Radeon Ring 5 Stalled Error and System Crash

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For the past year or so I’ve been having random crashes on my system when using web browsers (normally Firefox). Usually it happens when I have video playing and click on something else. Sometimes I’ll go a week or two without it happening, other times it happens a couple of days in a row. Today it happened again and I was able to look in the error log and saw this:

kernel: x86/cpu: VMX (outside TXT) disabled by BIOS
gdm-autologin][2290]: gkr-pam: couldn’t unlock the login keyring.
systemd[2410]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
systemd[2410]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
kernel: radeon 0000:03:00.0: ring 5 stalled for more than 10117msec

I see the first few errors all the time because I have auto login enabled, but the last one is what I think is the important one. I’m using the latest kernel (6.16.8) and have a Radeon R7 260x (yes my computer is pretty old). Any idea what might be causing this?

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Have you tried using an older LTS kernel, such as linux612, linux66 or even linux61? New kernels aren’t always the best choice for an older machine. You may find that the older inbuilt AMD GPU drivers provided with older kernels work better with your hardware.

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inxi -zv8

Regards.

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I am thinking :thinking: auto login is known to cause various issues; issues which may be hard to troubleshoot; troubleshooting is a tedious elimination process

I am suggesting that you disable auto login to verify if the issue persist; as you description contains the word random - yes you may have to run without auto login for some time at least until the issue present itself or it don’t - the latter will confirm the relation to auto login.

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Have you tried using an older LTS kernel, such as linux612, linux66 or even linux61? New kernels aren’t always the best choice for an older machine. You may find that the older inbuilt AMD GPU drivers provided with older kernels work better with your hardware.

Yes I normally run 6.12 because I thought it fixed this issue but last night I ran into it while running 6.12 and I ran into it so I figured that the kernel was not the issue and went back to the latest.

I am thinking :thinking: auto login is known to cause various issues; issues which may be hard to troubleshoot; troubleshooting is a tedious elimination process

I’ll disable it and see if that helps.

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System:
  Kernel: 6.12.48-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 15.2.1
    clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12-x86_64
    root=UUID=55594bba-ae18-4e54-ad2e-ce5506f12ebb rw quiet splash apparmor=1
    security=apparmor udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: GNOME v: 48.5 tk: GTK v: 3.24.50 wm: gnome-shell
    tools: gsd-screensaver-proxy dm: GDM v: 48.0 Distro: Manjaro
    base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: EVGA model: 131-GT-E767 v: Tylersburg serial: N/A
    uuid: 00000000-0000-0000-0807-060504030201 BIOS: Phoenix v: 6.00 PG
    date: 10/26/2010
Battery:
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M510
    serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes
    status: discharging
Memory:
  System RAM: total: 12 GiB available: 11.67 GiB used: 1.92 GiB (16.5%)
  Array-1: capacity: 12 GiB note: est. slots: 6 modules: 6 EC: 8-bit Parity
    max-module-size: 2 GiB
  Device-1: A0 info: double-bank type: DDR2 detail: synchronous size: 2 GiB
    speed: N/A volts: N/A width (bits): data: 1 total: 65484 manufacturer: N/A
    part-no: N/A serial: N/A
  Device-2: A1 info: double-bank type: DDR2 detail: synchronous size: 2 GiB
    speed: N/A volts: N/A width (bits): data: 1 total: 65484 manufacturer: N/A
    part-no: N/A serial: N/A
  Device-3: A2 info: double-bank type: DDR2 detail: synchronous size: 2 GiB
    speed: N/A volts: N/A width (bits): data: 1 total: 65484 manufacturer: N/A
    part-no: N/A serial: N/A
  Device-4: A3 info: double-bank type: DDR2 detail: synchronous size: 2 GiB
    speed: N/A volts: N/A width (bits): data: 1 total: 65484 manufacturer: N/A
    part-no: N/A serial: N/A
  Device-5: A4 info: double-bank type: DDR2 detail: synchronous size: 2 GiB
    speed: N/A volts: N/A width (bits): data: 1 total: 65484 manufacturer: N/A
    part-no: N/A serial: N/A
  Device-6: A5 info: double-bank type: DDR2 detail: synchronous size: 2 GiB
    speed: N/A volts: N/A width (bits): data: 1 total: 65484 manufacturer: N/A
    part-no: N/A serial: N/A
PCI Slots:
  Slot: 1 type: PCI status: in use length: long volts: 5.0 bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 2 type: PCI status: available length: long volts: 5.0 bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 3 type: PCI status: in use length: long volts: 5.0 bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 4 type: PCIe status: available length: long volts: 5.0 bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 5 type: PCIe status: available length: long volts: 5.0 bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 6 type: PCIe status: in use length: long volts: 5.0 bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 7 type: PCIe status: available length: long volts: 5.0 bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 8 type: PCI status: available length: long volts: 5.0 bus-ID: N/A
  Slot: 9 type: PCI status: available length: long volts: 5.0 bus-ID: N/A
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7 960 socket: 423 bits: 64 type: MT MCP
    arch: Nehalem gen: core 1 level: v2 built: 2008-10 process: Intel 45nm
    family: 6 model-id: 0x1A (26) stepping: 5 microcode: 0x1D
  Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 4 cores: 4 threads: 8 tpc: 2
    smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
    desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1596 min/max: 1596/2660 base/boost: 2666/2666 scaling:
    driver: acpi-cpufreq governor: schedutil volts: 3.3 V ext-clock: 133 MHz
    cores: 1: 1596 2: 1596 3: 1596 4: 1596 5: 1596 6: 1596 7: 1596 8: 1596
    bogomips: 42471
  Flags: acpi aperfmperf apic arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc
    cpuid cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts est flush_l1d fpu fxsr ht ibpb
    ibrs lahf_lm lm mca mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat
    pbe pdcm pebs pge pni popcnt pse pse36 pti rdtscp rep_good sep ssbd sse
    sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tsc vme xtopology xtpr
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
  Type: mds status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode;
    SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data status: Unknown: No mitigations
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed status: Not affected
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Retpolines; IBPB: conditional; IBRS_FW;
    STIBP: conditional; RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not
    affected
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsa status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
  Type: vmscape status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Bonaire XTX [Radeon R7 260X/360]
    vendor: XFX Pine driver: radeon v: kernel alternate: amdgpu arch: GCN-2
    code: Sea Islands process: GF/TSMC 16-28nm built: 2013-17 pcie: gen: 2
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s ports: active: DP-1
    empty: DVI-D-1,DVI-I-1,HDMI-A-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:6658
    class-ID: 0300 temp: 40.0 C
  Display: unspecified server: X.Org v: 24.1.8 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.8
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: gpu: radeon display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x1440 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 677x381mm (26.65x15.00")
    s-diag: 777mm (30.58")
  Monitor-1: DP-1 model: Dell G2724D serial: <filter> built: 2024 res:
    mode: 2560x1440 hz: 165 scale: 100% (1) dpi: 108 gamma: 1.2 chroma: red:
    x: 0.659 y: 0.329 green: x: 0.286 y: 0.631 blue: x: 0.145 y: 0.055 white:
    x: 0.314 y: 0.329 size: 600x340mm (23.62x13.39") diag: 684mm (26.9")
    ratio: 16:9 modes: 2560x1440, 1920x1080, 1680x1050, 1280x1024, 1440x900,
    1280x960, 1280x800, 1152x864, 1280x720, 1024x768, 800x600, 720x576,
    720x480, 640x480, 720x400
  EDID-Warnings: 1: parse_edid: unknown tag 112
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: amd radeonsi platforms: device: 0 drv: radeonsi
    device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: radeonsi surfaceless: drv: radeonsi x11:
    drv: radeonsi inactive: wayland
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 25.2.3-arch1.2 glx-v: 1.4
    direct-render: yes renderer: BONAIRE (radeonsi ACO DRM 2.50
    6.12.48-1-MANJARO) device-ID: 1002:6658 memory: 1000 MiB unified: no
  Info: Tools: api: eglinfo,glxinfo x11: xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801JI HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:3a3e class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Tobago HDMI Audio [Radeon R7
    360 / R9 OEM] vendor: XFX Pine driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie:
    gen: 2 speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 16 link-max: gen: 3 speed: 8 GT/s
    bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aac0 class-ID: 0403
  API: ALSA v: k6.12.48-1-MANJARO status: kernel-api with: aoss
    type: oss-emulator tools: alsactl,alsamixer,amixer
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off tools: N/A
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.4.8 status: n/a (root, process) with:
    1: pipewire-pulse status: active 2: wireplumber status: active
    3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin tools: pactl,pw-cat,pw-cli,wpctl
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: eVga.com. driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s
    lanes: 1 port: be00 bus-ID: 07:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168 class-ID: 0200
  IF: enp7s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  Info: services: NetworkManager, systemd-timesyncd, wpa_supplicant
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Message: No bluetooth data found.
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 2.05 TiB used: 1.37 TiB (67.2%)
  SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD10EADX-22TDHB0 size: 931.51 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s tech: N/A serial: <filter> fw-rev: 4D77
    scheme: GPT
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 870 EVO 500GB
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q scheme: MBR
  ID-3: /dev/sdc maj-min: 8:32 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 850 EVO 250GB
    size: 232.89 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 2B6Q scheme: MBR
  ID-4: /dev/sdd maj-min: 8:48 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 860 EVO 500GB
    size: 465.76 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 4B6Q
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: ASUS model: DRW-24B1ST j rev: 1.11
    dev-links: cdrom
  Features: speed: 48 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes
    rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r state: running
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 465.76 GiB size: 457.38 GiB (98.20%)
    used: 259.89 GiB (56.8%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sdb1
    maj-min: 8:17 label: N/A uuid: 55594bba-ae18-4e54-ad2e-ce5506f12ebb
  ID-2: /mnt/Backups raw-size: 465.76 GiB size: 457.38 GiB (98.20%)
    used: 407.06 GiB (89.0%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sdd
    maj-min: 8:48 label: Backups uuid: ab3a709b-e0f4-431f-9716-210b2d5b2c63
  ID-3: /mnt/Storage raw-size: 931.51 GiB size: 915.82 GiB (98.31%)
    used: 740.89 GiB (80.9%) fs: ext4 block-size: 4096 B dev: /dev/sda1
    maj-min: 8:1 label: Storage uuid: 4e39a9bb-f6a3-4f4a-83d5-1aeaca074caa
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/sdc1 maj-min: 8:33 size: 232.05 GiB fs: ntfs label: Windows
    uuid: E2C8BB34C8BB05B7
  ID-2: /dev/sdc2 maj-min: 8:34 size: 853 MiB fs: ntfs label: N/A
    uuid: 5A82C48282C463DB
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 1-2:2 info: Dell KB216 Wired Keyboard type: keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 1.5 Mb/s (183 KiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.0 power: 100mA
    chip-ID: 413c:2113 class-ID: 0300
  Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 2-1:2 info: Alcor Micro Flash Card Reader/Writer
    type: mass storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 power: 250mA
    chip-ID: 058f:6362 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Hub-3: 3-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-4: 4-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 5-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-6: 6-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 7-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-8: 8-0:1 info: full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0001
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 8-1:2 info: Logitech Unifying Receiver type: keyboard,mouse,HID
    driver: logitech-djreceiver,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 98mA
    chip-ID: 046d:c52b class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: 8-2:3 info: Mad Catz Street Fighter IV FightPad for Xbox 360
    type: <vendor specific> driver: xpad interfaces: 4 rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s (1.4 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 1.1 power: 500mA
    chip-ID: 0738:4728 class-ID: ff00 serial: <filter>
  Hub-9: 9-0:1 info: hi-speed hub with single TT ports: 2 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s (57.2 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 2.0 chip-ID: 1d6b:0002
    class-ID: 0900
  Hub-10: 10-0:1 info: super-speed hub ports: 2 rev: 3.0
    speed: 5 Gb/s (596.0 MiB/s) lanes: 1 mode: 3.2 gen-1x1 chip-ID: 1d6b:0003
    class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 44.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: radeon temp: 40.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 1650 pm: dpkg pkgs: 0 pm: pacman pkgs: 1635 libs: 489
    tools: gnome-software,pamac,yay pm: flatpak pkgs: 15
  Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
    1: https://manjaro.syxpi.fr/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    2: https://mirror.koddos.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    3: https://mirror.xeonbd.com/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    4: https://manjaro.repo.cure.edu.uy/stable/$repo/$arch
    5: https://bd.mirror.vanehost.com/Manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    6: https://mirrors.jlu.edu.cn/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    7: https://mirrors.sjtug.sjtu.edu.cn/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    8: https://opencolo.mm.fcix.net/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
Processes:
  CPU top: 5 of 285
  1: cpu: 22.2% command: firefox pid: 5142 mem: 469.6 MiB (3.9%)
  2: cpu: 19.1% command: firefox pid: 5384 mem: 275.4 MiB (2.3%)
  3: cpu: 12.6% command: gnome-shell pid: 4245 mem: 343.4 MiB (2.8%)
  4: cpu: 11.2% command: gnome-terminal-server pid: 5770
    mem: 68.4 MiB (0.5%)
  5: cpu: 3.8% command: fprintd pid: 6033 mem: 10.8 MiB (0.0%)
  Memory top: 5 of 285
  1: mem: 469.6 MiB (3.9%) command: firefox pid: 5142 cpu: 22.2%
  2: mem: 406.4 MiB (3.4%) command: thunderbird pid: 4988 cpu: 3.0%
  3: mem: 343.4 MiB (2.8%) command: gnome-shell pid: 4245 cpu: 12.6%
  4: mem: 275.4 MiB (2.3%) command: firefox pid: 5384 cpu: 19.1%
  5: mem: 267.5 MiB (2.2%) command: firefox pid: 5325 cpu: 3.3%
Info:
  Processes: 285 Power: uptime: 5m states: freeze,standby,mem,disk
    suspend: s2idle avail: shallow wakeups: 0 hibernate: platform
    avail: shutdown, reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 4.64 GiB
    services: gsd-power, power-profiles-daemon, upowerd Init: systemd v: 257
    default: graphical tool: systemctl
  Compilers: clang: 20.1.8 gcc: 15.2.1 Shell: Sudo (sudo) v: 1.9.17p1
    default: Bash v: 5.3.3 running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.39
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Interestingly when I disable autologin I still get errors but they’re different now. Now it says it’s unable to locate the daemon control file instead of being unable to unlock the key ring.

Any idea what all those ‘Failed to start Application’ errors are about?

kernel: x86/cpu: VMX (outside TXT) disabled by BIOS
gdm-password][3149]: gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file
systemd[3183]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
systemd[3183]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
systemd[3183]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.
systemd[3183]: Failed to start Application launched by gnome-session-binary.

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I have those sometimes, altho not so much lately. Gnome tries to start something, it is to early so fails, tries again and works. I would not worry about it. You can follow up on all the autostart/deamons/executables that gnome-shell/gdm use/start to get a working session.

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Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.

Interesting. I thought I setup swap all those years ago but I guess not. I’ll have to read through those instructions, but whats the safest way to add swap without accidentally destroying my hard drive? Is there a way to do it through a GUI? This area isn’t my strong suit.

I made a 4GB swapfile using the commands in that article. It appears to have worked:

swapon
NAME      TYPE SIZE USED PRIO
/swapfile file   4G   0B   -2
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A swapfile on a ext4 drive would be the simplest and fastest. This is not a solution for the described issue but should be a way for the system to swap out some unused stuff when under memory pressure and prevent out of memory errors/crashes.

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I don’t think I’ve ever come close to running out of memory. I rarely do anything that could be considered memory intensive. Still, I created the swap file so hopefully that will guard against any such issue.

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Abandoned topic (30+ days)