This post explains that after an upgrade to Plasma 6.4, X11 users might have no graphical login anymore. And enabling pacman to prevent such a situation automatically, seems non-trivial to me.
Nevertheless: is there an estimation when Plasma 6.4 might appear in testing?
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As with everything in Manjaro-land itāll be ready when itās ready. Feel free to switch branches if you want it sooner.
When it will be ready 
But anyway, solution is trivial, simply update as usual and install plasma-x11-session, this one command should handle all this:
sudo pacman -Syu plasma-x11-session
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I donāt need a solution because thereās no problem. Moreover, for me, thereās no use in installing plasma-x11-session since Iām on Wayland anyway.
I simply wanted to know if thereās an estimation when Plasma 6.4 will arrive on testing.
The answer to this question seems to be āNoā.
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testing branch is still the queue for stable branch, which is still on the 25.0 series of Manjaro. We are currently preparing 25.0.7 point-release of Zeta. After that we will see.
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Well i switched to the unstable branch and Plasma 6.4.4 is clearly an improvement over 6.3.6. It isnāt so huge that one must have it but i also canāt find any reason not to have it. For me staying on unstable isnāt a long term solution. If so i had chosen Arch back then but one of the reasons i didnāt was exactly the way Arch rolls. I came from Tumbleweed and this is also a rolling release but they have a QA process. Doesnāt mean you canāt screw up, but the way Arch does it, it will be just a matter of time until your system will break. From a userās perspective there is nothing you can do about it. Updating is like spinning the wheel of fortune, you never know what you will end up with.
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Been using Manjaro unstable branch for 8 years - very few issues I didāt create myself.
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testing is currently used as queue for stable updates. There we donāt target Plasma 6.4 yet. unstable may get package updates or will sync with Arch stable packages. Sometimes we still have to fix some of our overlay packages, when a rebuild is needed. Otherwise, unstable is usable, when you are not blindly updating your system, when new packages might be available.
- Manjaro Unstable roughly corresponds to Arch Stable.
- Manjaro Testing is our curating branch ā the Q&A step.
- Manjaro Stable is our official branch.
- Manjaro Summit is our immutable branch.
I have had the same experience with Arch proper - or with EOS, which is what I used to install after Antergos was gone.
I have since (about a year ago) decided for myself, that I do not need the very latest software all the time - it just needs to work reliably.
So: I switched to Mint - which, to me, is a better Ubuntu.
More current than the latest Debian.
Very much good enough.
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Haha well I must agree - but it really depends on what you do and what you useā¦
Mint was great for me, until I started needing software that just wasnāt availableā¦ the repo versions were too old and stuff like the forks from XBMC Media just werenāt up to scratch, this was before we had Flatpaks etcā¦
Then the unholy issue - PPAās are made for Ubuntu, and end up causing issues if you use them in Mint.
So youāre stuck on Stable, or you need the rolling modelā¦ and the next force was that a few private trackers I was using approved versions of qBittorrent that just werenāt up for grabs - and sometimes you need those recent fixesā¦ especially ones that communicate with trackers.
Trying to use repos on Mint, similar issues to using AUR with Manjaro - itās not Arch, so it can take a while longer for the layers to alignā¦ but when that happens, it snaps to the latest stable step.
Until that happens, itās a process which isnāt entirely predictable. My guess is that it could take another monthā¦ but Iām happy enough with 6.3 for now - and itās a damn sight more stable than the 5.2xxx series we went through a while back.
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Just wanted to add that 6.4.4 is still prone to plasma crashes so waiting for 6.4.5 may be better for those on stable, apparently there is a fix for a notification bug that crashes plasma.
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This isnāt my experience. So far no crashes. I also interacted more with notifications to run into the issue you posted but it didnāt occur. Investigating the bug reports related to this issue it appeared first already before the official 6.4.0 release. Since it took so long to fix it seems one doesnāt run into this frequently, else this probably had been fixed already with 6.4.1 or earlier. Another indication of stability might be openSUSE Slowroll which currently ships Plasma 6.4.3. Tumbleweed is much closer to Arch, and I understand skipping over 6.4.0 but after three rounds of bug fixing it should be good to be tested i think.
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Plasma 6.4.5 is scheduled for Tue 2025-09-09. Plasma 6.5.0 for Tue 2025-10-21 followed by 6.5.1 on Tue 2025-10-28. After that 6.5.2 is expected on Tue 2025-11-04. The last release of 6.4 series is scheduled for on Tue 2025-11-11 as 6.4.6.
When we look at GNOME we will have 49.0 on 2025-09-17 and 49.1 on 2025-10-11.
To plan a new release of Manjaro as the distribution, we have to consider on what we want to provide, which new desktop environments we introduce and when. Zetar is focused on Plasma 6.3, GNOME 48.x and XFCE 4.20.
For the upcoming Manjaro 25.1 release we might have GNOME 49.x, XFCE 4.20 and some newer Plasma release, depending when we find time to do so.
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Itās great you havenāt been affected by these bugs, I know what itās like to be in your position where some bugs seem to have never affected me.
The speed a bug is fixed isnāt necessarily related to the fequency it causes crashes, it typically means the bug is harder to fix. The bug is apparently fixed for 6.4.5ā¦ I am also affected by different bug too.
Iāve been using KDE for over 18 years, and this 6.4. series of releases seems to have had the most plasma crashes Iāve ever remember experiencing.
Anyway, itās not like Manjaro (stable) is the slowest to reach the latest version of KDE, distroās like Kubuntu also skip over several bug fix releases too.
Wow - now Iām curious how 6-4 could be worse than 5-25 and friendsā¦ that was bigger than 9-11!
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I think some here may remember that I was one of the ones not experiencing the āhorrorā that others were plagued by.
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For sure, most of the smarter cookies held back - I jumped on unstable a couple of times and rolled back a few times to stable. Itās a time when the question āwhen will the NEXT Plasma comeā became ever more amusingā¦ so it is with genuine trepidation that I hear you say you find 6.4 is bringing more issues for you.
Stay safe!
Funnily enough the Plasma bugs listed as high priority (in this week in plasma) and other bugs donāt seem to affect me at all.
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