Open windows after boot

Hi there,

I have a weird and annoying issue with my manjaro install.

It seems like there are a lot of windows open when I am starting my computer. “Konversations” i.e. and then also randomly others, mostly programs which have been open while shutting down. But not all of them and I fail to find a pattern in it.

I am not sure which information is needed in order to find the problem so here the usual:

$ inxi -Fazy
  Kernel: 5.9.11-3-MANJARO x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.0 
  parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.9-x86_64 
  root=UUID=96197d22-38ae-4c28-9aa9-c6524b7e8040 rw 
  resume=UUID=99721703-11e6-4ea0-95f2-38b90e2256d2 udev.log_priority=3 
  Desktop: KDE Plasma 5.20.4 tk: Qt 5.15.2 wm: kwin_x11 dm: SDDM 
  Distro: Manjaro Linux 
  Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 20BHS0L000 v: ThinkPad W540 
  serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 10 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: LENOVO model: 20BHS0L000 serial: <filter> UEFI: LENOVO 
  v: GNET90WW (2.38 ) date: 03/25/2019 
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 89.1 Wh condition: 89.4/99.5 Wh (90%) volts: 12.3/10.8 
  model: SANYO 45N1779 type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Unknown 
  Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-4800MQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Haswell family: 6 model-id: 3C (60) stepping: 3 microcode: 28 
  L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 43119 
  Speed: 2542 MHz min/max: 800/3700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 
  3: 798 4: 800 5: 798 6: 799 7: 798 8: 800 
  Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX disabled 
  Type: l1tf 
  mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable 
  Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable 
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI 
  Type: spec_store_bypass 
  mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp 
  Type: spectre_v1 
  mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization 
  Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional, 
  IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling 
  Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode 
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected 
  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: Lenovo 
  driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0416 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GK107GLM [Quadro K1100M] driver: N/A 
  alternate: nouveau, nvidia_drm, nvidia bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 10de:0ff6 
  Device-3: Lite-On Integrated Camera type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
  bus ID: 2-12:7 chip ID: 04ca:7035 
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.10 compositor: kwin_x11 driver: intel 
  display ID: :0 screens: 1 
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3840x1080 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 1013x285mm (39.9x11.2") 
  s-diag: 1052mm (41.4") 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 20.2.3 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio 
  vendor: Lenovo driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 
  chip ID: 8086:0c0c 
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20 
  Device-3: NVIDIA GK107 HDMI Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel 
  bus ID: 01:00.1 chip ID: 10de:0e1b 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.9.11-3-MANJARO 
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I217-LM vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e v: kernel 
  port: 5080 bus ID: 00:19.0 chip ID: 8086:153a 
  IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: efa0 
  bus ID: 03:00.0 chip ID: 8086:08b2 
  IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Local Storage: total: 931.52 GiB used: 217.19 GiB (23.3%) 
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required. 
  ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Intenso model: SSD Sata III size: 465.76 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> 
  rev: 6A scheme: GPT 
  ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Crucial model: CT500MX500SSD1 size: 465.76 GiB 
  block size: physical: 512 B logical: 512 B speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> 
  rev: 023 scheme: GPT 
  ID-1: / raw size: 448.39 GiB size: 440.35 GiB (98.21%) 
  used: 217.19 GiB (49.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2 
  Kernel: swappiness: 60 (default) cache pressure: 100 (default) 
  ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 17.07 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2 
  dev: /dev/sda3 
  System Temperatures: cpu: 47.0 C mobo: 0.0 C 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 1623 
  Processes: 241 Uptime: 27m Memory: 15.52 GiB used: 2.84 GiB (18.3%) 
  Init: systemd v: 246 Compilers: gcc: 10.2.0 Packages: pacman: 1439 lib: 376 
  Shell: Bash v: 5.0.18 running in: konsole inxi: 3.1.08 


  • Asuming you are running the KDE version of manjaro.
    (Backed-up by your profile info)

Because i’m not using KDE i’m unable to pinpoint you to the section in your settings, but there is an entry where you can select to start with a fresh session at login.
It’s default is to save the session IIRC…

You are assuming right =)

I am sorry to be so uniformed but what qualifies as a session? I typed that into the manjaro wiki but it didn’t come up with anything. I don’t get it.

also i always close the “conversations” window and it opens up every time and others don’t I fail to find any consistency in it.

Try the application menu or krunner or system settings

That kind will be in your auto startup applications settings, again can’t pin-point the exact setting name or location.

Every login into the GUI (or terminal) is qualified as a session.

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Do you mean I should try to type “application menu”, “krunner” or “system settings” into the manjaro-wiki search bar? Because I just did that and its futile. for krunner there are no results and the other ones give me to many unrelated (hundreds).
What is the definition of a session in manjaro? can you please provide me with a link or an explanation? It would be most welcomed :smiley:

No you could try to type that at your application menu’s search bar :wink:
(Eg. the menu you use to find applications to start)

That term is used in all Linux variants and mostly refers to a “Login session”, maybe your translator does a better job when you try that phrase :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

Ok I will look for it thank you.

Ok check, that brings me closer to an answer

yes that was the first thing I did, but krunner doesn’t seem to be of any help, if I understand it correctly it is some sort of mini terminal and not connected to which windows are opened after booting? I might be wrong since i didn’t use it all so far (I might look into it, for some reason it doesn’t start when I press F2)

system settings
I looked of course into my system settings and found the settings called “autostart” where I could add applications which (if I understood this correctly) would start applications automatically, but it is completely empty, no entry.

applications menu
If I type this into my applications menu search bar (super-key) I find stuff which is unfortunately unrelated to the applications starting without any sense problem I am having

so you are saying that my login session are basically never ended?

If your session is saved at logout/reboot/etc then it is restored to last state.
Thats why i said:

Open the “system settings”.
In the search bar of system settings window type session. In results you will get Desktop Session under Workspace category.
Then click on Desktop Session, in there click on “Start with an Empty Session”.
From now, on boot or new login, non of the previously open apps will open.


Thanks @terra9, it’s so hard to guide people when you use a different system :face_with_hand_over_mouth:
You pin-pointed it :+1:

Thank you a lot, but I typed sessions in the search bar from my system settings no results at all also after looking into the workspace category I couldn’t find anything.

I tried to change the system language into English, in the hope of maybe being able to follow your approach but it didn’t work and it remained in German. I don’t know what i did wrong.

In the German version you have to look in App Systemeinstellungen

Arbeitsbereich -> Starten und Beenden -> Arbeitsflächen-Sitzung

and then click on

Mit leerer Sitzung starten


Cool thank you so much :smiley: I appreciate it a lot. You are a great people.

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This is a practical example of why i posted:


It’s not that I don’t understand English I speak it since I’ve been 12 years old but the system settings can be confusing. I don’t write this because I feel offended or something (lol) it’s just that the issue is especially with system settings or internal stuff you know?