Networking / ? keyring authentication

cinnamon DE

I turn the desktop PC off at night and turn it on next day . within several seconds it automatically has internet access via wifi .
there’s been a sudden change since 3-4 days ago. now, an authentication window pops up wanting a default keyring password - before network internet access can be enabled. once I type the password I still must confirm the password for the ssid in networking before it will connect. I don’t recall any major updates . I would like to have my auto connect back. could someone please explain this ; if anyone knows about it .

I might guess its a pacnew?

pacdiff -o

Or the keyring is somehow otherwise messed up.

Its also worth noting that in many cases ‘autologin’ will break automatic keyring opening (as there isnt an authentication occurring) thus you have to unlock it with whatever first action requires the keyring.

Is it gnome keyring?

I think it is the gnome keyring. I installed cinnamon DE . I only have 1 password ; I don’t know about keys, certificates etc . , that might need the keyring. I would just as soon not have it if possible .
hmmm, don’t know why it’s been working fine with autologin and now all of a sudden , there’s a change .

Does that mean you were using GNOME and switched to Cinnamon? I know nothing about Cinnamon or what keyring it uses but I do know that GNOME stores Wi-Fi passwords in GNOME keyring…

No , I remember installing from here- Manjaro Downloads

Went digging.
Cinnamon edition uses gnome-keyring.

Are you using autologin?

If that is the case, the system will not unlock your keyring. Thus you will be challenged to do so.

Another way around it is to remove the password on the keyring.

This can be done using the Password and Keys application - package name seahorse

Yes but why did the system do just fine for all this time and then suddenly start asking for a passwoed? I’ll check out seahorde .
thank you very much

autologin usually breaks keyring automatic unlocking.

I installed seahorse but I’m not quite sure what I need to do next , if anything .

As I recall it - right click on your keyring and change password - then set it to an empty password

The answer to as why it has worked could be any number of reasons - I cannot guess this.

The most obvious reason is that you didn’t have any passwords or network logins stored in the keyring - thus nothing to protect.

That guessed - autologin has always proved to cause a prompt to open keyring when network aware apps was launched and an autologin user was used.

Simply search the forum for autologin keyring

ok , I read up on it a little . I only have 1 password so I don’t need a manager ; so I deleted every password in keyring . I don’t even understand how there chrome passwords anyway .

This is an example where such info would have made a difference if it where included in the orignal topic.

If you connected your chrome browser to your gmail - then yes you have a password.

Browsers almost always need an unlocked keyring - autologin prevents automatic unlocking - that is how it should be and how it has always been.

I guess I just don’t understand how all this works. I was autologging in just fine and then something changed recently and the keyring started popping up. anyway , I deleted the passwords in the keyring and now it’s worse. I understand a little better.
I explored/read some posts from your search term provided.

is there a way to remove / uninstall the keyring? I only have 1 password
for , let’s say my local linux/manjaro system. I do understand that my browsers have passwords - for sites , like say amazon and any other individual site ; and they save passwords ; but those passwords aren’t related / integrated with the keyring, right ? anyway why do I need a keyring password just to open chrome browser ?

That is exactly what they are - when you choose to save a password for e.g. amazon the keyring is used.

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