Pamac-cli and pamac-manager unreliable

This is the previous issue I had, half year ago: [Stable Update] 2025-05-19 - Firefox, Thunderbird, KDE Gear, KDE Frameworks - #56 by denilsonsa

I also found a few other posts of users talking about pamac crashing:


Well, that seems to be just a wrapper around common system tools across multiple distros. Specifically for Manjaro, it will call pamac upgrade. So, I’m sorry, but that seems like it won’t solve the issue. In fact, it sounds like it can suffer from the exact same issue.


I don’t remember ever switching to an unstable branch of anything. Looking at the pamac history, I see these relevant lines:

[2025-12-23T11:49:45+0100] [ALPM] upgraded pamac-gtk (11.7.4-1 -> 11.7.4-2)
[2025-12-23T11:49:45+0100] [ALPM] upgraded pamac-cli (11.7.4-1 -> 11.7.4-2)
[2025-12-23T11:49:45+0100] [ALPM] upgraded pacutils (0.15.0-1 -> 0.15.0-2)
[2025-12-23T11:49:45+0100] [ALPM] upgraded pacman-static (7.0.0.r6.gc685ae6-9 -> 7.1.0.r7.gb9f7d4a-1)
[2025-12-23T11:49:43+0100] [ALPM] upgraded pacman-contrib (1.13.0-1 -> 1.13.1-1)
[…]
[2025-12-23T11:49:35+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libpamac-flatpak-plugin (11.7.4-1 -> 11.7.4-4)
[2025-12-23T11:49:34+0100] [ALPM] upgraded libpamac (11.7.4-1 -> 11.7.4-4)
[2025-12-23T11:49:21+0100] [ALPM] upgraded pacman (7.0.0.r10.ga2d0293-3 -> 7.1.0.r7.gb9f7d4a-3)
[…]
[2025-12-23T11:49:20+0100] [ALPM] warning: /etc/pacman.conf installed as /etc/pacman.conf.pacnew
[2025-12-23T11:49:20+0100] [ALPM] warning: /etc/makepkg.conf.d/fortran.conf installed as /etc/makepkg.conf.d/fortran.conf.pacnew
[2025-12-23T11:49:20+0100] [ALPM] warning: /etc/makepkg.conf installed as /etc/makepkg.conf.pacnew

And the output of inxi -zv8, with several sections redacted for privacy and for brevity (as those sections are not relevant):

inxi -zv8
System:
  Kernel: 6.12.61-1-MANJARO arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 15.2.1
    clocksource: tsc avail: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-6.12-x86_64
    root=UUID=c2c41a52-2ae1-4701-a1c2-364264ddb6c0 rw quiet threadirqs
    udev.log_priority=3
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.5.4 tk: Qt v: N/A info: frameworks v: 6.21.0
    wm: kwin_wayland vt: 1 dm: SDDM Distro: Manjaro base: Arch Linux
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: HP product: HP EliteDesk 800 G2 DM 65W v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 15 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: HP model: 8056 v: KBC Version 05.39 serial: <superuser required>
    part-nu: L2X86AV uuid: <superuser required> Firmware: UEFI vendor: HP
    v: N21 Ver. 02.61 date: 03/17/2023
Battery:
[…]
Memory:
[…]
PCI Slots:
  Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core i7-6700 bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Skylake-S
    gen: core 6 level: v3 note: check built: 2015 process: Intel 14nm family: 6
    model-id: 0x5E (94) stepping: 3 microcode: 0xF0
  Topology: cpus: 1x dies: 1 clusters: 4 cores: 4 threads: 8 tpc: 2
    smt: enabled cache: L1: 256 KiB desc: d-4x32 KiB; i-4x32 KiB L2: 1024 KiB
    desc: 4x256 KiB L3: 8 MiB desc: 1x8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1718 min/max: 800/4000 scaling: driver: intel_pstate
    governor: powersave cores: 1: 1718 2: 1718 3: 1718 4: 1718 5: 1718 6: 1718
    7: 1718 8: 1718 bogomips: 54417
  Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat
    arch_capabilities arch_perfmon art avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush
    clflushopt cmov constant_tsc cpuid cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64
    dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fma fpu
    fsgsbase fxsr ht hwp hwp_act_window hwp_epp hwp_notify ibpb ibrs ida
    intel_pt invpcid lahf_lm lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe mpx msr
    mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge
    pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti pts rdrand rdseed rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep
    sgx smap smep smx ss ssbd sse sse2 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm
    tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic
    xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt xsaves xtopology xtpr
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: gather_data_sampling status: Vulnerable: No microcode
  Type: indirect_target_selection status: Not affected
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT
    vulnerable
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: mmio_stale_data mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
  Type: reg_file_data_sampling status: Not affected
  Type: retbleed mitigation: IBRS
  Type: spec_rstack_overflow status: Not affected
  Type: spec_store_bypass mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via
    prctl
  Type: spectre_v1 mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer
    sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: IBRS; IBPB: conditional; STIBP: conditional;
    RSB filling; PBRSB-eIBRS: Not affected; BHI: Not affected
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
  Type: tsa status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort mitigation: TSX disabled
  Type: vmscape mitigation: IBPB before exit to userspace
Graphics:
[…]
Audio:
[…]
Network:
[…]
Bluetooth:
[…]
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 238.47 GiB used: 165.62 GiB (69.5%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Samsung model: MZ7LN256HMJP-000H1
    size: 238.47 GiB block-size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s
    tech: SSD serial: <filter> fw-rev: 1H3Q temp: 25.0 C scheme: GPT
  Message: No optical or floppy data found.
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 238.17 GiB size: 233.38 GiB (97.99%)
    used: 165.62 GiB (71.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 label: N/A
    uuid: c2c41a52-2ae1-4701-a1c2-364264ddb6c0
  ID-2: /boot/efi raw-size: 300 MiB size: 299.4 MiB (99.80%)
    used: 328 KiB (0.1%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1 label: NO_LABEL
    uuid: 8D09-CB07
[…]
Swap:
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache-pressure: 100 (default) zswap: no
  ID-1: swap-1 type: file size: 512 MiB used: 504.4 MiB (98.5%) priority: -2
    file: /swapfile
Unmounted:
  Message: No unmounted partitions found.
USB:
[…]
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0 C pch: 37.0 C mobo: N/A
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: 2849 pm: dpkg pkgs: 0 pm: pacman pkgs: 2786 libs: 443 tools: pamac
    pm: flatpak pkgs: 63
  Active pacman repo servers in: /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
    1: https://mirror.futureweb.be/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    2: https://manjaro.kurdy.org/stable/$repo/$arch
    3: https://manjaro.syxpi.fr/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    4: https://mirror.alpix.eu/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    5: https://mirror.easyname.at/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    6: https://manjaro.ynh.ovh/stable/$repo/$arch
    7: https://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/linux/manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch
    8: https://manjaro.mirrors.lavatech.top/stable/$repo/$arch
Processes:
[…]
Info:
  Processes: 340 Power: uptime: 13d 15h 22m states: freeze,mem,disk
    suspend: deep avail: s2idle wakeups: 28 hibernate: platform avail: shutdown,
    reboot, suspend, test_resume image: 12.39 GiB services: org_kde_powerdevil,
    power-profiles-daemon, upowerd Init: systemd v: 258 default: graphical
    tool: systemctl
  Compilers: clang: 21.1.6 gcc: 15.2.1 Shell: Zsh v: 5.9 default: Bash
    v: 5.3.9 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.40