Replace bumblebee with optimus-manager

Hello everyone, a question to the creators and support of Manjaro, maybe it’s time to replace the outdated bumblebee with the developing optimus-manager, and install it in the Manjaro Settings Manager? It would be nice if someone who has old video cards can install something that actually works in one click. In Linux Mint, when you install the system, optimus-manager is automatically installed. It would be cool, what do you think of the proposal?)

… what ?

bumblebee is one, and an old deprecated one at that, way of providing the nvidia dGPU to a hybrid system.
Optimus-manager is a tool for switching between the iGPU and dGPU that Relies on technology like bumblebee to actually do that.
Besides which optimus-manager is absolute garbage.
It requires you to make hacky edits to your Display Manager.
And even then its … kinda broken and abandoned until a new maintainer took it up recently.
But its still hot trash.

And such ‘switcher’ utilities are almost never actually needed.
PRIME provides instance access with prime-run … and most people with hybrid systems dont actually want to be using one card or the other exclusively.
“hybrid” mode is what you get already without any switcher tool.

(The majority of people who ask about these things are under the mistaken impression that something like optimus-manager is required to use their more powerful card with a hybrid system … this is incorrect)

IF you actually need one for some reason … then use a reasonable one like envycontrol.

I’ll extrapolate your suggestion to a more basic "also list switcher utilities in mhwd/MSM’.

I’m of mixed feelings about mentioning/providing excess utilities in mhwd or MSM.
First and foremost - they arent drivers. mhwd is for drivers.
On the other hand it could be convenient (or enlightening) for some.
But at the same time … we already have a problem with people randomly installing all available entries there … so adding yet more (arguably unrelated) options there has a high propensity for creating more problems than it solves.

PS.
You should not be using bumblebee in any way, shape, or form if you have the ability to use PRIME.

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Thanks for your detailed opinion, I think you’re right, you can’t install it on outdated Nvidia Prime cards, I tried installing it on my GF 820m). Then the topic is closed).

Hello @angel2035! :wave:

Feedback and questions are always welcome.

However, in this case it sounds more like an XY Problem. I see your NVIDIA card supports the legacy 470 drivers, what’s wrong with using them? Please create a Graphics & Display topic if you need help with drivers.

Note that I moved your topic to Feature Request as that seems to fit better. Since @cscs covered mostly everything, I marked it as the solution.

Addendum: If one insists on using Optimus Manger, then one will soon have to use the optimus-manager-git AUR package created by the new developer that took over the upstream project. I’m actually planning on dropping related packages from the Manjaro repos. There is a history with the new developer that I will not get into at this time.

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I thought I did that. :man_shrugging:

:ninja: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Thank you, sometimes I am surprised by human care). Yes, of course, I will open the topic with drivers, I tried everything I could, perhaps it seems to be an XY problem, but I read the forums, and I myself installed Linux Mint that this is a sound optimus-manager technology, of course everything was crooked, but as I saw that it was better than bumblebee, so I offered. I agree that they sent my post to suggestions, since bumblebee should have been deleted a long time ago, it is not useful. Thanks again, I went to open the topic of drivers). As I can see still the video card does not support the drivers above 390xx NVIDIA - ArchWiki GF117M [GeForce 610M/710M/810M/820M / GT 620M/625M/630M/720M] (rev a1)

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