Need an explanation on a Manjaro vs non Manjaro post

If I am in my Manjaro and open my virtualbox and run an OS that is not Manjaro and end up having an issue with a package I installed that has nothing to do with the OS such as steam can’t I get support from the Manjaro site?

If the package you are having an issue with comes from the repositories of the other distribution or operating system in your virtual machine, then that is not a Manjaro issue, and then you should ask for help with that at the appropriate venue(s).

As an example, say that you are running a virtual machine with Microsoft Windows, and you are having difficulty with a Windows game, or with Microsoft Office, or whatever, then unless the problem would be caused by your Manjaro host — e.g. a firewalling issue in Manjaro itself — it is not a Manjaro problem.

Another example. Say that you are running Debian in your virtual machine, and upon updating your Debian or installing a Debian package from the Debian repositories, you are having a problem with apt-get, or the package’s signature is corrupt, then that is not a Manjaro problem.

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I understand the Windows example. That is obvious.
However Do other OS’s use the same packages no matter what repository they come from?

So let’s stay with Steam . Is the Steam package the same package that Manjaro uses vs Let’s say Arch uses?

How would I know?
If the version is the same such as they both are 6.4.1 Aren’t they the same?
Unless the OS specifically repackaged it.
If they did repackage it wouldn’t it say -Manjaro or something like that like the kernels are?

In the case of Arch and Manjaro, yes. But not in the case of, say, SUSE and Manjaro — if SUSE is even supported by Steam; I don’t know.

That would make sense, yes.

In case of arch and manjaro, you can easily tell what is modified and what comes as is from arch, if you look at the email address of the packager.
Another way would be to browse a mirror, the arch packages are in the sync directory, manjaro ones in overlay.

In all other cases, like for example manjaro and debian, you cannot rely on that the stuff is identical.

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I am sure you know why I am asking this question.
I run ArcoLinux in Virtualbox that is installed on my Manjaro OS.
I had a problem with Steam running in the virtualbox and when the admin here found out I was running it out of Arcolinux they immediately closed it and deleted it and told me to go to ArcoLinux with the problem.
I have never looked into the nuts and bolts of the packages that I am running if they have been modified by the OS I am using but I will do this in the future.

I would just ask for the admins here to not just make a knee jerk reaction to reject help.
I don’t know everything and would ask for some guidance maybe.
I get it you are not going to support all these OS’s and I am not asking you to.
There are many Arch based OS’s and I am sure they share some of the same packages.

Thanks for reading this. I will mark this solved.

Wasn’t me. I’ve only been an admin here for about two weeks now. :stuck_out_tongue:

We don’t jerk our knees, but the forum rules must be respected, or else we get chaos.

Only a few days ago I closed somebody’s thread because they were asking for help with Debian, and about a week ago, somebody asking for help with the installation of Garuda.

And then there was that guy who repeatedly (!) wanted Manjaro to implement Secure Boot for everyone so that he could run anti-cheat games… on Microsoft Windows. I kid you not.

The main difference between Arch, Garuda, EndeavourOS and most other Arch derivatives on the one hand, and Manjaro on the other hand, is the same as the reason why the use of the AUR is not officially supported, namely that Manjaro is a curated rolling-release distribution, which means that the packages in Manjaro Stable — and some in Testing — are lagging behind version-wise on those used by Arch Stable and the Stable branches of those other Arch derivatives.

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Thanks for the explanation. I appreciate that. I love Manjaro as an Arch OS. It is my main OS I use. I do have a pure Arch partition I use also to test different kernels. I am hoping one day a kernel or firmware update will fix my Bluetooth issue but I won’t get into that here.
I hope also that I can learn more and help people with their issues sometimes.

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