Pipewire-pulse.service not starting

1 pipewire-pulse.service not starting in cinnamon.
2 If I manually start it it gives a connection error

1 systemctl --user status pipewire-pulse, reports it as dead.
2 systemctl --user --now enable pipewire-pulse, reports it starting and then a connection error.
pipewire-pulse.socket is working.

Tried xfce and it had the same problem.
Tried kde and that works so perhaps a gtk problem?

this error also
wireplumber[1481]: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner

We’re going to need a little more information than that.

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Well funny enough today I built a new cinnamon iso and image my surprise when I noticed a sound icon in the tray. Yes it all appears to be working now.

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