I just discovered by accident that the Pamac GTK4 GUI (the process pamac-manager) consumes the very impressive 700-800 MB RAM just by opening itself. Is it something on my side that needs fixing, or is it by everybody and nobody noticed, or is it “normal” as in “yeah it is broken but we don’t care” 
Pamac GTK4 consumes about 900MB
whereas Pamac GTK3 consumes about 1,4 GB…
You are kidding me, right?
Just for comparison, Octopi consumes about 160-200 MB
Yepp I can confirm that:
- Pamac GTK3 → ~190MB
- Pamac GTK4 → ~800MB
For me that is not an issue, since I have enough RAM and starts in pretty equal time.
Probably just because of the new GTK4 framework.
It’s not the GTK4 by itself, because i have a lot of other gtk4 apps like Baobab and they run normal (with like 100MB). It might be the manjaro implementation of it.
not really.
when i press pamac-gtk3 on “updates”, the gnome-syste-monitor says 850MB
with Pamac-GTK4 on the other hand 950MB
It’s quite probable…
… that pamac is buggy, yes. Otherwise, from the gtk4 crop, i have gnome-logs, baobab, gnome-firmware. Each of them runs with 70 MB RAM. So, no, gtk4 is not THAT resource intensive, otherwise if every program made with it needed a Gig of RAM, nobody would use it.
Probably compare it by pmap:
pmap -p $(pgrep pamac-manager) | sort -h -k2
GTK3
530989: pamac-manager
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gesamt 2755216K
So you see anything relevant? From what I see: GTK4 uses here GPU accelearation (OpenGL) and therefore needs more RAM for caching.
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The AUR database is really large and loading it requires a lot of memory. Made you’re experiencing this?
I have aur enabled, but octopi uses the same database and still…160 mb.
I am on xfce if that matters.
Does it really use the manjaro-hosted file or the API directly?
It seems so…
No I dont think so.
It has AUR support - but not manjaro’s specific db cache that was made for the expressed purpose of helping pamac not DDOS the AUR.
(because there just wasnt any other way? … heh … idk … pamac so silly)
For what its worth … I just checked and pamac-gtk seemed to use about 178 mb.
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Enabling the AUR in itself in Pamac will make use of lot of RAM.
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