Question about 5.10 LTS Kernel and how to evade rolling release

[realmain]

@Kobold

@realmain

And you cannot install packages without keeping your system up to date, or you cause even more breakage due to dependency issues.

Uff i didn’t know that would happend, i stayed to 5.9 till 5 days ago and updated to 5.10…

That means i missed a few updates from 5.10… can cause this already problems?

No, that’s not what I meant by up-to-date. Elaboration below:

@Kobold

@realmain

If you take too long to update, as in you skip multiple stable release cycles, you can cause even more breakage in your system.

Hmm are you talking skipping the full stable release like jumping from 5.9 to 5.11 or even smaller updates cycles like jumping from 5.10.15-1 to 5.10.18-1 could even give me breakage because i didn’t updated for 3-4 weeks and missed maybe 5.10.16 and 5.10.17?

By stable update cycles, I mean of all packages, not just kernels. Such as:

• 2021-02-09
• 2021-02-19
• 2021-02-28

Here is an extreme example of what can happen if you delayed updates. Extreme meaning this person hasn’t updated since March 2019. But it is just an example.

It can happen if you miss 3 stable update cycles, or maybe you’re lucky with 5 cycles, or maybe you’re unlucky and it was 2 cycles missed. It really depends what changed in Manjaro’s repo and what you have installed yourself.

@Kobold

@realmain

If you mean you don’t like your installer installing the newest kernel (i.e. 5.11 or 5.12) by itself, you probably have the linux-latest meta package installed. You can remove that if you want.

Thats right, thats what i mean. It depends on, how thats working for me now.
Because if i understand @Aragorn right, with 5.10 installed right now, there will be no jump automatically anyways.

So the linux-latest meta package would safe me atleast December 2022 when 5.10 goes EOL and redirect me to a new version, like a safety net? Or where is the reason to have this linux-latest feature installed?

No, linux-latest meta package is determined by the Manjaro team. It’ll probably be updated to kernel 5.11 in the future. It was on kernel 5.9 previously, which isn’t LTS.

The reason to have linux-latest installed is for users to not have to manually install the newest kernel every time; they can just let the Manjaro team decide when you get the newer kernel on your computer. The Manjaro team can just update the package to tell the package manager to install the newer kernel, i.e. 5.8 → 5.9 → 5.10