Mozilla is introducing a terms of use and updated privacy notice for Firefox

Well, I make it short and point you to the biscuits:

You Give Mozilla Certain Rights and Permissions

You give Mozilla all rights necessary to operate Firefox, including processing data as we describe in the Firefox Privacy Notice, as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet. When you upload or input information through Firefox, you hereby grant us a nonexclusive, royalty-free, worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate, experience, and interact with online content as you indicate with your use of Firefox.

From: Firefox: About Your Rights — Mozilla


Discussions about this change:


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A lot of confusion about the legalese in this one led them to attempt to explain.

Certainly not enough to drive me to brave or even Vivaldi.

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What are some good non-Chromium alternatives?

The main reason I use Firefox is to do my part in preventing Google from having a monopoly on the core internet tech. Once all of the internet is chromium, which is wholly controlled by google, they will try to push more of the malicious standards like the browser “attestation” one they tried to push through a bit ago.

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Unsurprising to see the same cries-wolf/talking-head/perpetually-confused/clout-chasing youtube ‘personalities’ among the cited links.

The hacker news thread is at least partially populated with more serious people opting for discussion over sensationalism.

HEADLINES WITHOUT SUBSTANCE is how we do things now, I guess.

The idea that Brave is a privacy or freedom oriented alternative is just … chefs kiss.

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Well, lets see how this one plays out. The TOS just got recently introduced and eveyone is free to use whatever browser they want.

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Hi,

Thanks for the info

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Vivaldi’s terms of use and privacy policy sound much more user-friendly than Mozilla’s.

EDIT: I just tried to use Vivaldi. It crashed twice within an hour. I don’t like its GUI much either. For now, I will stay with Firefox but disable all data collection preferences.

EDIT #2: I decided to give Vivaldi another chance because I really like Vivaldi for Android, and two other forum members said that the Linux version doesn’t crash for them. I configured the UI to my liking this time. It was running in Xwayland when it kept crashing, so I enabled native Wayland support, which seems to have solved the problem.

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I only use Firefox derivates. I am also affected by this policy?

Recommended by Privacy Respecting Web Browsers for PC and Mac - Privacy Guides

Well, I’m going to be a refuge again. now it’s the web browser… Last time it was my android (Nova) launcher.

Edit: spotted on reddit.

Seems fairly harmless, honestly.

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Yep, Click Bait drives the Inter Tubes.

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Sad but true - the whole world. Watching politics, we’re in a post-truth apocalypse where the truth isn’t what people want because sometimes it requires just a bit more thought than the clickbait title would suggest… and they would rather jump to a quick conclusion than admit that even when you’re sure of something - you could be completely wrong.

I sometimes use Librewolf.

That’s true, but we can see a pattern from Mozilla, for many years now.

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They are removing all claims from their website that they don’t sell your data and never will. They are intentionally vague about which data they plan to sell.

Also, if we’re not allowed to “upload, download, transmit, display, or grant access to content that includes graphic depictions of sexuality or violence,” does that mean I may not stream murder mystery TV shows or movies using Firefox because they depict graphic violence?

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I stopped using Firefox several years ago when the CEO expressed his full support for internet censorship.

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Looking for Firefox alternatives - what is the reason Manjaro prefers Palemoon over Librewolf?
aur/librewolf 135.0.1-1
extra/palemoon 33.6.0.1-1
Can Librewolf be added to the repo as the privacy alternative?

They really did not a good job with the wording and the fact that they removed the “Nope, we will never sell your data”-section from the FAQ really rubs me the wrong way. For now the Privacy notices still state that

“[…] as browsing history, web form data, temporary internet files, and cookies.”

will not leave the device BUT they also include

“unless it says otherwise in this Notice.”

For now I will keep using it, but with every update one has to check if new options with opt out have been added. What also disappoints me is that just recently with Manifest V3, I saw people moving back to Firefox from Chrome.

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Most of our packages are taken over verbatim from the Arch repositories. In other words, if it’s in the Arch repos, it’ll also be in the Manjaro repos, albeit not necessarily in the opposite direction, because we carry packages in our repo that Arch proper does not carry.

palemoon is such a package not carried by Arch. It is built from the PKGBUILD in the AUR by @oberon, and thus, you will find it in the Manjaro extra repository. However, no one has stepped up yet to do the same for librewolf. :man_shrugging:

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