_64
root=UUID=7361f228-1102-406f-93c9-8c30f3d4372e rw quiet splash apparmor=1
security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
Desktop: Xfce v: 4.20.1 tk: Gtk v: 3.24.51 wm: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0
with: xfce4-panel tools: light-locker vt: 7 dm: LightDM v: 1.32.0
Distro: Manjaro base: Arch Linux
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Z170-A v: Rev 1.xx
serial: <superuser required> part-nu: SKU uuid: <superuser required>
Firmware: UEFI-[Legacy] vendor: American Megatrends v: 3802
date: 03/15/2018
Battery:
Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
System RAM: total: 16 GiB available: 15.56 GiB used: 2.18 GiB (14.0%)
Message: For most reliable report, use superuser + dmidecode.
Array-1: capacity: 64 GiB slots: 4 modules: 2 EC: None
max-module-size: 16 GiB note: est.
Device-1: ChannelA-DIMM1 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous size: 8 GiB
speed: 2667 MT/s volts: curr: 1 width (bits): data: 64 total: 64
manufacturer: Kingston part-no: KHX2666C15D4/8G serial: <filter>
Device-2: ChannelA-DIMM2 type: no module installed
Device-3: ChannelB-DIMM1 type: DDR4 detail: synchronous size: 8 GiB
speed: 2667 MT/s volts: curr: 1 width (bits): data: 64 total: 64
manufacturer: Kingston part-no: KHX2666C15D4/8G serial: <filter>
Device-4: ChannelB-DIMM2 type: no module installed
PCI Slots:
Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
Info: model: Intel Core i7-6700K bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake-S
gen: core 6 level: v3 note: check built: 2015 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
model-id: 0x5E (94) stepping: 3 microcode: 0xF0
Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 4 cores: 4 threads: 8 tpc: 2
smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 800 min/max: 800/4200 scaling: driver: intel_pstate
governor: powersave cores: 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800 5: 800 6: 800 7: 800
8: 800 bogomips: 64026
Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat
arch_capabilities arch_perfmon art avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush
clflushopt cmov constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64
dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fma fpu
fsgsbase fxsr ht hwp hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_notify ibpb ibrs ida
intel_pt invpcid lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe mpx msr
mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge
pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti pts rdrand rdseed rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep
smap smep ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2
tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic
xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr
Vulnerabilities:
Type: gather_data_sampling status: Vulnerable: No microcode
Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages
Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT
vulnerable
Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
prctl
Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: conditional;
RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
Type: tsa status: Not affected
Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: TSX disabled
Type: vmscape mitigation: IBPB before exit to userspace
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nvidia
v: 580.119.02 alternate: nouveau,nvidia_drm non-free: 550-580.xx+
status: current (as of 2025-11; EOL~2026-12-xx) arch: Maxwell code: GMxxx
process: TSMC 28nm built: 2014-2019 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16
link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s ports: active: none off: DVI-I-1
empty: DP-1,DVI-D-1,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:13c2
class-ID: 0300
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.21 compositor: xfwm4 v: 4.20.0 driver:
X: loaded: nvidia unloaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,nouveau,nv,vesa
gpu: nvidia,nvidia-nvswitch display-ID: :0.0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 678x382mm (26.69x15.04")
s-diag: 778mm (30.64")
Monitor-1: DVI-I-1 note: disabled model: Asus PB278 serial: <filter>
built: 2015 res: mode: 2560x1440 hz: 60 scale: 100% (1) dpi: 109 gamma: 1.2
chroma: red: x: 0.667 y: 0.329 green: x: 0.310 y: 0.631 blue: x: 0.149
y: 0.039 white: x: 0.314 y: 0.329 size: 597x336mm (23.5x13.23")
diag: 685mm (27") ratio: 16:9 modes: 2560x1440, 1920x1080, 1680x1050,
1280x1024, 1440x900, 1280x960, 1280x800, 1152x864, 1280x720, 1024x768,
800x600, 640x480
API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: nvidia platforms: device: 0 drv: nvidia device: 2
drv: swrast gbm: drv: nvidia surfaceless: drv: nvidia x11: drv: nvidia
inactive: wayland,device-1
API: OpenGL v: 4.6.0 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: nvidia mesa v: 580.119.02
glx-v: 1.4 direct-render: yes renderer: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970/PCIe/SSE2
memory: 3.91 GiB
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.328 layers: 4 device: 0 type: discrete-gpu
name: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 driver: nvidia v: 580.119.02
device-ID: 10de:13c2 surfaces: N/A
Info: Tools: api: eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo de: xfce4-display-settings
gpu: nvidia-settings,nvidia-smi x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 100 Series/C230 Series Family HD Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel alternate: snd_soc_avs bus-ID: 00:1f.3
chip-ID: 8086:a170 class-ID: 0403
Device-2: NVIDIA GM204 High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0fbb class-ID: 0403
API: ALSA v: k6.12.62-1-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off tools: N/A
Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.4.9 status: off tools: pw-cli
Server-3: PulseAudio v: 17.0-93-gbe2efb status: active
with: pulseaudio-alsa type: plugin tools: pacat,pactl,pavucontrol
Network:
Device-1: Intel Ethernet I219-V vendor: ASUSTeK driver: e1000e v: kernel
port: N/A bus-ID: 00:1f.6 chip-ID: 8086:15b8 class-ID: 0200
IF: enp0s31f6 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
IP v4: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: global broadcast: <filter>
Info: services: NetworkManager,systemd-timesyncd
WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
Message: No bluetooth data found.
Logical:
Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 3.64 TiB used: 1.02 TiB (27.9%)
SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 maj-min: 259:0 vendor: Sabrent model: Rocket Q
size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 31.6 Gb/s
lanes: 4 tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: RKT30Q.1 temp: 26.9 C
scheme: MBR
ID-2: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Seagate model: ST2000DM001-1ER164
size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
tech: HDD rpm: 7200 serial: <filter> fw-rev: CC25 scheme: MBR
Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: HL-DT-ST model: DVDRAM GH24NSC0 rev: LK00
dev-links: cdrom
Features: speed: 12 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes
rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running
Partition:
ID-1: / raw-size: 1.82 TiB size: 1.79 TiB (98.37%) used: 1.02 TiB (56.8%)
fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1 maj-min: 259:1 label: N/A
uuid: 7361f228-1102-406f-93c9-8c30f3d4372e
Swap:
Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 16 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
file: /swapfile
Unmounted:
ID-1: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 size: 1.82 TiB fs: ntfs label: MM-storage
uuid: 7DC123C74498A0AD
USB:
Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 16 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
class-ID: 0900
Device-1: 1-9:2 info: HP HyperX Alloy Core RGB type: keyboard,HID
driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 500mA chip-ID: 03f0:0391 class-ID: 0300
Device-2: 1-10:3 info: ASUSTek ROG GLADIUS III type: HID,mouse
driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s)
lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 100mA chip-ID: 0b05:197b class-ID: 0300
Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 10 rev: 3.0
speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
class-ID: 0900
Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 2 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
class-ID: 0900
Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.1
speed: 10 Gb/s (1.16 GiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-2x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 21.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nvidia temp: 48 C
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A gpu: nvidia fan: 0%
Repos:
Packages: pm: pacman pkgs: 1475 libs: 504 tools: pamac pm: flatpak pkgs: 0
Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
1: https://mirror.math.princeton.edu/pub/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
2: https://nocix.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
3: https://ohioix.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
4: https://volico.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
5: https://irltoolkit.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
6: https://ziply.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
7: https://codingflyboy.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
8: https://mirrors.ocf.berkeley.edu/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
Processes:
CPU top: 5 of 277
1: cpu: 30.8% command: firefox pid: 3301 mem: 504.1 MiB (3.1%)
2: cpu: 15.0% command: firefox pid: 3763 mem: 385.3 MiB (2.4%)
3: cpu: 12.4% command: keepassxc pid: 4247 mem: 129.4 MiB (0.8%)
4: cpu: 10.5% command: thunderbird pid: 3005 mem: 539.8 MiB (3.3%)
5: cpu: 7.8% command: Xorg pid: 1089 mem: 101.2 MiB (0.6%)
Memory top: 5 of 277
1: mem: 539.8 MiB (3.3%) command: thunderbird pid: 3005 cpu: 10.5%
2: mem: 504.1 MiB (3.1%) command: firefox pid: 3301 cpu: 30.8%
3: mem: 385.3 MiB (2.4%) command: firefox pid: 3763 cpu: 15.0%
4: mem: 189.0 MiB (1.1%) command: firefox pid: 3694 cpu: 2.1%
5: mem: 129.4 MiB (0.8%) command: keepassxc pid: 4247 cpu: 12.4%
Info:
Processes: 277 Power: uptime: 1m states: freeze,mem,disk suspend: deep
avail: s2idle wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown, reboot,
suspend, test_resume image: 6.13 GiB services: upowerd,xfce4-power-manager
Init: systemd v: 258 default: graphical tool: systemctl
Compilers: clang: 21.1.6 gcc: 15.2.1 Shell: Bash v: 5.3.8
running-in: xfce4-terminal inxi: 3.3.40
```
you can use xfce wayland
sudo pacman -S labwc wlroots0.19then deconnect , choose wayland and log in
this is for wait real fix in series 580 drivers
Thinkpad T60, Intel T5500, Intel i915, BIOS MBR
KDE Plasma, Kernel 6.12 LTS
Update went without errors, after installing x11 package and following the “install-grub” instructions. BTW the package “install-grub” had to be installed manually.
SDDM works, autologin sucessful with Wayland KDE.
Freezing after about 1min if you start Firefox / Youtube.
Resetting to KDE Plasma X11 in SDDM and the system is working like a charm!
KSystemLog reports Kernel Errors with Thinkpad Touchpad, and kwin x11
20/12/2025 12:29 kwin_x11 XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 18411, resource id: 62915166, major code: 129 (SHAPE), minor code: 6 (Input)
20/12/2025 12:22 systemd-coredump Process 2748 (ksystemstats_in) of user 1001 dumped core.
Stack trace of thread 2748:
#0 0x000055d0cffc6d36 n/a (/usr/lib/ksystemstats_intel_helper + 0x2d36)
#1 0x00007f59a4027635 n/a (libc.so.6 + 0x27635)
#2 0x00007f59a40276e9 __libc_start_main (libc.so.6 + 0x276e9)
#3 0x000055d0cffc75f5 n/a (/usr/lib/ksystemstats_intel_helper + 0x35f5)
ELF object binary architecture: AMD x86-64
|20/12/2025 12:18|kernel|thinkpad_acpi: acpi_evalf(BCSG, dd, ...) failed: AE_NOT_FOUND|
|---|---|---|
|20/12/2025 12:18|kernel|ACPI: \_SB_.PCI0.LPC_.EC__.HKEY: BCSG: evaluate failed|
20/12/2025 12:34 kdeconnectd Cannot find Bluez 5 adapter for device search false
…
HTH
Thanks to the Manjaro team