[Stable Update] 2024-10-01 - Kernels, Plasma 6.1.5, KDE Gear 24.08.1, LibreOffice, Virtualbox 7.1

Thanks. I will wait a week or so to observe this and if it becomes a nuisance (so it will be happening frequently), I will certainly try to do so.
There is also a volume issue introduced in the same update and that tempts me to downgrade the system again. However, this time I reported bugs and try to do something about it.

nope does not work. as soon as a go back to ā€œmanually savedā€ i cant log out, or reboot.
i guess i stick with ā€œrestore previous sessionā€

Well KDE these days tends to have upgrade issues. When you update from X.Y.5 to some X.Z.0 or whatever you might need to clear the cache folder to get a functional desktop. Only stock configurations get partly scripted to have a more smoother update experience. As soon as you have heavily customized your Plasma desktop you might have issues. You can go back to threads when 6.0 got announced. 5.26 to 5.27 was more smoother.

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Iā€™m on Manjaro KDE since Plasma 5.3 so I know something about Plasma issues :wink: . It wasnā€™t that bad. The beginning were buggy, but later, it depended on the release and the bugs were fixed quickly.

For Plasma 6, I had to delete configs and currently I use defaults, because there are no mature solutions. I miss latte-dock and its various add-ons. Anyway, at the moment, my desktop is not heavily customized.

Iā€™ll clear the cache, but I donā€™t have high hopes, because the bug happens on vanilla test user.

I installed lxqt, to see how volume works there and Iā€™m planning to check live version but it needs to have recent packages.

Well, ā€œPrincessā€ :smirk: , 6.2 will be so-what-of-stable! Here the recent quote from Nate:

The worst issues weā€™re still seeing are related to notifications freezing and being mis-rendered, caused by recent changes made to fix another significantly less severe issue. So in the worst-case scenario, we can simply revert the changes before the final 6.2 release if we donā€™t manage to fix the regressions in time.

Something I hope we can prove to the world is that weā€™re capable of keeping Plasma stable over the long haul at the same time that we add features and refine the UI. Plasma 6.2 offers us a good opportunity for it!

Letā€™s see if features over stability is still the case: This week in Plasma: converging 6.2 ā€“ Adventures in Linux and KDE - so we all fall, pick up our crown and go on ā€¦

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24.1.0 ISOs should have this state of packages. Simply try them.

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I am starting to think the kde folks are getting paid from the gnome marketing department.
Users donā€™t have to like gnome, they can hate it, as long as they hate something else more.

Every time i start to think a fancy new DE would be nice i see such topic and i am like: naaahā€¦i will stick to xfce.

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Like I said, earlier, Iā€™ve been using Plasma since 5.3, so itā€™s that buggy as people say. The problem is, that because Plasma is so complex and have various settings, no one can predict or test everything, hence bugs. However, if I had to choose between stable, featureless DE and a little less stable, but feature rich DE, I would always pick the latter.

However, Gnome is not a stable, featureless in this example. Gnome is only featurelessā€¦

Plasma however, changes in an incredible pace, so even if there is a serious bug that many people experience it, it will be soon gone. This is especially true on rolling releases.

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Since Plasma4 for me. I read about all those bugs but in its later stages at least, it was great and I had no issues at all (which couldnā€™t be easily solved). Iā€™ve stayed with Plasma ever since, because I like it so much.

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I wonder if there is a feature comparison somewhere. I strongly suspect all the important stuff is there in all DEs and what is a bonus is a nice gimmick, but not strictly necessary. Like desktop widgets for example, which are not reaaaaaly useful, since every sane person browses, watches videos, programs, writes text, presentations or calculations in maximized app windows. Or a ā€œdockā€, which is nothing more than a fancy taskbar.

Youā€™ve said this several times now, but I have checked that here on my system and I have no volume issues at all.

But for that matter, I am using pulseaudio, and I suspect that youā€™d be using pipewire. So rather than Plasma being at fault, perhaps it has to do with the sound subsystem itself. :thinking:


I didnā€™t have to do that. I just switched everything to Breeze before the update, deleted all third-party widgets that were not supported in Plasma 6 ā€” I had done my research ā€” and then logged out, switched to a tty, emptied my ~/.cache/, shut down sddm via systemctl, updated my system, and then rebooted.

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And I did an experiment. When I upgraded from 5.xx to 6, I didnā€™t disable anything, stayed logged into the GUI and did the update. Afterwards I emptied ~/.cache, as per many recommendations, double checked my theme was compatible and updated, removed any non-compatible widgets, and rebooted.

Since then Iā€™ve had no problems. So any instability is obviously not a plasma thing problem.

Could we have new version of scrcpy sooner?

I must be one of those users who has fallen into the depths of insanity. I frequently choose to use multiple windows rather than full screen. Perhaps laptop users (with smaller screens) might choose the full screen approach. :person_shrugging:

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if :computer: <= 15ā€™ then :window:=1

elif
15ā€™< :tv: < 23ā€™ then :man_shrugging:
elif
:tv: >=24ā€™ OR :tv: :tv:
then
:window: :window: :window: :window: :window: :window:
elif
:film_projector: :film_strip: > 55ā€™
then :popcorn: fi

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Every sane person? I feel we probably have a different definition of sane. Perhaps your definition of ā€œsaneā€ is ā€œlike meā€?

Pardon me, i have corrected myself :slight_smile:

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already did. did not help, but as long as restore last session works its fine

Hi, just wanted to say that Iā€™m enjoying 24.1 KDE with 6.11 kernel so far. It turned out that my issue was rather a counter-intuitive (to my mind at least) new feature of Plasma 6ā€¦ (or maybe itā€™s really a bugā€¦ dunno) also had the issue with logout/restart/shutdown, but I read here that disabling the saved session helps and it did. So, currently all good and cemented with Timeshift btrfs backups :slight_smile: