No taskbar in Wayland KDE

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Per title I switched monitors and since then when booting into Wayland session my taskbar is gone and mouse doesnt activate sometimes. Booting into X11 works great. Can anyone help?
Thanks !!

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You normally need to create panels per monitor – at least that’s been my experience. When I add a different display, l usually need to create a new panel for it. :wink:

ETA:
For passers-by: Right-click on an empty area of the desktop → Enter Edit Mode → Add Panel :wink:

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Your post is not very clear. Are you talking of a multi-monitor setup, or are you talking of the replacement of a (potentially broken) monitor by one of a different type?

Also, please note that a panel and a task manager are not the same thing. You’ll get better answers if you use the correct vernacular.

Do not use MS-Windows vernacular in the expectation that everyone here will know what you mean, because not everyone is a Windows user, and MS-Windows is an entirely different and completely unrelated operating system design.

In KDE Plasma, the task manager is an applet on a panel, and there are three separate and distinct types, being…:backhand_index_pointing_down:

  • the Icons-Only Task Manager;
  • the Classic Task Manager (which shows the application name and/or window title); and
  • the Window List (which is a vertical menu with application names and window titles).
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Thanks guys. Fixed it by editing desktop and adding bottom panel. I’m such a noob. I have old system 8gb ram and have 1 monitor.

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I justa had this (very focussed) issue - different circumstances, but it’s just an issue with your settings not interfering with the X11 session.

This not only happened to me, but also someone else just yesterday.

I got their solution from the journal - you didn’t think to look for errors?
journalctl -p3 -xb --no-hostname

For simple ‘brainless’ fixing, first you try three steps:

  1. Test with a new user… if Wayland works there, it’s definitely you… go to 2.
  2. Diagnose by the half-split method:

Brute force troubleshooting…

mv ~/.config ~/.configBORKED

  • Logout and log back in again to force plasma to recreate the folder with default settings
dolphin --split ~/.config ~/.configBORKED
  • Copy back half of the BORKED folder contents at a time and relog to see if issue returns
  • If it does, then delete the folder again, relog, and only copy half of that previous half.
  • Repeat until the culprit is found, then finally, copy back everything BUT that culprit bit…
  • Using MELD, compare the culprit with your ‘fixed’ version and try to work out what’s changed.

In my case, it was a call for some gesture, for the other case it was an old script.

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Divide and conquer. This is exactly what we use(d) in the service trade. :100:

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Yeah, put it on the left!

/me ducks :grimacing:

Hey now! When did Windows even come up? :grinning_face:

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:backhand_index_pointing_right: “Taskbar”. :backhand_index_pointing_left:

:grin:

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https://docs.kde.org/stable_kf6/en/plasma-desktop/plasma-desktop/panel.html

Taskbar

The taskbar is another widget on the panel. It shows an area for all open windows on all desktops by default. You can make it show all open windows on the current desktop only by checking Only show tasks from the current desktop when you right click on the task manager, between two windows. …

There is more Windows in Plasma than you even know!

Hotkeys iare dentical all over the place too.

Obvious ones sure, but heck even Meta+Ctrl+S for snipping a screenshot.

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That’s because most of today’s developers in the GNU/Linux ecosystem are unfortunately (former) Windows users.

The original KDE developers were UNIX guys, and the name KDE was itself even a pun on CDE, the Motif-based standard desktop environment on Hewlett-Packard HP/UX, IBM AIX, SCO Unix, SGI IRIX and Sun Solaris. :wink:

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Well, also KDE has always set out to be an easy transition from Windows to Linux based Operating Systems. It certainly made it a lot easier for me back in the day.

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I thought Cinnamon was the one more closely designed for people switching from Windows. It’s what I started out with on Mint, but I found KDE Plasma refreshingly “different”, so to speak. :wink:

Plasma has so many more lovely options and settings, which I think might slightly confuse the average M$ drone, sheeple, whatever.

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I imagine @Aragorn had to start with the basic changes first,

Cut Ctrl_Shift_X
Copy Ctrl_Alt_C
Paste Ctrl_Meta_P

Anything resembling Windows must be eradicated, right?

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Wow, this is a weird solution… if you booted and chose X11, then the panel was already there…

So now we have a classic Windows user style fix - a classic XY problem where you solved the problem of your existing panel not being visible by simply adding another one on top of it???

  • @Aragorn wins todays Elite Pedant :military_medal:

  • I win an award for offering an excellent solution that would address the root cause (i.e. resetting the panel configuration)

  • And YOU win an award for possibly having two bottom panels stacked, or with the original panel still lurking somewhere… :sports_medal:

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Actually, those are not Microsoft inventions. They come from the IBM CUA (“Common User Access”) standard, and Apple also implements them, albeit with different modifier keys.

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Yes, I know.

Have you heard of ‘baiting’? :stuck_out_tongue:

Note that, apart from the physical appearance of the Meta key, the ALT key was an invention of the IBM PC - hence why I also included that :wink: because obviously Ctrl preceded Windows as did the Meta and Shift keys.

So now a gratuitous keyboard image evoking early memories of quality keyboards built to last:

https://i.redd.it/xwckfj5pxym81.jpg(image larger than 1 MB)

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Very nice. :wink:

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